Help. Strange wilting and burning edges of leaves in Bio soil medium.

[GF-Z]

Hello IC members,

Need to ask for a help.
Never thought this can happen in soil with all perfect conditions for growing.
Roughly 6 days ago I took couple of clones from 1 plant 6x (Runtz x A.M.S) and 2x (Original Master Kush x Hindu Kush and Skunk).
Basically what I did is removed all unnecesery branches, which anyway will not do much, only steal energy from main colas.
Also took some main cola's from Runtz x AMS because I want to pot them into bigger container(which Ive did) and run for another month to have solid bushy mature ladies.
All was going okey, nothing special, soil is slow, but safe,
Medium (compost soil + worm castings + perlite + peat moss)
Nutrients: 1ml/l Canna BIO Vega + Biobizz fulvic/humic acids + apple cider vinegar for PH and tiny drop of Espom salts(not with every watering). Nothing mega confusing or overdoing, I keep it simple, until I find leaves are turning yellow..
PH: 6.2-7.2 (Every time let it drift a little, even with bio nutes its kinda pointless, but whatever, want all the best for my ladies).
Temp: 82-86F to 71F~ at night.
Schedule: 19/5
Humidity: D 65% - N 50% (controlled with very fine mist maker next to intake)
Before plants where thrown under some cheap IKEA 20w growlight with 4000k spectrum + 5000k 30w construction led light ))))....
Plants where thriving nicely. Until...
I put them under this 120w LED which pulls 1500 umol from 15inches. I did not know it, tested yesterday, 120w by my logic is nothing ?
Like, really, nothing compare it to 660w overdriven cmh with digital ballast, hydroponics etc etc etc...
Plants suddenly stopped growing, stopped drinking, stopped everything. They got little bit shock from topping, reppoting, but completely shut down after I put them to new lamp. Now I turned 500umol extra led strip with warm white colour which is attached to same LED to "turbo boost" it for couple of hours during peak times (to simulate sunlight in general, that was my idea of experiment). But having plants under low light conditions also not helping a lot.
What went wrong with my ladies ? What my wrecked from arthritis hands made wrong...
Very specific leave edge burning, which I personally see first time...
Kindly appreciate every reply or anything that can save my ladies
Peace!

 

[GF-Z]

Meanwhile taken clones never even wilted, they are having such a good times, like plant with roots )...

 

[GF-Z]

quick update - tired of all this non-sense, way too much wasted money and my last nerves. Everything was brutally sadomized and destroyed. Game over. Bye

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Looks like way too much moisture. Probably ph, etc. sorry yours didn’t work well.

 

[GF-Z]

Yeah, thats true, they were in 1.2 gallon pots, runtz x ams was subtle sativish, roots were terrible, while indica plant on right was hardy af, sturdy, rootbounded (while sativish only decide to start developing root system). Was so inconsistent, indica wasnt drinking too much, sativa was drinking like a junkie(how is that possible without proper root system?). I was tripping hard with this watering nightmare... Probably overdue and they just locked out...
Definately dirt is not for me, I will leave it for house plants and basils, which are thriving in exactly same soil/nutes. Watering them every day, 0 overwatering, they are happy. Very strange for me, so confusing...
Hydro is the future, dirt is for outdoors. Only thing which kept me going was genetics, basically sprouted 2 keepers from different sides.. Eh... Will try some day

 

[Creeperpark]

Yeah, thats true, they were in 1.2 gallon pots, runtz x ams was subtle sativish, roots were terrible, while indica plant on right was hardy af, sturdy, rootbounded (while sativish only decide to start developing root system). Was so inconsistent, indica wasnt drinking too much, sativa was drinking like a junkie(how is that possible without proper root system?). I was tripping hard with this watering nightmare... Probably overdue and they just locked out...
Definately dirt is not for me, I will leave it for house plants and basils, which are thriving in exactly same soil/nutes. Watering them every day, 0 overwatering, they are happy. Very strange for me, so confusing...
Hydro is the future, dirt is for outdoors. Only thing which kept me going was genetics, basically sprouted 2 keepers from different sides.. Eh... Will try some day

Making mistakes when dealing with unknowns or losing plants can be very important to the grower. If he or she learns from the lessons or mistakes they can turn them into gold.

 

[GF-Z]

What I ve learned:
1) Make your own soil medium correctly. Do not trust unknown companies, they put all rubbish into it(at least in my country).
2) Known your plant.
3) RO water
4) Have a lux/ppfd meter.
In general check yourself before you wreck yourself.
Will try another run with clones, hopefully it will be better. Principal to check what's inside Green House Seeds genetics. They spend lots of time making those seeds, must be reviewed.

 

[troutman]

Cloning takes practice. If I get 50% to take I'm happy.
I find clones take easier with less leaves.

 

[Alpha.GanjaGuy]

Hydro is the future,

hydro is far less forgiving than soil..

how long were then in the 1 gallon pots for?

to me they looked hungry, possibly they exhausted what was in the soil for them and needed more food.. also probably moving them from 20w to 5x's the power 120w shocked them, you typically want to increase lighting little by little.. not only will this shock them but will make them start eating more.. also as far as I have ever learned you really want consistent ph, swinging ph from 6.2-7.2 is asking for lockout problems.. lighting 19/5 although not a big deal could have also contributed, most prefer 16/8, darkness is an important part of the plants cycle some plants are more sensitive to this than others..

also it is usually best for your plants to make one change at a time so plants don't get too stressed and if anything happens you can easily backtrack why..

 

[TanzanianMagic]

Medium (compost soil + worm castings + perlite + peat moss)
Nutrients: 1ml/l Canna BIO Vega + Biobizz fulvic/humic acids + apple cider vinegar for PH and tiny drop of Espom salts(not with every watering). Nothing mega confusing or overdoing, I keep it simple, until I find leaves are turning yellow..
PH: 6.2-7.2 (Every time let it drift a little, even with bio nutes its kinda pointless, but whatever, want all the best for my ladies).
Temp: 82-86F to 71F~ at night.
Schedule: 19/5
Humidity: D 65% - N 50% (controlled with very fine mist maker next to intake)

- Simplify your nutrients

I'm getting great results into late flowering using only Canna Bio Vega and a fermentation made from water, honey, bananas and hempseeds.

You don't need to add apple cider vinegar to lower pH, which it only does very temporarily.

- When using anything containing peat, add a tablespoon of magnesium lime per gallon.

This will supply magnesium, calcium, and keep the pH higher, when most nutrients are kind of acidic.

In organic soil, the pH range to aim for is 6.0 to 8.0. If you keep it just above 7.0, you'll be fine.

 

[GF-Z]

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