HELP!!! Powersave 1200?

[d4twamp]

I read somewhere that these kind of products were also suppose to lower the power factor, which would also lower energy bills, right?

 

[yamaha_1fan]

i think it INCREASES the power factor. The higher the power factor, the more efficient.

As said, I have heard this is more useful in motor type applications such as AC's, dishwashers, washing machines, pool pumps etc. I have also heard that most modern day appliances have this technology built in to them with some type of capicator. That helps them get their enery star rating.

My understanding is motors draw more power than they actually use. Its not really about peaks like in car stereo, but storing the unused power

 

[whiskeytango420]

i think it INCREASES the power factor. The higher the power factor, the more efficient.

As said, I have heard this is more useful in motor type applications such as AC's, dishwashers, washing machines, pool pumps etc. I have also heard that most modern day appliances have this technology built in to them with some type of capicator. That helps them get their enery star rating.

My understanding is motors draw more power than they actually use. Its not really about peaks like in car stereo, but storing the unused power

right on the nose! It mainly helps surges and electrical items with motors...
good vibes

 

[d4twamp]

i think it INCREASES the power factor. The higher the power factor, the more efficient.

As said, I have heard this is more useful in motor type applications such as AC's, dishwashers, washing machines, pool pumps etc. I have also heard that most modern day appliances have this technology built in to them with some type of capicator. That helps them get their enery star rating.

My understanding is motors draw more power than they actually use. Its not really about peaks like in car stereo, but storing the unused power

OOoops, did I say lower...lol...Yamaha said what I was thinkin' but failed to spit out....Damn stoners...

 

[Lord Doobie]

I still wonder why gasoline generators aren't used...then you're off the grid completely

 

[Cracky]

I've worked with these devices for the last 20 years. Mostly they are smoke and mirrors. They can save some energy costs on motor driven appliances. They can fuck up and damage same. Small units were given out by a state efficiency program years ago. There are two basic ideas going on in many of the units. Simply stated, by correcting the power factor the load may run more efficiently and or cooler but no substantial savings to the utility customer, more of a value for the utility. An other way is by clipping the voltage sine wave, giving the load only the amount of voltage necessary to operate. This would work best if a motor driven device was not under full load during normal opperation. For example, it can 'clip' or shut off the power for 1.6 ms during the voltage peak. This would reduce the time voltage is going to the load by 10%, and doing so at it's peak value (for 120 volt rms the peak would be 154 volts) could show energy savings even grater than that).

Shov

I see no value of using these things for our lighting.

 

[Cracky]

I read somewhere that these kind of products were also suppose to lower the power factor, which would also lower energy bills, right?

no, not really. In industrial applications the utility companies often access a fee or fine for customers who run power factors below .90 or so. What is happening is that the watt/hour meter can not 'read' true power and as a result the reading is lower than the actual energy used. The lower the p.f. the less the meter reads for a given volts x amps (VA) So the utility wants it's money for that power.

 

[gladysvjubb]

I recomended this device about 2 years ago. I installed it on my breaker box and have saved an average of 10% a month every month since! For me it comes out to about $25 a month. Another advantage to the powersave 1200 is that it also acts as a surge protector for all your sensitive electrical devices. I figure I have saved about $600 so far. It works!