help my seedling is dying on me

[Scottyboycx]

ok so i have a 8 inch ASH seedling that i topped the otherday....now its dying on me. The problem seems to be the stem. From the point where the 1st leaves were the stem is nice fat and healthy... But below the 1st leaves the stem is half the thickness. All my leaves turned crispy and crumpled on but the new growths between stems are still nice.

any help would be great before she dies totally

Thanks

 

[Nicoli]

Does the "half the thickness" area appear to be shrivled and brown on the stem?

 

[Scottyboycx]

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its wierd

 

[Scottyboycx]

ok few ideas from chat

graft the top back to the bottom after cutting the bad bit off......not the best due to fat clumsy fingers

Clone it at the node and hope it takes

paint the thin part and the node with clonex and repot burying the node.

i'm really not sure what to do any advise? really dont want to lose it

 

[billybob911]

does your grow medium have good flowthru?

 

[Duckmang]

If that were mine, I'd re-pot and plant it deeper as it appears to have root growth above the thinning section. Planted deeper it would root out above the thin section and all will be fine.

Not directly related to your problem but I'd also get an opaque container and get that thing into some coco or good potting soil.

 

[Mountaineer]

ok few ideas from chat

graft the top back to the bottom after cutting the bad bit off......not the best due to fat clumsy fingers

Clone it at the node and hope it takes

paint the thin part and the node with clonex and repot burying the node.

i'm really not sure what to do any advise? really dont want to lose it

I don't think I'd try grafting it if it is one you really want to keep.
Not sure the Clonex would help, but I cant see how it could hurt
other then maybe slowing the growth rate, which is probably
going to be slowed anyway.

If that were mine, I'd re-pot and plant it deeper as it appears to have root growth above the thinning section. Planted deeper it would root out above the thin section and all will be fine.

Not directly related to your problem but I'd also get an opaque container and get that thing into some coco or good potting soil.

Duckmang has a good suggestion. It is what I would do.
Like I said, I don't see how the Clonex would hurt anything.

Also what billybob911 suggested, proper flowthru, drainage, in the new pot.

 

[rogerw]

If that were mine, I'd re-pot and plant it deeper as it appears to have root growth above the thinning section. Planted deeper it would root out above the thin section and all will be fine.

Not directly related to your problem but I'd also get an opaque container and get that thing into some coco or good potting soil.

AMEN !! I would do just what he said hands down.

 

[Scottyboycx]

it was in a hempybucket style 2l bottle.....my himalayan gold and my GWS loves them :/

i tried cloning it but after week n half it still didnt have any root nubs so i've re trimmed to higher node re dipped in clonex and put em in organic soil i use for my outdoor veggies.Hopefully they will take but i dont think they will since they been thru alot of shit ^^

 

[ISP_SmokeTrain]

Don't give up hope, if it's still green, it can bounce back. Just go easy on the watering, and get yourself some SuperThrive and Cal-mag. Add both, at the lowest dose, along with a very weak grow nute. Feed only once every 5 days, and if the soil is still moist when you got to feed again, use less (volume). If you keep the ground saturated, the plant will be slower to root. Soil temp is also important, some worm castings topdressed around the plant help, and are not as obvious as black plastic mulch fabric.

 

[White_Widow010]

AMEN !! I would do just what he said hands down.

I most def agree...

I had a similar problem except, my first two leaves at the bottom of my plant turned brown and started to dry up. I just simply re-potted it deeper and also cut off the leaves

 

[flyer]

your mediums looks like popcorn.. lol

 

[icecold]

that def needs to be deeper. im sure it will come back just make sure you arent over watering it.

 

[ISP_SmokeTrain]

Did your plant pull through ?

 

[Scottyboycx]

nah seems my eviroment is too wet or something wouldnt get roots

 

[HempAlchemist]

I've had this happen before. and it looks like we both made the same mistake, let me explain:
U and I both grow in pearlite. I love the stuff but it does have a few issues that need to be addressed.
1) you cant grow in clear containers with pearlite, its too reflective of a medium. what you are doing is promoting algae growth inside the container and it is eating your ferts, mostly N. this is causing a nutrient imbalance and this is what you are seeing in your lower leaves.
2) Unlike what people seem to think, pearlite actually holds a good amount of water for its size however, the top layer seems to dry out fast. this leads people to think that there isnt enough water and are constantly watering there plants. this is fine with just pearlite, but you did what i did at 1st and added vamicullite (sorry cant spell) which holds a lot of water, but really no air. again this is promoting algae growth, but because there is less air in the medium, now all the bad microbs have a chance to get a foothold. this is what looks like is happening, your stem is slowly rotting, as the anarobic microbs slowly eat at it.

now for the fixes:
1) darken those containers
2) reduce the amount of water given
3)flush out containers to remove the imbalanced nutrients
4) the plant with the bad stem must be replanted above that point. this must be done with EXTREME care cause most likely the stem is in worse shape under the soil line and u just cant see it.
5) add a lil superthrive to the feed for the plant with the bad stem. 2 drops per gal is plenty. i hate this stuff but it really does help in this situation cause it will reduce transplant stress and will promote root growth on the good part of the bad stem
6) be patient! that damaged plant will need the better part of a month to get better
hope this helps you good luck

H.A.

 

[Scottyboycx]

well....i have grown many many plant in same conditions only this strain had trouble....i cut it down into clones and placed in plain water (had 100% success upto this plant).It didnt show any root nubs after 3 week so i recloned it into soil but it was too late. The pot is a hempybucket so over water isnt really an option. I'm not saying it isnt my enviroment....it is very wet around my veg room with hempybuckets and plain water cloning but like i say my himalayan gold loves it my GWS loves it and i also have "the blues" in there and an elite cut of original jacks....they are ok i think the ASH just didnt like the wet. Maybe i'll try it again sometime in soil