Help me put up a 14 incher!!!

[MsMileHigh]

Help me put up a 14 incher...No pun intendedMy cheapo fan burned out,and I now I need help installing a 14in max fan/14in phresh filter.I need to know a safe way to hang it,that wont risk it falling from the ceiling.Please help!!!!! Im just in veg,but I have the whole house reeking.Gotta get this ventilation up asap.

 

[MsMileHigh]

Help!!!!!!And Im looking for the safest and easiest method.This 14incher is HUGE!!!!

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Anytime I'm looking to hang something 'very' heavy from the ceiling I use a large piece of half inch plywood and screw it to a few ceiling joists with long screws.

Once that's solid and will hold several hundred pounds of weight... I screw in eye bolts and wire whatever I want to it.

Stay Safe!

edit: 14"?? Might want to go 3/4" plywood? Hehehe dunno.

 

[dansbuds]

4 - 4" eye hooks screwed into the ceiling joists & a couple of good ratchet straps for around the filter & hooked on the hooks . make sure you hit as close as you can to dead center on the joists & screw the hooks in till only the hook is visable for max strength on the hooks . all can be found at lowes or homedot for about 25 to 30$

http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/202183...10051&N=25ecodZ5yc1v&R=202183398#.UUaPG1fgV-w

http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203573...toreId=10051&N=5yc1v&R=203573969#.UUaPYVfgV-w

this set up will work , but its still a safer bet if you can set the filter on the floor or a stand .

 

[messn'n'gommin']

Another way, but a bit more involved:
1) Screw a 2"x4" board to three or four ceiling joists (two screws per joist).

2) Use two hooks, like Dansbud linked to (the hook end can be either flat or pointed) and screw each hooks towards the ends of the 2"x4" board. (Space the hooks apart about 4" shorter than the length of the filter.)

3) Hang a pulley (sized for the rope you use below and rated for the weight of the filter) to each hook.

4) Screw a cleat to the wall stud between the joists. Studs are usually located directly below ceiling joists, but not always! Just make sure not to secure it to just the drywall!

5) Cut two ropes the same length and make a surgeons knot on one end of each rope.

Loop the knot end of each rope around both ends of the filter and run the loose ends of the ropes through the knot's loop. Cinch them down and tie a knot in the loose part as close to the loop as you can (it will serve as a stop for the loop). Then run the rope through the pulleys.

Take up the slack and pull both ropes until you have the filter the height you want and secure them to the cleat. Make sure both the rope and pulleys can carry the weight!

Like I said, it's more involved, but will be relatively easy to raise and lower the filter for servicing/replacement.

 

[MsMileHigh]

Anytime I'm looking to hang something 'very' heavy from the ceiling I use a large piece of half inch plywood and screw it to a few ceiling joists with long screws.

Once that's solid and will hold several hundred pounds of weight... I screw in eye bolts and wire whatever I want to it.

Stay Safe!

edit: 14"?? Might want to go 3/4" plywood? Hehehe dunno.

Thanks for the help!!! Sounds pretty simple and easy,just like I like it!!!

4 - 4" eye hooks screwed into the ceiling joists & a couple of good ratchet straps for around the filter & hooked on the hooks . make sure you hit as close as you can to dead center on the joists & screw the hooks in till only the hook is visable for max strength on the hooks . all can be found at lowes or homedot for about 25 to 30$

http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/202183...10051&N=25ecodZ5yc1v&R=202183398#.UUaPG1fgV-w

http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203573...toreId=10051&N=5yc1v&R=203573969#.UUaPYVfgV-w

this set up will work , but its still a safer bet if you can set the filter on the floor or a stand .

Thanks also,and again very simple and easy.

Another way, but a bit more involved:
1) Screw a 2"x4" board to three or four ceiling joists (two screws per joist).

2) Use two hooks, like Dansbud linked to (the hook end can be either flat or pointed) and screw each hooks towards the ends of the 2"x4" board. (Space the hooks apart about 4" shorter than the length of the filter.)

3) Hang a pulley (sized for the rope you use below and rated for the weight of the filter) to each hook.

4) Screw a cleat to the wall stud between the joists. Studs are usually located directly below ceiling joists, but not always! Just make sure not to secure it to just the drywall!

5) Cut two ropes the same length and make a surgeons knot on one end of each rope.
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Loop the knot end of each rope around both ends of the filter and run the loose ends of the ropes through the knot's loop. Cinch them down and tie a knot in the loose part as close to the loop as you can (it will serve as a stop for the loop). Then run the rope through the pulleys.

Take up the slack and pull both ropes until you have the filter the height you want and secure them to the cleat. Make sure both the rope and pulleys can carry the weight!

Like I said, it's more involved, but will be relatively easy to raise and lower the filter for servicing/replacement.

Dont think Im gonna try this method because like you said it is more involved.And Im only gonna do 1 run in this spot before I move it to a new location.But I might try this at my new spot.

 

[LandscapeEscape]

go with messn's advice. 2x4's will be easier to deal with than plywood and the eyelets will lag into solid wood better than sheeted wood. 14 in fan/scrubber isn't anything to joke about when hanging from a ceiling. i have my 10in/can125 hanging from ceiling joists. Ubolts run up through the ceiling up around each side of the joist and lap over the top then bolted together. now you have a D-ring in your ceiling you can ratchet your filter to. need access to the joists though. drop ceilings and top floors with attic space above.

 

[Floridian]

How heavy is this fan and how much does it vibrate?Hell you could probably get by with toggle bolts and forgo wood supports

 

[mr.shiva]

I use all-thread & rubber bushings drilled out to reduce vibration, works great for hanging large inline fans. Super strut mounted to your ceiling joists makes a good base, add spring nuts, thread your all-thread, attach fan, put rubber bushings on, washer & lock nut. Good to go!

 

[MsMileHigh]

How heavy is this fan and how much does it vibrate?Hell you could probably get by with toggle bolts and forgo wood supports

Its pretty heavy.Not sure how many pounds though.The filter is extremely heavy though.Dont know how me and my friend will be able to lift it up to the ceiling

 

[messn'n'gommin']

If it's just the one run, or even a second, place it on end on a small (but not easily tipped!) table. It won't be the best way, but it will do until you can get to your other spot.

 

[RomulusUSA]

I would absolutely put it on 2x4's screwed into joists. This is how I have my hoods hung. I got lucky and hung my carbon filter on a single joist. I used my stud finder to center the joist, and then used a very small drillbit to drill a series of holes. Sloppy, yes. Damages the ceiling, yes (easy to patch, all things considered). Making sure I am in the dead middle of the joist, priceless. I have 0.00 worries that my filter will fall - but it weighs a good bit less than yours. Just for good measure, I would use 2 2x4's across joists front and rear of the filter. So you are effectively hanging the filter in between two joists.

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That's easier than photoshop The verticals are joists, the horizontals are 2x4's, and you will screw beefy eyehooks into the 2x4's.

 

[MsMileHigh]

Well it looks like its gonna be a change of plans.I will be using a 12in. maxfan instead of the 14in.The room is 13x11.5x8.(1196 cu.ft.).Will be running 2-1k's.(1 bare bulb,1k in the middle of a donut.with a lil fan up under it.The other 1k will be in a magnum 6in.xxxl.)So what size/type of intake should I make for this setup?

 

[MsMileHigh]

If it's just the one run, or even a second, place it on end on a small (but not easily tipped!) table. It won't be the best way, but it will do until you can get to your other spot.

Thats sounds easy!!

I use all-thread & rubber bushings drilled out to reduce vibration, works great for hanging large inline fans. Super strut mounted to your ceiling joists makes a good base, add spring nuts, thread your all-thread, attach fan, put rubber bushings on, washer & lock nut. Good to go!

Thanks for the idea,would this support a very heavy filter too?

I would absolutely put it on 2x4's screwed into joists. This is how I have my hoods hung. I got lucky and hung my carbon filter on a single joist. I used my stud finder to center the joist, and then used a very small drillbit to drill a series of holes. Sloppy, yes. Damages the ceiling, yes (easy to patch, all things considered). Making sure I am in the dead middle of the joist, priceless. I have 0.00 worries that my filter will fall - but it weighs a good bit less than yours. Just for good measure, I would use 2 2x4's across joists front and rear of the filter. So you are effectively hanging the filter in between two joists.

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That's easier than photoshop The verticals are joists, the horizontals are 2x4's, and you will screw beefy eyehooks into the 2x4's.

Seems pretty simple and sturdy!!

 

[mr.shiva]

Super strut holds anything you can attach to it, perfect for big filters, fans, lights, ballasts

 

[the gnome]

make sure you hit as close as you can to dead center on the joists .

a quick tip for the inexperienced
and to build on what DB said.

to find the xact center of the joist,
once located use a small trim nail 2" or more tap the nail in till you feel the just, pull it out and move it over say a 1/4 inch and do it again till it misses the joist. back up an 1/8th" or so and you'll find the edge, then its 3/4" from the edge to the center of the joist.

 

[MsMileHigh]

a quick tip for the inexperienced
and to build on what DB said.

to find the xact center of the joist,
once located use a small trim nail 2" or more tap the nail in till you feel the just, pull it out and move it over say a 1/4 inch and do it again till it misses the joist. back up an 1/8th" or so and you'll find the edge, then its 3/4" from the edge to the center of the joist.

Are any studfinders equiped to find the center of a joist?

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Are any studfinders equiped to find the center of a joist?

Don't know... the damn things go crazy, every time I pick one up.


lol... Just couldn't resist.


I haven't personally seen one... but the nail trick The Gnome posted works great. Very handy when doing construction and re-finishing work.

Stay Safe!

 

[dansbuds]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Are any studfinders equiped to find the center of a joist? [/FONT]

Most stud finders are just metal detectors .... they find a nail or a screw & set off the detector . so yeah if you have one, use it . itwill give you an idea where the stud is .
The knock with yer knuckle on the sheet rock always works for me . you can tell by the sound when you hit a stud & a slight tap of the hammer will pin point it a little better . Then the nail trick .

 

[St3ve]

I personally would NOT use plywood as mentioned. I would definitely use large eye bolts with ratchet straps.

I have almost the same thing going and that is what I use. Can't beat the racket straps to hoist the big filter up.