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Help maximize output of undernourished and underwatered garden, ~150 plants

Understood.

I was broke this year. Will see the following one...

btw. the only reason that I put the epsom salts in the mixing tank instead of spraying is that the weather is pissy.
 
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BAKED_BEANZ

don't be rushing to listen to every tom dick and harry here ....... your shit will be dead in a week .

this is your first crop , you,ll learn as you go along , it takes years of experience and learning growing techniques and strains for your area .
the main problem is you went MIA ( missing in action ) and your plants went un fed . it,ll take couple weeks atleast to bring them back to a nice healthy state .
 
you went MIA ( missing in action )

Yeah... and now I am absolutely done with anything that is not this... I am even moving there :tiphat:

For the price of an analysis which is less than $50 you are going to keep guessing?

What are the key/must elements to test for? And also:

I run in to that a lot in the bush, the soil can vary quite a bit just a few feet over

How do I account for this when selecting a sample?
 
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Another question that I have as I am expecting my nutes to be delivered soon...

One of the things that I learned is fuck cheap dripping irrigation hoses... I was boggled at this chinese shit for a bit before I went MIA and yesterday I finally resolved the issue... This shit barely and I mean BARELY let out any water, I'd be watering for days and days and the spot's far from damp.. or even wet haha!
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So I took a rose thorn, punctured a couple of small holes around all plants :) and today when I went there, I finally saw what I wanted for see all this time..... fucking wet dirt... I haven't been properly watering even when I have been running the system this whole time.... fucking chink shit, I am still angry...

ANYWAY. That said, what is a smart way to mix nutes for a start, considering that the water/mixed nutes is dribbling right at the base of the plant and my tank is 80 liters, so the concentration might be higher than it's supposed to? Should I mix a tankful wait for it to drain and then repeat?

The label says - 0.3kg to 0.5kg per 1000 square meters.
I am growing on 400 square meters. Also culled males... Still the hose drips everywhere, but my holes are bigger, it dribbles. The plants I guess are not as tightly spaced as corn would be for example... (that's just half of the spot)
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And then I am also anxious to fix my mess and can feel the noob urge to dump half a kilo of nutes in the tank :biggrin:

At what strength should I start?
At what increments should I increase the concentration?
How often should I feed, they're already flowering?

Here's the actual label listing directions for other crops (Google translated; says kg/hectare but the original is kg/decare = 1000 sqare meters)

EDIT: I just figured the fertilizer is meant for spraying, so that's what the label dosages are too. Hoping to get some help explaining what's the deal with this particular fertilizer from klint, who should be able to read about it in the original language...


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slownickel

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Interesting chart, the most IMPORTANT element is not included in there....

The element that is most needed in agriculture, in far larger quantities than any other is Calcium (Ca). Your handy dandy chart didn't have it. Chances are your crop has little as well.

So far, nearly everyone on this forum is crying of calcium deficiencies and the ones that are not apply 20 to 80 LBS (pounds) of calcium sulfate per plant, calcium carbonate, bone meal, ground up seashells and all kinds of woowoo juice as well as foliar calcium to try and get enough.

You won't find that recommendation many places, as no one makes any money recommending that to you. There is only a handful on this forum that know to do so.

Without knowing your pH and much about your soil chemistry, it is hard to dial in which source and how much of each.

Seriously dude, you can dial this is and still make a huge difference on your plants and this is the only chance you will have to learn to fix where you are now. It is not rocket science.

And run a second drip line, you need it.
 

gorilla ganja

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Well there's some great advise being handed out. If you ask a hundred people you will get a hundred opinions.

But this is a guerrilla grow right? You will have to accept the fact that you will not be anywhere close to the big monsters the Cali boys can do in their backyard with a lot of care,attention and money spent. At least not on a hundred plus plants your first year in the spot.

IMO keep it simple. There will be time to improve the spot in the off season.
Just give them a light feeding of the basic nutrients for now. With your drip set up it is easy to add more, but hard to take it out.

As far as a samples, if you can afford it take several. If not maybe take a sample from a few spots and mix them to give a general idea of the area.

I agree with slownickel 100%, calcium for the win.

Just keep it simple and improve the spot every year and learn as you go.

Best of luck and may all your Buds be huge.

Peace
 
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slownickel

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On leaves, against foliar calcium. Minimal response.

On flower, go for it.

In both cases, you missed the boat at the root zone.
 

shawkmon

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please dont ruin your weed with all these nutes that are gonna be in the finnished product, i vote for water only , they look fine, my experience is ferts pretty much ruin the weed if its not leached out in the end, ya want your plant all yellow and shit at harvest, thats when ya will notice the dankest weed ya ever grew, just my 2 cents is love it with plenty of water thru the flowering and the final product will be better, just not as much of it. do a test for yoursself, fert some, and dont fert the others and keep seperated so ya can sample the end product , then ya realize what im saying, nnice garden , keep it up ! less is more !
 
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