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*HELP!* Dryer Outlet to Standard Outlet
- Thread starter Thaniel
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Dryer outlets run on 215v. thats about the extent of my usefull info.
Although i know plenty of people would prefer there grow situation to already be 215v ready. Or at least have it in their space as well.
Amps X Volts ='s Watts alowable on a circuit. So when you have a circuit thats 215v (dryer plug) You can run alot of equiptment off of a 215v. But remeber only equipment specifficly designed to run off 215v can be run, i think.
Although i know plenty of people would prefer there grow situation to already be 215v ready. Or at least have it in their space as well.
Amps X Volts ='s Watts alowable on a circuit. So when you have a circuit thats 215v (dryer plug) You can run alot of equiptment off of a 215v. But remeber only equipment specifficly designed to run off 215v can be run, i think.
Thaniel
Member
I'm just not quite sure what to do right now. I really need to find place to run about 1400 watts, fast. One spare outlet is where the washing machine is plugged in, and I'm pretty sure it has it's own circuit, but I do not believe I can pull all 1400 watts from it. If there is a way for me to convert this dryer outlet over to standard outlet for less than $100, I'll do it right away.
Thanks!
Thanks!
If I'm not mistaken dryer outlets are 2 hot lines, 1 Ground and 1 Neutral. Let me get back to you with this one though, havn't hooked up a dryer in a while.
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All you have to do is wire nut off 1 hot line at the outlet and in the panel,and change the 2 pole breaker to a single pole,if you have a black and a red,delete the red
^^^ There you go, SKELETOR is the other electrician I know you could trust. BTW SKELE, thanks for the assist. Also you seen THUNDERBOLTS round here anymore?
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Half the people I knew on OG that used to post pics of their felonius activities are absent from the scene it would seem,and boy did they used to love to jump on me for refusing to post pics of the castle graystone,luckyleaf sure comes to mind lol
mushupork5
Member
the dryer plug will have 3 wires going into it, a black, white, and bare. the black and white wires are both hot (live power). the bare is the ground. a standard plug has 1 hot and 1 ground (in a nutshell). go to home depot, but some plugs, 2 small terminal blocks, 1 bigger terminal block, some solid core wire (i believe 12 gauge, maybe 14).
you need to wire the hot wire to the shorter of the two slots on the standard plug (the right side) and the ground to the longer and the ground plug (use the terminal blocks). wire two plugs to the black wire, and two to the white wire. this will give you 4 plugs to run lights off of.
hopefully this will help out
you need to wire the hot wire to the shorter of the two slots on the standard plug (the right side) and the ground to the longer and the ground plug (use the terminal blocks). wire two plugs to the black wire, and two to the white wire. this will give you 4 plugs to run lights off of.
hopefully this will help out
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.Man if you have never done anything electrical and you're sort of scared,you really need someone with experience or an electrician to do it.I dont feel safe trying to walk you through this
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capegrower
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Its easy once you understand electrical basics. 240v is just 2-120 volt hot lines. In the second pic is the double pole 240v breaker (20amps?), its shows 4 wires, red, black, white, copper
Red and black are both hot 120v, white is neutral and copper is ground. First shut off breaker at second panel, go to where the 4 wire dryer outlet is and remove plug assembly.
Take this 4 wire and stick it inside a square junction box. Install 2 regular old 120v outlets we all use, place them where u want in the room, ok so far?? run a 12 gauge 3 wire(black,white,ground) from the new outlets back to junction box, this is the rough out part. Strip all wires so the can be spliced together at the junction box. The 3 copper(ground) get spliced together, the 3 whites(neutral) get spliced together. Then the red wire gets spliced into the black(hot) going to one of the new outlets. Then you splice the old 240 black(hot) to the black(hot) wire of the other outlet. You now have 2 20 amp 120 lines to your grow room, at 80% you can run up to 4 1000 watts lights from these 2 circuits. You can also add additional outlets at the end of each new outlet...btw if your waiting for me to tell you how to attach the wires to the new outlet...I wont... if you dont know how then stick to flashlights...
Red and black are both hot 120v, white is neutral and copper is ground. First shut off breaker at second panel, go to where the 4 wire dryer outlet is and remove plug assembly.
Take this 4 wire and stick it inside a square junction box. Install 2 regular old 120v outlets we all use, place them where u want in the room, ok so far?? run a 12 gauge 3 wire(black,white,ground) from the new outlets back to junction box, this is the rough out part. Strip all wires so the can be spliced together at the junction box. The 3 copper(ground) get spliced together, the 3 whites(neutral) get spliced together. Then the red wire gets spliced into the black(hot) going to one of the new outlets. Then you splice the old 240 black(hot) to the black(hot) wire of the other outlet. You now have 2 20 amp 120 lines to your grow room, at 80% you can run up to 4 1000 watts lights from these 2 circuits. You can also add additional outlets at the end of each new outlet...btw if your waiting for me to tell you how to attach the wires to the new outlet...I wont... if you dont know how then stick to flashlights...
capegrower
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ps dont look at mushuporks horrible diagram...he will get you electricuted
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Capegrower are you planning on leaving those 120V circuits on a 2 pole breaker or using 2 seperate single pole 20s?Also,how do you plan on feeding both outlets if you only bring a 12/2 w/ground(black white ground not 12/3) which is what you really need,black white red and ground.Only current carring conductors(hot and neutral)are counted when doing 12/2 12/3 12/4 romex bx or MC.You have a lot of flaws bro lets just let this guy get some help on his end
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capegrower
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Id leave the breaker in place, no reason to replace it. I also wrote to use 12 gauge 3 wire...12/2 Each new outlet will have its own 12/2 wire and will share the ground and neutral back to the subpanel. Each pole of the double breaker is connected at the back of the panel to seperate 120v lines. I tried to explain it simply so he'd understand it easily. You use the existing 10/3 wire running out of the subpanel and at the 240v exisiting plug is where you add the junction box. Dont touch the subpanel except to turn it off. all the work happens at the end of the exisiting 240v wire...get it now?? Pull the 4 wires into the new junction box...black(hot 120v), red(hot 120v), white(neutral), copper(ground)... the subpanel appears to be metal and the ground is wired to the box... when using plastic junction boxes the ground must be pigtailed and passed to the new outlets. At the outlets ground to the green screw... hes using common ground, common neutral, hot red, hot black
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So if 1 circuit overloads it trips the breaker and you lose both circuits?I'll back off now and let this man do what he's going to do.After rereading you did say pull a 12/3 from each outlet,sort of hehe,just another reason trying to "walk"someone through this is harder than it seems.People can interprit things differently
capegrower
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my bad skeletor....12/2 verus 12/3 .... smile... lost in translation is what happens when I try and simplify too much
capegrower
New member
your right about the breaker tripping out if you overload 1 circuit...the other option is to have a newbie play at a hot panel... I figured keeping him alive is a bit more important than the convience of 2 breakers....
I myself always use single pole breakers for each circuit like you reccommend... however, to be able to throw 1 switch and completely shut down the grow room has its plusses...
I myself always use single pole breakers for each circuit like you reccommend... however, to be able to throw 1 switch and completely shut down the grow room has its plusses...
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No problem bro,you really do want to use two single pole breakers also besides it being against code,you dont want to lose both circuits if one trips.Actually this man said the secret word to me awhile back whenever anyone says they're "scared" and without experience,its time for me to bow out lol
capegrower
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ive never seen a ganja grow room meeting code... no such thing. i myself would change out the breakers and run 2 completely new 12/2 lines back to the growroom and even install gfi's if I had the money... I also use a circuit tester (12$) on each outlet to test for proper installation of wiring. Its worth the investment
