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Hazy History; of Surfers & The Brotherhood of Eternal Love

SmellyFlorist

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Cool, I was just teasing...

Not trying to dangle carrots, it is simply out of respect that I talk around certain things opposed to pointing them out directly.


The differences are very real the gravity of which can be quite subjective so these kind of talks tend to be difficult at best.

Have I heard the elders say you can read the intent of the hearts and minds who make and distribute such a thing? Perhaps.


Have I heard that "THIS" was meant to heal the nations? Yes.


Is everything really "THIS"? Not necessarily



:plant grow:

probably on the same page...
 

SmellyFlorist

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The differences are very real the gravity of which can be quite subjective so these kind of talks tend to be difficult at best.

personally, onset, duration and peak... noticeable. Scene and setting withstanding, there seems to be a different "head set" if you will... more clarity, less head fuck, different visual feel... harder hitting, cutting epiphanies... but testing leads to tolerance...
Its been pointed out, and I kinda agree, about "cultural atmosphere"... its like: "well the consumption is working, things are clicking... so why isnt everyone else seeing the writing..." like you say "difficult"... maybe its best put like this: "no more acid around these kooks..."
 

Weird

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personally, onset, duration and peak... noticeable. Scene and setting withstanding, there seems to be a different "head set" if you will... more clarity, less head fuck, different visual feel... harder hitting, cutting epiphanies... but testing leads to tolerance...
Its been pointed out, and I kinda agree, about "cultural atmosphere"... its like: "well the consumption is working, things are clicking... so why isnt everyone else seeing the writing..." like you say "difficult"... maybe its best put like this: "no more acid around these kooks..."

Naa its more nuanced than that

Having eaten acid thousands of times over this lifetime of various types I can say the following holds up to inspection (although it is dated the same dynamics perpetuate today)

https://erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_writings1.shtml

trying to have a reasonable discussion is another story
 

window

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The Erowid link is a good article but totally disagree with the very last sentence, they got it wrong with the ALD-52 bit, so I’ll take with a pinch of salt.
Anyway back to the hazy history of the brotherhood, an article about one of the original brother’s, Brennie Smith.
Think I remember SamS saying his buddy in Boel spent some time in a Lebanese prison after trying to smuggle hash out of the country, could be the same guy mentioned in this article??



https://www.ocweekly.com/news-dista...h-the-brotherhoods-brenice-lee-smith-6403600/

Also talks about when the Brit band the Moody Blues visited the ranch at Idylwild, maybe dropping some sunshine?? They returned to the U.K. to release their album ‘ Seaching for the lost chord ‘ which included the single ‘ Legend of a mind ‘, the lyrics about Leary.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r_TbovyVOzs
 

window

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From the album

picture.php
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
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fwiu the moody blues used lsd on one or two occasions and that is it.

Not that it didn't serve them well but there is acid culture in every corner of the world most of it is simply sublime.

Also I am of the mindset that if one puts out the right vibe the spirit of the brotherhood will find them.
 

mexweed

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the main difference I've noticed is there's the stuff that is psychologically profound, and then there's the stuff that seems to have an almost empty headspace the stuff that seems to dumb down cactus when done together, the real deal feels like there are aliens beaming information into you and you are absorbing it in a manner that is beyond human, extraterrestrial telepathy of some sort
 

Weird

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the main difference I've noticed is there's the stuff that is psychologically profound, and then there's the stuff that seems to have an almost empty headspace the stuff that seems to dumb down cactus when done together, the real deal feels like there are aliens beaming information into you and you are absorbing it in a manner that is beyond human, extraterrestrial telepathy of some sort


pharmaceutical purity or higher (sands shulgin derived product tested higher)

that is the quality dass and leary where taking

anything less is a sin
 

Sunshineinabag

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STP was a massive overdose of DOM, too. Already plenty long lasting, that just made it worse....

Memorable blotter for me was the blue unicorn (first experience) and ant-acid. The latter was an ant per hit, and sheets were too cheap not to stock up on (~$.50 per dose in early ‘90’s).

Speaking of Shulgin’s work (see PIHKAL for more on DOM, too), will never forget floating through my last dead show thanks to the phenomenal 2-CB. That’s the one I really miss....

4 way windowpane at the Montreal forum .
..iron maiden piece of mind tour:woohoo:
 

flylowgethigh

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Unfortunately, we may not see any good acid for a while. Anybody heard of Leonard Pickard?

They have him doing two life sentences for making acid. Didn't even catch him doing it, but they had a snitch.

https://www.bluelight.org/xf/threads/the-acid-king-leonard-pickard.509102/

https://therooster.com/blog/the-acid-king-leonard-pickard-in-his-own-words

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7qliVpGEk0

For the rest of your life... bastards.

https://www.theculture.net/friezed.html

http://www.freeleonardpickard.org/
 
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Weird

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tbh with the advent of the internet age psychedelic entheogens are not going away

I think the real danger these days is the confidence that new analogs can be used to a benefit without the same evolutionary interactive process

without it there are consequences that can oft times outweigh the benefits
 

flylowgethigh

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The DEA will forever be nixon's legacy. I wish they were disbanded, as they are part and parcel of the real drug problem - opoids, fentynyl, and synthetic anything.
 

bigtacofarmer

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"In April 1970, Slick received an invitation to attend a tea party at the White House being thrown by the president’s daughter Tricia. Slick had 600 micrograms of LSD powder tucked under her fingernail, her plan was to gesture over Nixon’s tea cup during conversation."

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Right around 600ug it is a perfect dose. Unless riding a bike..... then 200 or so is plenty.
 
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