Haze talk
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CannaT
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Lemon Pine cream that you can find in C5 yes....and Amnesia core and SLH....but this is way different.....still you havent grow it...just smoked some cuts which was who knows what,but shure its not sensi's JH....
''First let me talk about C5. My last grow with her was a hydro set up, and as I said earlier she performed well, very nice yield, but despite the 3 months of flowering, I think she could had been a little longer, I cut the fertilizer a bit early, and the flowers were a bit airy. Even the taste could had been improve. It’s real hard for me to talk about potency, I’m a big smoker, so I won’t speak too much about that. No trich on the leaves, or only a few on the tiny ones attached to the buds. Taste is piney, citrus, but again, it’s hard to describe taste. Old school for sure.''
''A5 has a less branchy architecture, and tends to grow more « one bud style». Buds are more compact, densier, more trich on the leaves, and quicker to finish, 90 days seemed fine for her. The smoke is more « savage », very hard to talk about taste, more potent than C5 most definitely. « Darker » in color but also in taste (imo, some weeds are fruity, other hashy, piney, citrus etc.... but I would define this one as « dark », maybe « sour » but not in the Sour Diesel way, maybe a bit leathery but not in the same way the third cut I have).''
And Jack terps are much more close to this description,than description to C5 haze......
https://mrnice.nl/forum/threads/a5-c5-5c122-another-thread-story.16884/ this is my source of qotes I posted...
So Jack is 100% A haze progeny...no mather what cut you smoked....grow some seeds and compare it to Mr.Nice SSH.....its not comparable at all.....
Even one breeder form this forum had find pheno in Jack that smell and taste like A5....so Ojd you are wrong....Jack has nothing to do with haze C.....Shanti hazes yes,but Sensi's are A haze dom.
When Nevile say they lost it before commercial production he mean that he and Shanti loosed it....When I see progeny from Jack in 2022 it is shure alive and kicking.
Petrochemical
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How about over the last sixty years or how long they been documented we see how the haze cultivar has changed I don't even know what I'm looking at half the time, I get confused by seeing the various different types of flowers these Hazes plants could throw out I'm new
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Here’s a pure original haze (MadMacs S1) in early flower to get an idea of structure
Petrochemical
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Ok u got my attention now. Very well done. I love those pencil fans. If I'm Fair the only real Hayes that ever came through our area that I ever had the chance of really enjoying was a super silver. Unfortunately the Harvest was so small I only got a gram of it and of course it was so good that I like drooled after I smoked it be one of the few times where I've taken my lips off the pipe and was like salivating because it tasted so good
Very wild plant, looks similar to the 21+ weeker Ohaze I found, good job keeping her this healthy! How is the smoke?
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Tom Hill Haze #16 (my old THH mother) x Golli Haze (pollen from MadMac)
This pheno is balance between THH and Golli Haze genes, and it was one of my favorite hazes to smoke. Great vibes, strong and long lasting high, also has very sour smell with little green thai mango in the mix. Flowered for just 14 weeks If I remember correctly.
This pheno is balance between THH and Golli Haze genes, and it was one of my favorite hazes to smoke. Great vibes, strong and long lasting high, also has very sour smell with little green thai mango in the mix. Flowered for just 14 weeks If I remember correctly.
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It's a soft wood and spice with some slightly lemon lime hints on it, soft taste not too loud of course. HIgh is 7-8/10 potency for me, have more and it gets stronger of course, good up high, not anxious but can get you pacing and jittery if you have more and don't do anything but overall positive on the mind and head great for being outside in the sun or wiping away stress and negativity.
Sounds very good that type of plant and looks amazing, haze hash plant
@PiffCoastFarms harlem dreams is pretty fire
tastes like metallic piff n Lysol to me
makes the room smell churchy after burning
tastes like metallic piff n Lysol to me
makes the room smell churchy after burning
Looks good TPFTFW, I'm jealous, what's the high like besides 'fire'? 
Petrochemical
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Churchy smells
I nearly retired up there in the land of the fire, but chose the last state that will ever legalize instead. 
haha.Looks good TPFTFW, I'm jealous, what's the high like besides 'fire'?
alert, clear not noidy
hits right between the eyes
smoked some and went and looked at a few houses for sale.
everything I want out of a haze high frankly
Cleaned up the house a little bit
reminds me of my cbh x Big Sur keeper a bit
my girl even commented on the church smells from the smoke not knowing that was a thing.. however she referred to it as a musty patchouli smell
Lets not argue and agree to disagree, because i want to hear all the info from every side.
But 1 thing you guys need to understand and is never talked about is if your from South of Holland then thats a different era Nevil was in , as after the bust Nevil made new selections in Amsterdam and run with those clones until he left Amsterdam .
Even pictures you can clearly see the C dominace in Jack Herer much much more than A Haze side.
Lime/Lemon/Pine/Citrus dom terps were dominant in JH and also some A influence but minimal and the taste smell is dominant on the C side.
Im talking about the Jack herer they would have available at High times Cannabis cups especially and at a few certain shops all year round.
Also the SSH cut from Amsterdam again was more leaning on the C Side of Haze , there is much more A leaning phenos of SSH that ive grown several packs over the years and sampled many in Amsterdam and from others in UK and Europe, but the famous SSH cutting run through Amsterdam for a many years was more leaning to the C side of Haze , again A was detected in there but id say 70% C side and 30% A leaning
The Jack your talking about now is not the exact Jack Herer made by Nevil the first time , you guys must know that ? , cuts get lost by breeders and 99% of them wont tell you they lost the Male or Female , they will just make the strain again with a different pheno ( as close as they have) but you will never make the exact same thing ever again without that exact cutting and Male , especially Male.
I dont need to prove this theory at all , as its clear to see with other seed co's who sell Nevil's old strains and are very different to the old strains and much much harder to find the old school phenos, you can come close if your lucky and if you knew what the old selections were like so you can select for those traits but like I said you will never get it exactly the same without the same exact Female and Male used to make the Original strain.
But the more Haze talk the better , the more info the better, we can agree to disagree and still all tell our sides of the story without arguing or ruining a good Haze thread.
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Wow that Tom Hill Haze x O Haze looks amazing
, nice work to the breeder ( who made it) and yourself for the grow , love the calx formation, looks very special Keep them pics/storys/ any Haze info coming guys/gals , already this is turning into a Haze lovers dream thread
