Hawaiian Snow phenotypes

[Spaventa]

I see on EUSeedfinder that original, regular seeds GHS HS has two phenotypes but no info to distinguish one from the other. Does anyone know from experience what the differences there are between them? Is it terpene profile? I only know the flower time is the same.
I’m not super excited about onion smelling weed, even if Arjan and Franco spun it as “Beautiful caramelised onion aroma”, so I’m hoping one pheno is less onion, maybe more something better?! Fruit?, spice? Assholes? joking but I really not into onion terps.
Theres a NH pheno with it and I was disgusted by it frankly.

 

[Creeperpark]

I see on EUSeedfinder that original, regular seeds GHS HS has two phenotypes but no info to distinguish one from the other. Does anyone know from experience what the differences there are between them? Is it terpene profile? I only know the flower time is the same.
I’m not super excited about onion smelling weed, even if Arjan and Franco spun it as “Beautiful caramelised onion aroma”, so I’m hoping one pheno is less onion, maybe more something better?! Fruit?, spice? Assholes? joking but I really not into onion terps.
Theres a NH pheno with it and I was disgusted by it frankly.

I don't know the difference but when you find out let us know. Post some photos if it's safe. I haven't ever smoked caramelized onion weed. I love to eat raw onions. Right now is onion Season and they are everywhere. Good luck friend.

 

[Spaventa]

The plot thickens…
Read a LOT of sketchy posts about the lineage of HS and it’s murky to say the least. I smell bullshit in every account of what happened with this strain name.
First I learn that Hawaiian anything is really bullshit because Hawaii has no landrace cannabis that ever grew there naturally and the famous weed grown there was variously se Asian, Jamaican, Afghani. South American strains didn’t do well in the humidity.
Then when I look up HS I find old info in numerous places saying that it’s “Hawaiian Haze x O Haze x Neville’s Haze”, that’s its 14-16 weeks, tastes fruity and floral and incense.

Then I see those two retards Arjan and Franco saying it’s “Hawaiian x Laos” and that is 10-11 weeks and smells of caramelised onion!

I suspect and hope this Laos and onions bullshit applies to the later fem HS? I f’kin hope so!

 

[Mimpi Manis]

The plot thickens…
Read a LOT of sketchy posts about the lineage of HS and it’s murky to say the least. I smell bullshit in every account of what happened with this strain name.
First I learn that Hawaiian anything is really bullshit because Hawaii has no landrace cannabis that ever grew there naturally and the famous weed grown there was variously se Asian, Jamaican, Afghani. South American strains didn’t do well in the humidity.
Then when I look up HS I find old info in numerous places saying that it’s “Hawaiian Haze x O Haze x Neville’s Haze”, that’s its 14-16 weeks, tastes fruity and floral and incense.

Then I see those two retards Arjan and Franco saying it’s “Hawaiian x Laos” and that is 10-11 weeks and smells of caramelised onion!

I suspect and hope this Laos and onions bullshit applies to the later fem HS? I f’kin hope so!

Quote: "Then I see those two retards Arjan and Franco saying it’s “Hawaiian x Laos” and that is 10-11 weeks and smells of caramelised onion!"

You know this is bullshit because...?

 

[Spaventa]

Quote: "Then I see those two retards Arjan and Franco saying it’s “Hawaiian x Laos” and that is 10-11 weeks and smells of caramelised onion!"

You know this is bullshit because...?

Because for years Hawaiian Snow, while it was highly acclaimed, had a completely different description, lineage and back story. The cup winning strain isn’t a 10 weeker that smells of onion. Not by any grow or smoke report I’ve read.
As I said, it was described as a 14+ weeker made of Hawaiian, OH and NH that has floral and incense terps. That sounds a lot less like bullshit to me.
Even if Arjan strain hunting in Laos and selecting plants that breed onion terps is the case, even calling it HS is bullshit.

 

[sgka]

Just resurrecting this, I have seen two phenos of this in my grows. One smells like lime sunscreen, the other is like sandalwood. You want the sunscreen one:

And then the sandalwood (this one is a few weeks before harvest, but honestly didn't bulk up much more)

 

[Tranquilidade]

How about this pheno? Take a look at the main stem, especially in the upper area.

 

[Moxa stick]

Ran it once and I swear it didn’t stop stretch until week eight or nine. I found 12-13 weeks to finish under leds...you will need lots of room. Cooked onions pretty well sums up the smell…not my favorite, but the high is very hazy with a somewhat muddier come down.

 

[Tranquilidade]

Ran it once and I swear it didn’t stop stretch until week eight or nine. I found 12-13 weeks to finish under leds...you will need lots of room. Cooked onions pretty well sums up the smell…not my favorite, but the high is very hazy with a somewhat muddier come down.

So far it's more into lime/citric side, no onions at this point.

 

[MAHA KALA]

How about this pheno? Take a look at the main stem, especially in the upper area.

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it is fasciated pheno


you can find such pheno in original haze from Sam Skunkman easily.


fasciation: is a relatively rare condition of abnormal growth in vascular plants in which the apical meristem (growing tip), which normally is concentrated around a single point and produces approximately cylindrical tissue, instead becomes elongated perpendicularly to the direction of growth, thus producing flattened, ribbon-like, crested (or "cristate"), or elaborately contorted tissue.

 

[bloyd]

Just resurrecting this, I have seen two phenos of this in my grows. One smells like lime sunscreen, the other is like sandalwood. You want the sunscreen one:
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And then the sandalwood (this one is a few weeks before harvest, but honestly didn't bulk up much more)
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Nice. Are those from recent release? I've not found anything lime like but those look great.

 

[Tranquilidade]

it is fasciated pheno


you can find such pheno in original haze from Sam Skunkman easily.


fasciation: is a relatively rare condition of abnormal growth in vascular plants in which the apical meristem (growing tip), which normally is concentrated around a single point and produces approximately cylindrical tissue, instead becomes elongated perpendicularly to the direction of growth, thus producing flattened, ribbon-like, crested (or "cristate"), or elaborately contorted tissue.

Curious if it’s from Laos or Hawaiian side. Looks more like Laos influence but I’m not sure.

 

[Zeta Reticuli]

But how it haves so short flowering time?

 

[MAHA KALA]

Curious if it’s from Laos or Hawaiian side. Looks more like Laos influence but I’m not sure.

in my opinion there is no Laos and it is just dutch "hawaiian haze"(same as they have in Abraxas) crossed with some NLhaze or nevilles haze, and fasciated pheno comes from haze genepool, as like I said you can find such pheno in original haze easily.

 

[Tranquilidade]

in my opinion there is no Laos and it is just dutch "hawaiian haze"(same as they have in Abraxas) crossed with some NLhaze or nevilles haze, and fasciated pheno comes from haze genepool, as like I said you can find such pheno in original haze easily.

And I tend to believe in this theory given the GHS reputation also I’ve read many smoke reports and a lot of people reported hazy flavor profiles. But setting things a side, the plant is indeed very interesting and different. Will post more pictures as she ages.

 

[limegreenlimey]

Setting aside GHs reputation, deserved or not, Hawaiian Snow is the likely best weed I ever smoked in Amsterdam, perhaps the best non-landrace weed I have bought anywhere. Anyone who has a good pheno of this to grow is very lucky.

 

[Tranquilidade]

Setting aside GHs reputation, deserved or not, Hawaiian Snow is the likely best weed I ever smoked in Amsterdam, perhaps the best non-landrace weed I have bought anywhere. Anyone who has a good pheno of this to grow is very lucky.

This is why I decided to try and make conclusions myself.

 

[MAHA KALA]

I think that @Moxa stick described it pretty accurately imo. that muddy comedown is typical for all dutch hazes imo. kalimist or A5haze.

 

[mr.brunch]

The ones I had (2007) were listed as Hawaiian x Laos … they grew like vines and had a sweet onion smell (not taste) and needed around 13 weeks… took samples at 10 weeks and it was far to rush-y with eye floaters and high heart rate.
Completely different when totally cooked, and damn strong to the head - no haze detected for me

 

[mexcurandero420]