Edit: Have clarified everything with RC, everything is ok!
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Why not aloud other people to grow Hawaiian Sativa??
Its a special type of snobism to act this way,snobism with narciss traits...
be a man and move those gross ego from self,you will be much more better
person than you are now...
you write good,those is how baby will act.. will send you pack of Pampers if you send
safe addy... hehehehehe
Like i said, not everybody can understand that. You never was a collector of anything? Im sure im not the only person who like to collect things of all kinds stamps, coins etc., are all those people narcissists? And i really never said that i don't allow someone to grow them, only that it was a Gift by a Friend who pleased me to hold them tight. What would you do when a friend pleased you to not give it away, would you ignore his wish?
Lets take the Jamaican Lambs Bread and Charli Garcias Oaxacan 79' for example, these are available for a relatively small cycle of people, only they decide who get them. They only want that nobody makes money with it, and of course they seems to be collectors. The bigger the cycle the bigger the chance someone will try to make money, rename it etc.
Do you really think that all the old strains which now comes back had survived without collectors? I don't think so! So collectors are very important, but they also can drive you crazy.
hey mate u should do what ever u want to do with it.....no god no master.
hope u are still going to do the smoke report
Hey mate.
Yes i'll make a smoke report. Was just a bit sad yesterday.
Please don't think that im a extreme emotional person, but Cannabis is my biggest Hobby and maybe im taking it a bit to serious, it was like a little stick in the heart.
But one thing i can say for sure, it's pretty hard to sleep for me on the Hawaiian Sativa. Im awake since 26 hours.
Like i said, not everybody can understand that. You never was a collector of anything? Im sure im not the only person who like to collect things of all kinds stamps, coins etc., are all those people narcissists? And i really never said that i don't allow someone to grow them, only that it was a Gift by a Friend who pleased me to hold them tight. What would you do when a friend pleased you to not give it away, would you ignore his wish?
Lets take the Jamaican Lambs Bread and Charli Garcias Oaxacan 79' for example, these are available for a relatively small cycle of people, only they decide who get them. They only want that nobody makes money with it, and of course they seems to be collectors. The bigger the cycle the bigger the chance someone will try to make money, rename it etc.
Do you really think that all the old strains which now comes back had survived without collectors? I don't think so! So collectors are very important, but they also can drive you crazy.
i know what it's like.... i don't sleep much man
Its hoarding thing,maybe there is more collectors but cause of this selfish collectors they cant collect this things that this people have...
all in all that is a very sad situation for a plant that need to be for all people... no body reads Genesis 1:29 from this tight collectors..
and they all hate money... ohhh yesss...they are spiritual beings..
but still some have companies that sell seeds.. hypocrisy of highest kind if you ask me.
Usually this kind of people are rare Sativa collectors... its already a stereotip where you can found them,guess this sativas exchange
so much ego that you practicaly stop sharing in proper way...
or they love that people beg them for genetics... then they feel
hole again.
Wished also to say that i liked how you growed her and i understand if your friend asked from you that you dont share
so you respected his wish...
but still dont get what he gets from this move... selfishness
never brings good,its a bad Karma in the end.
Sorry for rant and it wasnt goes in your direction,simply am not
so much for those collectors,think they dont have a right and
dont made proper,hope God will deactivate all seeds that they selfish keep for close circle of friends... LOL
Yes i agree to you, hording is one thing, maybe im one of those horders, i don't know.
But the Problem with collectors is, they wanna give it in the best hands they can find. And it's pretty hard to find people over the internet where you can say " here man, take it and take care of it". In my Friend cycle there is no other grower, so i have to go in the internet to living out this hobby and find trustfull people.
I think the reason why charlie garcia don't release the oaxaca 79 is, that he maybe also promised to someone to not give them out or make money with them? Who knows?
The Friend who gave me the Seeds is a very friendly person and sativa cannaseur, he is growing for decades, and yeah he was trusting me.
Thank you, yes the HS was very nice to grow. Very vigorous, don't need much veg time. And it's very important to let her full ripe, next round i'll give them a bit more time. But you can try it out in a few months by yourself.
I need to sleep a bit, will be on later for the smoke report!
I wanna say thank you to everybody who was following this thread over the last months.
I know many of you were disappointed when i wrote that i can't give out the Hawaiian Seeds in it's pure form, maybe some was hating me for this. But the Friend who gave those Seeds to me really pleased me to hold them tight, maybe i was also a bit egoistic and happy to have something rare what not many had. But who would not be happy to have something rare?
For me it was like having a very rare comic book or a old car, not that i collect comics or cars but the feeling maybe is the same? But than one day someone is flooding the market with a big container of your favorite rare comic book, and you losing that special feeling which collectors feel. I know many people can't understand this and think it's just a plant or something, but for me it was the only rare strain i had.
RC_Colas asked me and the friend who gave the seeds to me a few times if we share some seeds with him cause he wanna spread them far, we said no. But it seems he was able to get them from other sources which never released them till today to the masses. I think he was a bit angry about my Friend and me, and now he is laughing about us, but laughing is healthy right?
Im happy for all the people who are looking for so long for the Hawaiian Sativa, but im also feeling a bit sad that it now losing it's status of a rare strain. Normally the plan was to make a few nice crosses and send them to seedbay, but i don't have the feeling to do it anymore and honestly losing all my motivation for this. You now could do it by your own with those seeds!
This was my last post in this thread, im sorry to make my last post to a cry baby post, but that's what i feel now. You can switch to RC_Colas thread here! Bye
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