Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

[Yamaha FG-840]

What's well established is that you you don't know the law governing the temperatures of gases

names CO2

and names Air by name,

and assigns CO2 the lower Gas Constant,

and assigns Air the higher, meaning

addition of CO2 to ANY volume of air,

lowers it's temperature.

https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/specific-heat-capacity-gases-d_159.html

There it is right there on the chart.

R of Carbon dioxide: 38.86

R of Air: 53.34

Since you didn't even know the name of the law of physics you're talking about

it's completely normal you also didn't know the REAL gas law SPECIFICALLY FORBIDS

addition of CO2 to Air
raising it's temperature.

It is well established that increasing greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide and methane will warm the earth's lower atmosphere (troposphere). It is also well established that present day concentrations of these two greenhouse gases have been measured at higher levels than those observed over the previous hundreds of thousands of years. Furthermore, the concentration rate is increasing. Where is all of this carbon dioxide coming from?

According to Mann & Kump (2009), the IPCC (2007), Ghosh & Brand (2003), Ruddiman (2001), and others:
Carbon in the air is made up of the isotope 12C (99%), the isotope 13C (1%), and 14C (1 per trillion)

Plants prefer to uptake 12C over 13C during photosynthesis. The 13C/12C ratio in plants is 2% lower than the atmospheric 13C/12C ratio.( See: MIETABOLIC FRACTIONATION OF C13 & C12 IN PLANTS

By: RODERIC PARK & SAMUEL EPSTEIN

DIVISION OF GEOLOGICAL SCIENCES, CAL TECH, PASADENA )


Fossil fuels are derived from ancient plants so they have same low 13C/12C ratio.

Therefore, fossil fuel emissions (burning ancient plants) releases more 12C resulting in a DECREASED 13C/12C ratio.
Dissolved ocean carbon has the same 13C/12C ratio as the atmosphere.

Since the Industrial Revolution, 13C/12C has been decreasing -- fossil fuels and land clearance are the primary sources for the extraordinary carbon levels in the atmosphere. Oceans cannot be the source for these emissions.

This proves that the extra carbon in the atmosphere is coming from human activities.

It's how you wound up shilling for a movement telling you the same gases stopping 30% of the energy from reaching the planet

are making more than 100% of the available energy come back out.

When they tell you the wrong temperature of the planet coming up 33 degreees SHORT of the REAL surface temperature.

LoL

 

[Yamaha FG-840]

Let's all guess: "Thim fellurs what sent more than 25 spacecraft to Venus to check your story, don't know what law to use when calculating the temperature of gases.''

No that's your church that told you the wrong temperature of Earth - AND of Venus.

REAL science - that can count - flew over there and checked your bullshit.

"Scientific Findings" after landing 13 craft from the Venera space program alone, regarding your fake story that "Venus is warmer than normal.

"We found some grooves in the rocks."

Venera Space Flight to Venus: Scientific Findings:

"There were many scientific findings about Venus from the data retrieved by the Venera probes.

For example, after analyzing the radar images returned from Venera 15 and 16,

it was concluded that the ridges and grooves on the surface of Venus were the result of tectonic deformations."


What happened to the ground-breaking news about the magical gassiness that makes a cold bath a heater?

Dark Illuminatti and "Big'AwuL," swiped it off Wikipedia?

No. Your leaders are lying fakes and con men who told you the laws of physics are broken one planet over

when they also told you the wrong temperature for our planet, too.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera#Scientific_findings

 

[Yamaha FG-840]

https://i.imgur.com/3xtblWM.png

A graphic displaying the problem with trying to tell the world about the magnificent findings of a

magical gassiness what makes more energy come out,

every time it makes less go in.


The Russians,
The Americans,
& BiG OiL,

working together to hide the trewth, yaW.

 

[1G12]

Good News for A Change

Good News for A Change

Young Activists Can Sue Government Over Climate Change, Supreme Court Says

November 3, 20182:12 PM ET

A group of young people can sue the federal government over its climate change policies, the Supreme Court said Friday. Since it was first filed in 2015, the government has requested several times that Juliana v. United States be dismissed.

"I want to trust that we are truly on track for trial without having further delays," Kelsey Juliana, a 22-year-old plaintiff, said in a statement, "but these defendants are treating this case, our democracy, and the security of mine and future generations like it's a game. I'm tired of playing this game."

The Department of Justice did not respond to NPR's request for comment.

The lawsuit — brought by 21 plaintiffs, many of whom are minors, in U.S. district court in Eugene, Ore. — claims the federal government encouraged the production of oil, gas and other fossil fuels, causing the planet to warm and infringing on several of the plaintiffs' fundamental rights. It lists examples that the government knew the Earth was warming as early as 1965, and it requests a court order for the government to decrease carbon dioxide emissions as well as the creation of a national plan to "restore Earth's energy balance" and "stabilize the climate system."

 

[St. Phatty]

Young Activists Can Sue Government Over Climate Change, Supreme Court Says

November 3, 20182:12 PM ET

A group of young people can sue the federal government over its climate change policies, the Supreme Court said Friday. Since it was first filed in 2015, the government has requested several times that Juliana v. United States be dismissed.

I'll be impressed if the litigants all forego automobile transportation in making their court appearances.

If you look at the amount of energy expended pursuing the lawsuit - if they were serious about climate change, it would all be done using a Skype type court-room.

This lawsuit is not carbon-neutral.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Objection!

Making sense....

Counsel suggests loss of down.

 

[Hermanthegerman]

Maybe an interesting link about heating up the seas.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ocean-shock-warming/

 

[igrowone]

Maybe an interesting link about heating up the seas.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ocean-shock-warming/

this is a very bad thing if it holds up to peer scrutiny
all the warmth that the more extreme forecasts were predicting, well those extreme forecasts look to have been right
only the warming didn't show up much in the air, but did get into the oceans
and if that's the case, that's energy in the system that isn't going away
when it finally does show up in the atmosphere it will probably be dramatic

 

[armedoldhippy]

this is a very bad thing if it holds up to peer scrutiny
all the warmth that the more extreme forecasts were predicting, well those extreme forecasts look to have been right
only the warming didn't show up much in the air, but did get into the oceans
and if that's the case, that's energy in the system that isn't going away
when it finally does show up in the atmosphere it will probably be dramatic

warmer ocean water = worse hurricanes. just what the coastal areas need, huh? higher water levels, worse storms...glad i live in the Appalachians.

 

[St. Phatty]

Looks like we don't really have a shortage of anything

except cooperation skills.

 

[igrowone]

a nice quiet thread for a week, just like the good old days
to wake it - some more data, september's global temperature data
the concise report: 4th warmest september in the record
we're warm, not record warm but warm, every month the globe is warm, relatively speaking of course
September


September 2018 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Anomalies in degrees Celsius

September 2018 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Percentiles
During September 2018, much of the global land and ocean surfaces had warmer- to much-warmer-than-average conditions. The most notable warm temperatures were present across southern South America, Alaska, the southwestern and eastern contiguous U.S., much of Europe, the Middle East, as well as western and eastern Russia, where temperature departures from average were +2.0 (+3.6°F) or higher. Record warm temperatures were present across parts of western Alaska and its surrounding ocean, Far East Russia, the Barents Sea, as well as across parts of the Atlantic Ocean, southern South America, western Indian Ocean, Europe, and the Middle East. Cooler-than-average conditions were present across much of Canada, Mongolia, northern China, and across parts of eastern Indian Ocean, and the northern Atlantic Ocean (south of Greenland) as well as eastern parts of the Atlantic Ocean. The most notable cool temperature departures from average during September were in central and western Canada, where temperatures were 3.0°C (5.4°F) below average or less. Record cold September temperatures were observed in southwestern Canada.
With global records dating back to 1880, the September 2018 global temperature across the world's land and ocean surfaces was 0.78°C (1.40°F) above the 20th century average of 15.0°C (59.0°F)—tying with 2017 as the fourth highest September temperature in the 139-year record. The ten warmest September global land and ocean surface temperatures have occurred since 2003, with the last five years (2014–2018) comprising the five warmest Septembers on record. September 2015 is the record warmest September at +0.93°C (+1.67°F). September 2018 also marks the 42nd consecutive September and the 405th consecutive month with temperatures, at least nominally, above the 20th century average.
The globally-averaged land surface temperature during September 2018 was 1.02°C (1.84°F) above the 20th century average of 12.0°C (53.6°F) and the sixth highest September global land temperature since global records began in 1880. The ten warmest September global land temperatures have occurred since 2005, with 2016 the record warmest September global land temperature at +1.24°C (+2.23°F). The global oceans had a September temperature that ranked as the fourth highest in the 139-year record at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average of 16.2°C (61.1°F). The ten warmest global ocean September temperatures have occurred since 2003, with the last five years (2014–2018) comprising the five warmest Septembers on record.
According to NCEI's Regional Analysis, four of six continents had a September temperature that ranked among the four warmest Septembers on record, with Europe having its warmest September on record at +2.02°C (+3.64°F). This value surpassed the previous record set in 2016 by more than 0.11°C (0.20°F). September 2018 marks the first time since continental records began that Europe had a September temperature departure that was +2.0°C (+3.6°F) or higher. South America had its second warmest September on record at +1.51°C (+2.72°F), falling behind the record set in 2015 by 0.13°C (0.23°F). Africa and Asia had their third and fourth warmest Septembers, respectively. Meanwhile, North America had its smallest September temperature departure from average for September in 10 years (since 2008) at 0.27°C (0.49°F).
Select national information is highlighted below. Please note that different countries report anomalies with respect to different base periods. The information provided here is based directly upon these data:

• Argentina had its highest September temperature at 1.8°C (3.2°F) above average, surpassing the previous record set in 1971 and 2012 by 0.1°C (0.2°F). The city of Buenos Aires also had its highest September temperature on record at 17.4°C (63.3°F). This value is 0.8°C (1.4°F) higher than the previous record set in 2007.
• Warmer-than-average conditions engulfed much of Spain during September 2018, resulting in Spain's warmest September on record with a national mean temperature of 23.0°C (73.4°F) or 2.4°C (4.3°F) above the 1981–2010 average. This value is 0.1°C (0.2°F) above the previous record set in 1987. Spain's national records extend back to 1965.
• The United Kingdom had cooler-than-average conditions during the month, with a national temperature of 12.4°C (54.3°F) or 0.2°C (0.4°F) below average.
• France's September 2018 national temperature was 19.0°C (66.2°F), which is 1.7°C (3.1°F) above the 1981–2010 average. September 2018 marks the sixth consecutive month in which France's national temperature has been above 1.0°C (1.8°F).
• The Kingdom of Bahrain had its second warmest mean September temperature (tied with 1998 and 2015) since national records began in 1902 at 2.1°C (3.8°F) above average. September 2017 is Bahrain's record warm September at 2.2°C (4.0°F). The nation's maximum and minimum temperatures were also the second highest on record at 2.4°C (4.3°F) and 2.8°C (5.0°F) above average, respectively.

 

[White Beard]

I see Disunited is still huffing away...

 

[igrowone]

I see Disunited is still huffing away...

loud voices attract attention
california burning gets attention
not saying it's perfect cause and effect, but it's another data point
the 5 warmest septembers? all in the last 5 years
this shit is real, for those that need to come to terms with that, hurry up - time is not unlimited

 

[kickarse]

lol so we couldn't find any warming in the air, so it must be hiding in the oceans
bloody planet won't do as its told, the computer model said warming

must be some more warming somewhere, maybe under the bed or behind the couch,
back of the fridge gets warm, probably too warm, might be hiding some more of that missing heat



fuck we're all going to fry, unless we freeze first, or maybe drown in a sea of lefty tears

Faster than a speeding bullet
More powerful than a locomotive
Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound
Look in the sky! its a bird, its a plane it

no its a Climate scientist

 

[TychoMonolyth]

You're likely to be hammered with enough extreme weather events to get you to say "uncle". Until then, enjoy.

 

[Ignignokt]

The deniers will likely cry 'why didn't you educate me better' once they can no longer deny....

But it wouldn't matter because wise people learn more from fools than fools learn from wise people.

 

[Smith111]

This might be one of the many reason for the doubt......

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/...s-in-major-study-on-accelerated-ocean-warming

Climate scientist offers stunning response to ‘mistakes’ in major study on accelerated ocean warming




Then a different set of eyes took a look
An independent Britain-based researcher published a lengthy blog post saying he had found a “major problem” with the research, the Post reported.

“So far as I can see, their method vastly underestimates the uncertainty,” Nicholas Lewis told the paper in an interview Tuesday, “as well as biasing up significantly, nearly 30 percent, the central estimate.”

Lewis added to the Post that he tends “to read a large number of papers, and, having a mathematics as well as a physics background, I tend to look at them quite carefully, and see if they make sense. And where they don’t make sense — with this one, it’s fairly obvious it didn’t make sense — I look into them more deeply.”

 

[Smith111]

Or this:

https://www.aei.org/publication/18-...irst-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year/

18 spectacularly wrong predictions made around the time of first Earth Day in 1970, expect more this year

Couple of my favorites:
4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 issue of Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

 

[theJointedOne]

Global warming denial is a bunch of hazybullshit

 

[kickarse]

The deniers will likely cry 'why didn't you educate me better' once they can no longer deny....

But it wouldn't matter because wise people learn more from fools than fools learn from wise people.

Would that be a common core education? or a real one