Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

[Hiddenjems]

The Holocaust, Climate Science and Proof

I’ve been a student of history for a long time and have read quite a bit about Nazi Germany and WWII. In fact right now, having found audible.com I’m listening to an audio book The Comi…

scienceofdoom.com

Having just a basic understanding of math makes you feel like most people are basically illiterate, yet still wanting to chime in at the book club.

“A "non-deterministic equation" refers to a mathematical equation or system where, given the same input values, the outcome can vary depending on the choices made during the calculation, meaning it may produce different results each time it's solved, unlike a deterministic equation which always gives the same output for the same input.”

The equations in the computers is awd for weather modeling are non deterministic.

If you knew the temperature, pressure, humidity, wind direction and speed, and exact gas composition of every cubic centimeter of earths atmosphere, the models would need correction within hours.

The Lorenz equations are some of the first differential equations studied in calculus. They’re in the weather models.


You rarely here a mathematician say we have the tools to make accurate long term weather forecasts.


I’m not saying I know the answer. I’m saying with the current modeling used nobody can make an accurate long term prediction.


If they could accurately predict climate/weather they would be actuaries for farm insurance companies.

 

[arsekick]

Having just a basic understanding of math makes you feel like most people are basically illiterate, yet still wanting to chime in at the book club.

“A "non-deterministic equation" refers to a mathematical equation or system where, given the same input values, the outcome can vary depending on the choices made during the calculation, meaning it may produce different results each time it's solved, unlike a deterministic equation which always gives the same output for the same input.”

The equations in the computers is awd for weather modeling are non deterministic.

If you knew the temperature, pressure, humidity, wind direction and speed, and exact gas composition of every cubic centimeter of earths atmosphere, the models would need correction within hours.

The Lorenz equations are some of the first differential equations studied in calculus. They’re in the weather models.


You rarely here a mathematician say we have the tools to make accurate long term weather forecasts.


I’m not saying I know the answer. I’m saying with the current modeling used nobody can make an accurate long term prediction.


If they could accurately predict climate/weather they would be actuaries for farm insurance companies.

 

[arsekick]

Having just a basic understanding of math makes you feel like most people are basically illiterate, yet still wanting to chime in at the book club.

“A "non-deterministic equation" refers to a mathematical equation or system where, given the same input values, the outcome can vary depending on the choices made during the calculation, meaning it may produce different results each time it's solved, unlike a deterministic equation which always gives the same output for the same input.”

The equations in the computers is awd for weather modeling are non deterministic.

If you knew the temperature, pressure, humidity, wind direction and speed, and exact gas composition of every cubic centimeter of earths atmosphere, the models would need correction within hours.

The Lorenz equations are some of the first differential equations studied in calculus. They’re in the weather models.


You rarely here a mathematician say we have the tools to make accurate long term weather forecasts.


I’m not saying I know the answer. I’m saying with the current modeling used nobody can make an accurate long term prediction.


If they could accurately predict climate/weather they would be actuaries for farm insurance companies.

Righto Brad

If its not the "man made" Co2 causing the current suposed global warming, what is ?

 

[arsekick]

give your home turf its due, baddest assed snakes on earth hang out there
NY does have one bad boy, timber rattler, plenty bad enough though bites are rare

I have rescued a few snakes a few times
I used a box with 1 opening, snakes went for it like their prayers had been answered
mine were harmless, not sure I'd want to try the same trick with a deadly one

I like snakes there's 1000s of acres they can play in around here, once they get around the house they have to die, neither the snake or I are happy about it

 

[Captain Red Eye]

I like snakes there's 1000s of acres they can play in around here, once they get around the house they have to die, neither the snake or I are happy about it

That's not unreasonable.

I feel the same way about racoons and the like. Go be a racoon in the woods, not in my chicken coop please!

 

[igrowone]

well my brethren of all stripes, here's some news for ya
been a mighty warm year, records being set nearly every month
but there's been some extra warm that the climate researchers were unable to account for, 0.2C
seems they may have found it, clouds
actually missing clouds, less in certain latitudes
clearer skies and more energy is absorbed by the earth's surface which is darker
so why fewer clouds? less certain but 1 possibility is ominous
warmer air is evaporating them away, this would be positive feedback that might increase with warming temperatures
which is not currently part of current climate models
there you go deniers, the models may be flawed, they're too low

Rapid surge in global warming mainly due to reduced planetary albedo, researchers suggest

2023 set a number of alarming new records. The global mean temperature also rose to nearly 1.5 degrees Celsius above the preindustrial level, another record.

phys.org

 

[Porky82]

well my brethren of all stripes, here's some news for ya
been a mighty warm year, records being set nearly every month
but there's been some extra warm that the climate researchers were unable to account for, 0.2C
seems they may have found it, clouds
actually missing clouds, less in certain latitudes
clearer skies and more energy is absorbed by the earth's surface which is darker
so why fewer clouds? less certain but 1 possibility is ominous
warmer air is evaporating them away, this would be positive feedback that might increase with warming temperatures
which is not currently part of current climate models
there you go deniers, the models may be flawed, they're too low

Rapid surge in global warming mainly due to reduced planetary albedo, researchers suggest

2023 set a number of alarming new records. The global mean temperature also rose to nearly 1.5 degrees Celsius above the preindustrial level, another record.

phys.org

 

[Porky82]

 

[arsekick]

well my brethren of all stripes, here's some news for ya
been a mighty warm year, records being set nearly every month
but there's been some extra warm that the climate researchers were unable to account for, 0.2C
seems they may have found it, clouds
actually missing clouds, less in certain latitudes
clearer skies and more energy is absorbed by the earth's surface which is darker
so why fewer clouds? less certain but 1 possibility is ominous
warmer air is evaporating them away, this would be positive feedback that might increase with warming temperatures
which is not currently part of current climate models
there you go deniers, the models may be flawed, they're too low

Rapid surge in global warming mainly due to reduced planetary albedo, researchers suggest

2023 set a number of alarming new records. The global mean temperature also rose to nearly 1.5 degrees Celsius above the preindustrial level, another record.

phys.org

"Dr. Goessling from the Alfred Wegener Institute, Helmholtz Center for Polar and Marine Research (AWI), is the main author of the study.

"The 0.2-degree-Celsius 'explanation gap' for 2023 is currently one of the most intensely discussed questions in climate research," says Goessling."


Dr Goessling needs to get a real job instead of being a clown.
Maybe the extra 0.2c is from the sun shining out of climate research scientists arse, its extreamly likely to be the cause

 

[arsekick]

Is it supposed to be funny ?

 

[arsekick]

"The global mean temperature also rose to nearly 1.5 degrees Celsius above the preindustrial level"

When did the preindustrial period end ? 1720-1800, 1760 or 1850-1900 ?

 

[igrowone]

"The global mean temperature also rose to nearly 1.5 degrees Celsius above the preindustrial level"

When did the preindustrial period end ? 1720-1800, 1760 or 1850-1900 ?

1850-1900 is what I see in climate papers

 

[igrowone]

"The global mean temperature also rose to nearly 1.5 degrees Celsius above the preindustrial level"

When did the preindustrial period end ? 1720-1800, 1760 or 1850-1900 ?

What is the IPCC baseline of 1850 to 1900?
This IPCC Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5°C uses the reference period 1850–1900 to represent pre-industrial temperature. This is the earliest period with near-global observations and is the reference period used as an approximation of pre-industrial temperatures in the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report.

 

[arsekick]

1850-1900 is what I see in climate papers

Thought that was the time period they were using, thanks

Google told me this below, and have read pre 1750 mention a few times, suppose it depends what you're reading at the time.

"Pre-industrial society refers to social attributes and forms of political and cultural organization that were prevalent before the advent of the Industrial Revolution, which occurred from 1750 to 1850. Pre-industrial refers to a time before there were machines and tools to help perform tasks en masse."


What Are the 4 Industrial Revolutions?

• First Industrial Revolution: Coal in 1765.
• Second Industrial Revolution: Gas in 1870.
• Third Industrial Revolution: Electronics and Nuclear in 1969.
• Fourth Industrial Revolution: Internet and Renewable Energy in 2000.

 

[arsekick]

Me bloody snakes stil not playing, had it 3/4 in a fish net 3 ft above the water level and the stupid bugger jumped over the side and back in the water FFS

 

[igrowone]

Me bloody snakes stil not playing, had it 3/4 in a fish net 3 ft above the water level and the stupid bugger jumped over the side and back in the water FFS

I do read they are good swimmers, sounds like a tough one

 

[arsekick]

I do read they are good swimmers, sounds like a tough one

They certinatly are, its been a warm few days so the water is fairly warm being so low.

Finally got it out, he was moving pretty quick once it hit the ground, thought a few ays in the water might of slowed it down, wasn't quick enough to escape the long hande spade tho

 

[igrowone]

They certinatly are, its been a warm few days so the water is fairly warm being so low.

Finally got it out, he was moving pretty quick once it hit the ground, thought a few ays in the water might of slowed it down, wasn't quick enough to escape the long hande spade tho

that is some intense shit, glad you managed, this could of had a bad ending

 

[arsekick]

that is some intense shit, glad you managed, this could of had a bad ending

It was a bit stressful, got bitten by a tiger snake about 10 years ago, its not something I'd want again.

Very relieved ATM

 

[armedoldhippy]

once they get around the house they have to die

not in my chicken coop please!

they're there for food and or protective cover. most folks in country have mice/rats around. some keep chickens ... you can't train animals to not look for food where there IS food.