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11 June 2019
Soot, sulfate, dust and the climate — three ways through the fog

How much have aerosol particles slowed warming? Joyce Penner sets out priorities for a coordinated campaign of observations and modelling.



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Greenhouse gases might be the main culprits in the rapid warming of our planet, but particles in the air also play a part. Soot, dust, sulfate and other aerosols can both cool the atmosphere and warm it. Yet, nearly 30 years after the first report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, we still don’t really know how much aerosols influence the climate1,2. These particles remain one of the greatest lingering sources of uncertainty.
Why are they so enigmatic?



First, aerosols are a zoo of tiny particles, with origins ranging from fire smoke to molecules emitted by plants (see ‘Aerosols and climate’).


Second, their climate impacts vary widely. Dark soot absorbs sunlight and warms the air. Sulfur dioxide emitted by burning fossil fuels or by volcanoes forms a haze of sulfuric acid particles that reflects incoming sunlight, lowering global temperatures. Sulfate particles act as nuclei around which water condenses, seeding clouds and increasing their reflectivity.
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Third, the behavior of mixtures of aerosols are hard to predict. Does warming from soot stop clouds from forming around sulfate particles in dirty air? How many absorbing particles lie above the clouds, and intercept both incoming and reflected sunlight?



And fourth, aerosols are fleeting. They linger for just days or weeks in the atmosphere, compared with the hundreds of years that carbon dioxide survives. That means that they don’t build up as quickly as CO2, even when continually pumped into the air. Their distributions also fluctuate in time, both around the world and vertically.


Climate models also disagree on many basic aspects of aerosols and their interactions1. For example, they cannot predict accurately how particles alter the amount and distribution of liquid water in clouds.


Researchers need coordinated action to determine the roles of aerosols on climate and thereby narrow the uncertainties in predictions of warming from greenhouse gases. Advances in the following three areas would beat down these uncertainties within a decade.


Establish key properties. The distributions of aerosols are not being tracked adequately around the world. More field experiments are needed in a variety of locations exposed to different sources to help characterize the sizes, compositions and numbers of aerosol particles. Airborne surveys are effective — the ATom campaign3, which sampled aerosols over the oceans at a variety of latitudes, should be expanded. Satellites can map the thickness of layers of particles over large areas. But they do not distinguish different mixtures and cannot see through clouds. They also sometimes misidentify large aerosol particles, such as sulfates swollen by humidity, as water droplets.



Also poorly understood are the key reactions in the atmosphere that produce or alter aerosols. For example, plants give off terpenes and other volatile organic compounds that oxidize in the air. The products are less volatile than the original components and might then condense and form further aerosols. Fossil-fuel burning might produce organic aerosols, too, but how much is formed by oxidation or by burning remains unknown.


The properties of mixtures of aerosols and thresholds in their behavior need to be determined. For example, how much more sulfate must be added to soot and dust to form water drops? And, how do low-volatility gases generate particles, which grow and mix with other aerosols to reach sizes that can influence cloud droplets?


Filling these data gaps will require yet more field experiments, in both clean air and different sources of dirty air. Lab studies would advance the understanding of reactions.
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An aerosol model shows swirls of sea salt caught in cyclones (blue), carbon particles emitted by fires (red) and desert dust (purple).Credit: NASA Earth Observatory/Joshua Stevens/GEOS/NASA GSFC

Disentangle influences on clouds. The reflectivity, and thus cooling, of clouds depends on their thickness, cover and water content. Aerosols seed clouds, but the degree to which they boost the water content varies with meteorological conditions. For example, more water condenses around particles in clouds buoyed with moist air that has been lofted from the ground by convection or turbulence. Less water condenses in those that are flushed with descending dry air.



Researchers need to disentangle the influences of temperature, wind, moisture and aerosols on clouds. The first step is to identify key conditions under which certain types of clouds form, and then study differences between clouds of similar origin in clean and dirty air. Most of the clouds examined so far have been those over the ocean — trade-wind cumulus and banks of stratocumulus4 clouds reflect a high proportion of the sunlight reaching Earth. But clouds over wider areas of the ocean and low-lying ones over continents should be studied, too.



Similarly lacking is examination of the influences of aerosols on the formation of ice crystals in ‘mixed phase’ clouds, as well as in deep convective and cirrus ones. Aerosols can make these clouds more or less reflective, depending on the conditions. Adding dust, soot or glassy organic particles to air that is already polluted with them can increase the numbers of ice crystals, and thereby cooling. But the opposite is true when large numbers of haze particles, such as sulfates, dominate. Observations of the number and concentrations of ice crystals in clouds formed in clean and dirty air around the world would help to disentangle these effects.


Improve models. Observations have revealed links between the sizes of aerosol particles, the thicknesses of aerosol layers and the concentration of water droplets in clouds. For example, big particles and thick layers produce higher concentrations of water drops, which reflect more sunlight. But these relationships are not reproduced accurately in models5.


Determining why some models describe observations better than others would speed up progress (see ‘Uncertain future’). The models use highly simplified descriptions: particles are typically modeled in three size ranges and with various proportions of chemical components. Alternatively, the formulae used to link aerosol composition, size and number with generation of cloud drops might need to be improved. Treatments of the coverage and thicknesses of clouds is sometimes also inadequate.
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Source: Joyce E. Penner

Models might need to increase in resolution to follow all the micro- and macro-physical processes in more detail. Regional models can be run at much higher resolutions than can global ones. Comparing them with observations should reveal more processes to include, for example, how high-altitude mixing of aerosols from burning biomass in Africa influences clouds off the coast6.


A suite of comparisons between models and observations should be performed, including studies of regions with and without volcanic emissions7 and of pristine and polluted regions under similar meteorological regimes8. Comparisons of calculations of Earth’s energy balance over time9, perhaps delineated by hemisphere or region, and other sorts of observations (such as reflected solar radiation, surface radiation and aerosol characteristics) would also help.


Performing all these tests and expanding monitoring would guide researchers in further directions to improve models and observations. A workshop being run by the AeroCom and AeroSAT consortia in Spain in September will be a good opportunity to advance priorities to narrow aerosol uncertainties in climate models.

Nature 570, 158-159 (2019)
doi: 10.1038/d41586-019-01791-6
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Climate Science 4; The Ice CO2 Record is "Probably Wrong" Too.



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Premiered Jun 11, 2019








This the fourth in my Climate Science series debunking the so-called 'greenhouse effect'. Climate Science 4; The Ice Core Record of CO2 is "Probably Wrong" Too.



Climate Science 1 revealed that our atmosphere is not like a greenhouse; instead it's the exact opposite - it's capable of expansion and convection.


Climate Science 2 explored the science and the climate cycles which the IPCC forgot to mention, and how they are totally controlling all current climate change. We find that there actually is no 'extra' warming that we need to invoke a supposed 'greenhouse effect' from CO2 or other 'greenhouse gases' to fill.


Climate Science 3 looked into the claim that Venus is hot because of the 'greenhouse effect' of carbon dioxide. Climate Science 4 looks into the ice core record for CO2, and critically examines whether it is correct or not.



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Published on Jun 20, 2019



The past week has a seen a major uptick in fake Arctic news from organizations like Fox News and The Washington Post. They have started cherry picking a warm day here and there and extrapolating it out to nonsensical conclusions which fly in the face of science and integrity.
 

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Global Warming, Carbon Dioxide, And The Solar Minimum

by Tyler Durden
Fri, 06/21/2019 - 21:55

Authored by Renee Parsons via Off-Guardian.org,
Since Climate Change (CC) has been a constant of life on Gaia with the evolution of photosynthesis 3.2 billion years ago and has more complexities than this one essay can address; ergo, this article will explore co2’s historic contribution to global warming (GW) as well as explore the relationship of Solar Minimum(SM) to Earth’s climate.
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Even before the UN-initiated Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) formed in 1988, the common assumption was that carbon dioxide was thekey greenhouse gas and that its increases were the driving force solely responsible for rising climate temperatures.
At that time, anthropogenic (human caused) GW was declared to be the existential crisis of our time, that the science was settled and that we, as a civilization, were running out of time.
And yet, in the intervening years, uncertainty remained about GW’s real time impacts which may be rooted in the fact that many of IPCC’sessential climate forecasts of consequence have not materializedas predicted. Even as the staid Economist magazine recently noted:
Over the past fifteen years, air temperatures at the Earth’s surface have been flat while greenhouse gas emissions have continued to soar.”
Before the IPCC formed, NOAA’s Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii registered co2 levelsat under 350 ppm (parts per million) with the explicit warning that if co2 exceeded that number, Mother Earth was in Big Trouble – and there would be no turning back for humanity. Those alarm bells continue today as co2 levels have risen to 414 ppm as temperatures peaked in 1998.
From the outset, the IPCC controlled the debate by limiting its charter
to understanding the scientific basis of risk of human-induced climate change, its potential impacts and options for adaptation and mitigation.”
In other words, before any of the science had been done, the IPCC’s assumption was that man-made activity was responsible and that Nature was not an active participant in a process within its own sphere of interest.
As an interdisciplinary topic of multiple diversity, the IPCC is not an authority on all the disciplines of science within the CC domain.
While there is no dispute among scientists that the Sun and its cyclical output is the true external force driving Earth’s energy and climate system as part of a Sun-centered Universe, the IPCC’s exclusion of the Sun from its consideration can only be seen as a deliberate thwarting of a basic fundamental law of science, a process which assures a free inquiry based on reason and evidence.
It is the Sun which all planets of the solar system orbit around, that has the strongest gravitational pull in the solar system, is the heaviest of all celestial bodies and its sunspots in relation to Earth’s temperatures has been known since Galileo began drawing sunspots in 1613.
Yet the IPCC which touts a ‘scientific view of climate change’would have us believe the Sun is irrelevant and immaterial to the IPCC’s world view and Earth’s climate; hardly a blip on their radar.
In the GW debate, co2 is dismissed as a colorless, odorless pollutant that gets little credit as a critical component for its contribution to life on the planet as photosynthesis does not happen without co2. A constant presence in Earth’s atmosphere since the production of oxygen, all living organisms depend on co2 for its existence.
As a net contributor to agriculture, plants absorb co2 as they release oxygen into the atmosphere that we two- and four-leggeds depend on for sustenance and oxygen as necessities for survival on Earth.
There are scientists who believe that Earth has been in a co2 ‘famine’ while others applaud Earth’s higher co2 levels in the last three decades as a regreening of the planet.
While An Inconvenient Truth (2006) and An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power (2016) stage managed the climate question as a thoroughly politicized ‘settled science’ with former veep Al Gore declaring the drama a ‘moral’ issue, there is no room for any preference that does not depend on a rigorous, skeptical, independent investigation based on evidentiary facts rather than the partisan politics of emotion and subjective opinion.
Given the prevalence of weather in our daily lives, it would seem elementary for engaged citizens and budding paleoclimatologists to understand Earth’s ancient climate history and atmospherein order to gain an informed perspective on Earth’s current and future climate.
As a complicated non-linearsystem, climate is a variable compositionof rhythmic spontaneity with erratic and even chaotic fluctuations making weather predictions near-impossible.
Climate is an average of weather systems over an established long term period while individual weather events indicative of a short term trend are not accurate forecasts of CC. While ice core readings provide information, they do not show causation of GW but only measure the ratio between co2 and rising temperatures. It is up to scientists to interpret the results. And that’s where this narrative takes, like ancient weather and climate patterns, an unpredictable turn.
It might be called an inconvenient truth that ‘skeptic’ scientists have known for the last twenty years that the Vostok ice core samples refute co2’s role as a negative and even question its contribution as the major greenhouse gas.
It is no secret to many climate professionals that water vapor with co2at 3.6%.
Located at the center of the Antarctica ice sheet, the Vostok Research Center is a collaborative effort where Russian and French scientists collected undisturbed ice core data in the 1990s to measure the historic presence of carbon dioxide levels.
The Vostoksamples provided the first irrefutable evidence of Earth’s climate history for 420,000 year including the existence of four previous glacial and interglacial periods.
Those samples ultimately challenged the earlier premise of co2’s predominant role and that carbon dioxide was not the climate culprit once thought. It is fair to add that IPCC related scientists believe Vostok to be ‘outliers’ in the GW debate.
The single most significant revelation of the ice core studies has been that GW could not be solely attributed to co2 since carbon dioxide increases occurred aftertemperature increases and that an extensive ‘lag’ time exists between the two.
Logic and clear thinking demands that cause (co2) precedes the effect (increased temps) is in direct contradiction to the assertion that carbon dioxide has been responsible for pushing higher global temperatures. Just as today’s 414 ppm precedes current temps which remain within the range of normal variability.
Numerouspeer-reviewedstudies confirmed that co2 lags behind temperature increases, originally by as much as 800 years.
That figure was later increased to 8,000 years and by 2017 the lag timebetween co2 and temperature had been identified as 14,000 years. As if a puzzlement from the Quantum world, it is accepted that CO2 and temperatures are correlated as they rise and fall together, yet are separated by a lag time of thousands of years.
What is obscure from public awareness in the GW shuffle is that geologic records have identified CC as a naturally occurring cyclewith glacial periods of 100,000 year intervals that are interrupted by brief, warming interglacial periods lasting 15,000-20,000 years.
Those interglacial periods act as a temperate respite from what is the world’s natural normal Ice Age environment. Within those glacial and interglacial periods are cyclical subsets of global cooling and warming just as today’s interglacial warm period began at the end of the Pleistocene Ice Age about 12,000 years ago. Since climate is not a constant, check these recent examples of Earth’s climate subsets:
200 BC – 600 AD: Roman warming cycle
440 AD – 950 AD: Dark Ages cool cycle
950 AD – 1300 AD: Medieval warming cycle
1300 AD – 1850 AD: Renaissance Little Ice Age
1850 – Present: Modern warming cycle
In addition, climate records have shown that peak co2 temperatures from the past are relative to today’s co2 level without the addition of a fossil fuelcontribution. For instance, just as today’s measurement at 414 ppm contains a ‘base’ co2 level of approximately 300 ppm as recorded in the 19th century, any co2 accumulation over 300 ppm would be considered anthropogenic (man-made) and be portrayed as “historic” or ‘alarmingly high’ and yet remain statistically insignificant compared to historic co2 norms.
During the last 600 million years, only the Carboniferous period and today’s Holocene Epoch each witnessed co2 levels at less than 400 ppm.
During the Early Carboniferous Period, co2 was at 1500 ppm with average temperatures comparable to 20 C; 68 F before diving to 350 ppm during the Mid Carboniferous period with a reduced temperature of 12 C;54F. In other words, current man-made contributions to co2 are less than what has been determined to be significant.
Contrary to the IPCC’s stated goal, NASA recognizes thatAll weather on Earth, from the surface of the planet into space, begins with the Sun” and that weather experienced on Earth’s surface is “influenced by the small changes the Sun undergoes during its solar cycle.”
A Solar Minimum(SM) is a periodic 11 year solar cycle normally manifesting a weak magnetic field with increased radiation and cosmic rays while exhibiting decreased sunspot activity that, in turn, decreases planetary temperatures.
Today’s solar cycle is referred to as the Grand Minimum which, according to NOAA, predicts reductions from the typical 140 – 220 sunspots per solar cycle to 95 – 130 sunspots.
As the Sun is entering “one of the deepest Solar Minima of the Space Age,” a NASA scientist predicted a SM that could ”set a Space Age record for cold” but has recently clarified his statement as it applies only to the Thermosphere.
In October 2018, NOAA predicted “Winter Outlook favors Warmer Temperaturefor much of the US,” as above-normal precipitation and record freezing temperatures were experienced throughout the country.
As of this writing, with the Sun noticeably intense, Earth has experienced 22 consecutive dayswithout sunspots for a 2019 total of 95 spotless days at 59%.
In 2018, 221 days were spotless at 61%. Spaceweather.com monitors sunspot (in)activity.
With the usual IPCC and Non-IPCCsplit, the SM is expected to be at its lowest by 2020 with a peak between 2023 and 2026 as it exhibits counterintuitive erratic weather anomalies including cooler temps due to increased cloud cover, higher temps due to solar sunspot-free brilliance, potential electrical events, heavy rain and flooding and drought, a shorter growing season, impacts on agriculture and food production systems or it may all be a walk in the park with shirt sleeves in January.
While there is clearly an important climate shift occurring even as the role of co2 and human activity as responsible entities remains problematic, the elimination of co2 and its methane sidekick would be exceedingly beneficial for a healthy planet. It is time to allow scientists to be scientists without political agendas or bureaucratic interference as the Sun and Mother Earth continue in their orbit as they have for eons of millennia.
As Earth’s evolutionary climate cycles observe the Universal law of the natural world, the Zero Point Field, which produces an inexhaustible source of ‘free’ energy that Nikola Tesla spoke of, is the means by which inter stellar vehicles travel through time/space. The challenge for ingenious, motivated Earthlings is to harness and extract the ZPF proclaiming a new planetary age of technological innovation with no rapacious industry, no pollution, no shortages, no gas guzzlers and no war.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-21/global-warming-carbon-dioxide-and-solar-minimum
 

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How about the melt in Siberia this year (not just a few days). I guess it's normal for you right?


not normal, but NATURAL! i live in a different climate but i can see what is normal for me may not be for someone else. try harder.

Sunday, June 16, 2019

Thriving Glaciers and Doomed Environmentalists

Posted by Daniel Greenfield 11 Comments
"This August I visited Glacier National Park in Montana," Gianna Kelly, the founder of Climb for Conservation, wrote in the Huffington Post. "I am still stunned to have learned the following fact: by 2020, no glaciers will exist in Glacier National Park."

Kelly, who had worked for the White House Council on Environmental Quality, wrote that back in the first year of the Obama administration. It might stun her more to learn that Obama is out of the White House and that the glaciers of Glacier National Park are still there and waiting to be visited.

Throughout the Obama era, visitors to Glacier National Park were frequently harangued with false claims that the glaciers would all be gone in a decade. These warnings decorated dioramas and trash cans even as the hysterical propaganda become more ridiculous with every passing year.

The snow lay heavy on Logan Pass, when I arrived in July 2017. Visitors stomped through thick snow to reach the Hidden Lake Overlook. The alpine meadows of the Hanging Gardens didn’t live up to their name. Instead of the wildflowers that most visitors expected, there were nearly endless fields of white. Mountain goats, unaware that they were threatened by the supposed rising temperatures that were warming Glacier’s glaciers into extinction, eyed us suspiciously as we tried not to slip on the ice.

Sperry Glacier, a frequent target for environmentalist doommongers, was still there in the distance.

Next year, there was a 30-year snow record at Glacier. Snow removal crews in late April were struggling with drifts of between 10 to 20 feet. East Glacier Park Village measured 284 inches of snow.

Glacier National Park recorded “one of the coldest winters on record” this year. And across Montana, record wind chill temperatures hit 68 below zero in Bozeman and 59 below zero in Helena. In Great Falls, the temperature stayed below freezing for 32 days until the beginning of March.

In time for the 2019 summer season at Glacier National Park, the embarrassing signs claiming that the glaciers won’t be there next year have begun coming down. But the doomsday predictions won’t leave.

The melting glaciers of Glacier have been the subject of countless media stories and at least one book, The Melting World: A Journey Across America’s Vanishing Glaciers, from St. Martin’s Press, which excitingly promised to chronicle the “the first extinction of a mountain ecosystem in what is expected to be a series of such global calamities as humanity faces the prospect of a world without alpine ice.”

Melting World followed Daniel Fagre, who heads the Climate Change in Mountain Ecosystems Project for the United States Geological Survey, and is the figure most associated with the 2020 number.

Fagre had told the book’s author back in 2008 that all the glaciers would be gone in 10 to 12 years.

The USGS global warming expert has been quoted in media outlets every year predicting the death of the glaciers. He is largely responsible for the comparison photos claiming that the glaciers are vanishing, which he traces back to a visit by former Vice President Al Gore during the Clinton administration.

Fagre has a BA in Environmental Science, an MS in Animal Ecology and a PhD in Animal Ecology. In 1990, the Global Change Research Act was passed. The disastrous law created a massive infrastructure of chicken little “experts” tasked with finding evidence that the sky was falling.

In 1991, Fagre was hired to start to "climate change research program" and wrote a proposal to use the glaciers of Glacier to monitor the impact of global warming.

Somewhere along the way, despite no geology degree, he was deemed a glacier expert.

"One of the first things that we did was we went up and looked at Grinnell Glacier," he recalled.

Grinnell Glacier is the environmentalist's special nemesis.

In 2010, he told CNN that Grinnell Glacier was "this little dirty glacier that seems to be obviously falling apart, that has become very tiny and decrepit".

"This one is on its last legs," he insisted.

But Grinnell Glacier refuses to die. Instead it appears to have been growing.

The photos warning that the glaciers are shrinking are the work of Fagre and Lisa McKeon, who has a BA in Zoology. Neither of the two glacier experts, so often quoted in the media, have geology degrees.

But Fagre is the doomsayer most likely to predict the end of all the glaciers in Glacier. That’s why he and the media were outraged that the “area’s top climate scientist” wasn’t able to “share his expertise on global warming’s role in the retreating ice sheets” with Facebook boss Mark Zuckerberg.

Fagre, who, according to one profile, doesn’t like “deskwork”, loves sharing his “expertise”. And that means predicting that the glaciers will be gone in a decade or two or who knows when.

And the government employee is open about his motives. “My role as a scientist is to make sure that everybody understands the pace at which they’re disappearing, and the reasons for that, so that, again, better decisions could be made societally.”

That’s not the role of a scientist. It’s the agenda of an advocate. The signs and photos warning of a glacier apocalypse at Glacier National Park are political advocacy.

"We get a lot of information visually," Fagre said. "And we tend to trust that even more than what we hear.”

That’s sensible enough because listening to Fagre speak can get a little bit confusing. Over the years, his doomsday date for the great glacier apocalypse has continued to fluctuate.

In 1999, he claimed that “all of Glacier's glaciers will be gone in 30 years”.

In a 2004, National Geographic article, he predicted that “within 30 years most if not all of the park's namesake glaciers will disappear”.

By either 2029 or 2034, some or all of the glaciers are set to disappear. Or something.

In 2009, Fagre downgraded a previous claim that all the glaciers would be gone by 2030, down to 2020. That 2020 date was featured in numerous media pieces warning that the glaciers would be gone in a decade. They also popped up in the park signage that is now being taken down in time for 2020.

In an official Glacier video, Fagre claimed in 2010 that, "they’ll melt by about 2020".

In a 2010 NBC News piece, the 2020 claim was cited, but Fagre hedged that some of the largest glaciers might make it to 2030.

The glaciers of Glacier National Park are always disappearing. But they never quite do.

Six years later, Fagre claimed that most of the glaciers would be “small insignificant lumps of ice on the landscape", but these lumps might survive another 10 or 15 years.

Three years after a 2011 chat with Fagre, in which the 2020 figure was cited, the New York Times did yet another piece claiming against that the glaciers are still vanishing.

"What will they call this place once the glaciers are gone?" the 2014 article began. This time it claimed that in 30 years, "there may be none". That postponed the date of glacier doomsday to 2044.

Fagre was quoted as saying, “I think we’re on the cusp of bigger changes.” Five years later, the biggest change is that the 2020 signs are being replaced.

In a 2017 USA Today piece, Fagre warned that the glaciers would be gone in our lifetime.

"Their fate is sealed," he insisted.

Sealed, indeed.

“What is important," Fagre emphasized, "is that it will happen in our lifetime.”

According to his conversation with a PBS reporter, "estimates on when the glaciers will disappear completely vary widely, from 2030 to 2080, depending on winter weather."

2030 to 2080 is quite a range.

“We are going to go toward a virtually glacierless state in the next few decades. Fagre had told Audubon in 2010. “We don’t care whether it is 2033 or 2029 or 2035. It’s just what’s happening.”

Scientists generally care about dates and predictions. The prophets of inevitable doom are cranks.

In a Guardian article in 2017, he claimed that all the glaciers in the country would vanish in the next few decades. “It’s inevitable,” Fagre insisted.

"They will certainly be gone before the end of the century," Fagre told a CBS affiliate in 2017.

"It's not just going to happen in my lifetime,” he had insisted in 2002 "It's going to happen during my career."

Back then, Fagre had been 49-years-old. He’s now approaching retirement age.

The glaciers of Glacier seem likely to outlive the environmentalist who had spent the bulk of his career predicting their doom. And, if the Department of the Interior cleans house, they will outlive his career.


http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2019/06/thriving-glaciers-and-doomed.html
 

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Pope backs carbon pricing to stem global warming and appeals to deniers
by Reuters

Friday, 14 June 2019 18:23 GMT
About our Climate coverage
We focus on the human and development impacts of climate change.

Carbon pricing, via taxes or emissions trading schemes, is used by many governments to make energy consumers pay for the costs of using the fossil fuels that contribute to global warming * Pope Francis tells top energy executives to act now
* Pontiff urges world to heed scientific findings
* Pope says doomsday predictions can no longer be dismissed

(Adds big oil CEOs in attendance, Notre Dame president)


By Philip Pullella


VATICAN CITY, June 14 (Reuters) - Pope Francis said on Friday that carbon pricing is "essential" to stem global warming - his clearest statement yet in support of penalising polluters - and appealed to climate change deniers to listen to science.
In an address to energy executives at the end of a two-day meeting, he also called for "open, transparent, science-based and standardised" reporting of climate risk and a "radical energy transition" away from carbon to save the planet.
Carbon pricing, via taxes or emissions trading schemes, is used by many governments to make energy consumers pay for the costs of using the fossil fuels that contribute to global warming, and to spur investment in low-carbon technology.
The Vatican said attendees of the closed-door meeting at its Academy of Sciences, a follow-up to one a year ago, included the CEOs of Royal Dutch Shell, Eni, BP, Repsol, Conoco Phillips, Chevron, ExxonMobil, and executives of investment funds.
"Collectively, these leaders will influence the planet's future, perhaps more than any in the world," said Father John Jenkins, president of the U.S. University of Notre Dame, which organised the meeting.
A small group of demonstrators gathered outside a Vatican gate. One held a sign reading "Dear Oil CEOs - Think of Your Children".
Francis, who has made many calls for environmental protection and has clashed over climate change with leaders such as U.S. President Donald Trump, said the ecological crisis "threatens the very future of the human family".
"WE HAVE FAILED TO LISTEN"
He criticised those who, like Trump, doubt the science that shows human activity is causing the earth to heat up.
"For too long we have collectively failed to listen to the fruits of scientific analysis, and doomsday predictions can no longer be met with irony or disdain," Francis said. Discussion of climate change and energy transition must be rooted in "the best scientific research available today".
Trump, asked in an interview if he accepted climate science, said last week: "I believe there's a change in weather, and I think it changes both ways."
He has said the United States will withdraw from the Paris accord, a 2016 global agreement to fight climate change.
Francis, who wrote an encyclical - a significant document on Church teaching - in 2015 on protection of the environment, and strongly supports the Paris accord, said time was running out to meet its goals.
"Faced with a climate emergency, we must take action accordingly, in order to avoid perpetrating a brutal act of injustice towards the poor and future generations," he said.
"We do not have the luxury of waiting for others to step forward, or of prioritising short-term economic benefits."
Oil companies have come under growing pressure from investors and activists to meet the Paris goals.
Companies including Royal Dutch Shell, BP and Total have laid out plans to expand their renewable energy business and reduce emissions. Critics say such gestures are minor parts of businesses that overwhelmingly depend on an economy that continues to pollute.
BP Chief Executive Bob Dudley said after the meeting that "the world needs to take urgent action to get us on a more sustainable path and it is critical that everyone plays their part - companies and investors, governments and individuals". (Additional reporting by Ron Bousso in London and Steve Jewkes in Milan; Editing by Catherine Evans, Kevin Liffey, Raissa Kasolowsky and Peter Graff)

https://news.trust.org/item/20190614124558-n22zt


UK-Backed EU Plan to Make Bloc ‘Carbon Neutral’ by 2050 Blocked by Poland and Others
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21 Jun 2019125 2:54
BRUSSELS (AP) – European Union (EU) leaders failed Thursday to back a plan to make the bloc’s economy carbon neutral by 2050 in spite of promises to protesters across the continent to fight harder against climate change.

Ahead of a UN meeting in the fall, the proposal was relegated to a non-binding footnote in the final statement of Thursday’s summit of EU leaders in Brussels.
“For a large majority of Member States, climate neutrality must be achieved by 2050,” the footnote read.
However, for the change in approach to become an official target, all 28 EU countries need to back the change.
The non-decision showed the rift between the western member states and the eastern nations on climate change.
According to French president Emmanuel Macron and several other diplomatic sources, 24 countries including Britain, France and Germany supported the initiative, but were held back by Poland and three other nations which heavily depend on a fossil-fuel economy.
Discussions dragged out and delayed the leaders’ dinner by two hours, Macron said.
“Because we refused to weaken the text,” he said. In the end though, no unanimity could be found.
Environmental group Greenpeace said European leaders blew the chance to agree a deal and called on the EU to organize an emergency meeting before the U.N. summit in New York in September.
“This is a black day for climate protection in Europe,” said Greenpeace spokesman Stefan Krug. “A small number of eastern European countries prevented Europe’s impasse on climate protection from being broken.”
“The climate strikes by tens of thousands of students and the election choices of millions of Europeans for more climate protection were ignored,” he said.
The protests are part of the ‘Fridays for Future’ rallies that have been held regularly across Europe for almost a year and which urge political leaders to act more decisively against global warming.
Krug said that not only did EU members fail to set a concrete target for 2050, he noted that the bloc’s old goal for 2030 remains in place even though it was agreed before the Paris climate accord four years ago.
EU officials said there still was time to swing the eastern nations around.
Macron, who two years ago launched the “One Planet Summit” aimed at speeding up the implementation of the 2015 Paris climate agreement, vowed to continue the fight within the EU and at next week’s G20 summit.
“When you fight, when you move forward, you manage to make the club get bigger and to make progress,” Macron said.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/06/21/uk-backed-eu-plan-make-bloc-carbon-neutral-2050-blocked/


it appears even some in the EU are not interested in reducing their impact and holding to the Paris agreement. how can you take this seriously? victim-hood holds no rewards.
 

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11 June 2019

Should we fertilize oceans or seed clouds? No one knows

Gather scientific evidence on the feasibility and risks of marine geoengineering to guide regulation of research, advise Philip Boyd and Chris Vivian.

Philip Boyd & Chris Vivian

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The climate clock is ticking. To turn it back, the world is putting its faith in ‘negative-emissions technologies’. These would suck carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and lock it up for centuries on the land, in the sea or beneath the sea floor (see ‘Marine geoengineering’). Although such technologies are yet to be developed, they are nonetheless implicit in assessments by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). To limit warming to 1.5 °C compared to pre-industrial levels, as much as 20 billion tonnes (gigatonnes) of CO2 might need to be removed from the atmosphere each year until 21001.


Storing carbon in the oceans sounds promising to some. The oceans are vast, and there could be fewer political trade-offs to deal with than on land. For example, fertilizing the water with iron would speed up the growth of phytoplankton and thus take up CO2, some of which would sink into the deep ocean as carbon when the organisms die. Another proposal is to spray seawater into the air to help form clouds that reflect sunlight and cool the planet.

Techniques such as these would need to be used on a massive scale to cap global warming at safe levels. For example, to mop up CO2 chemically, the entire Pacific Ocean would have to be sprinkled with one billion tonnes of powdered minerals similar to chalk. And these measures might be needed within a decade if emissions cuts fail and pressures mount on policymakers to act.
Little is known about the consequences. Scant research has been carried out for a range of reasons. The controversial nature of geoengineering divides researchers. And some research trials that have been funded have subsequently been abandoned, owing to a lack of rules for performing them and to conflicts of interest, such as patent applications (see Nature https://doi.org/hw2; 2012).



Even basic tests of equipment haven’t been done. Most of the preliminary studies have not been published in peer-reviewed academic journals.



This dearth of information is hampering the development of a global framework for regulating geoengineering research, despite more than a decade of debate. Researchers and policymakers need to know which negative-emissions technologies are worth investigating, and which will never work or are too damaging to pursue. The potential benefits and risks of the technologies need to be established before country leaders or companies decide to implement them prematurely.



As a first step, the United Nations Joint Group of Experts on the Scientific Aspects of Marine Environmental Protection (GESAMP) set up a working group in 2016, which we co-chaired, to look at the potential ecological and social impacts of various marine-geoengineering approaches. Its remit was to advise the International Maritime Organization (IMO) and parties to the 1996 Protocol to the Convention on the Prevention of Marine Pollution by Dumping of Wastes and Other Matter, 1972 (the London Protocol 1996). Our report was released in March 20192.



However, we struggled to identify techniques that are in need of regulation because the evidence trail was so poor. In the end, all we could do was to classify marine geoengineering research as either too insufficient or incomplete to inform a scientific assessment.


Here we call on advocates of geoengineering, from research to commerce, to build a body of basic scientific evidence within the next three years. This would enable policymakers to decide which methods to rule out and which hold potential. Geoengineering knowledge and regulation must advance in parallel.



Patchy progress

The GESAMP working group examined 27 marine geoengineering ideas — from adding reflective foams to the surface of the ocean to burying carbon beneath the sea bed2. Most of the research is in its embryonic stages. Some concepts, such as depositing crop wastes on the sea floor, have progressed little beyond thought experiments. A few have been studied in the lab or modelled on a computer. Fewer than ten pilot studies have been done in the field.
Glaring research gaps abound. For example, the idea of using a fine spray of seawater or other aerosols to thicken or seed clouds above the ocean — similar to the trails created by emissions from ships — has featured widely in the media. No one has reported on any attempt to spray fine droplets of natural seawater (although there have been lab experiments on manufactured salt water3).


But seawater is full of tiny organisms and organic material that could clog a sprayer (as pointed out in the GESAMP report2 by working-group member John Cullen, an oceanographer at Dalhousie University in Halifax, Canada).

A lack of funding is not the main reason for the research gaps. Although there have been few funding programmes targeted at marine-geoengineering experiments and modelling so far, many basic tests are cheap and can be done in the lab — for instance, assessing whether impurities in mineral powders are toxic to marine life. And a range of negative-emissions technologies, such as enhanced weathering of rocks to increase ocean alkalinity, are already being funded in targeted research programmes, including one in the United Kingdom. Other streams of research, such as modelling, are under way in Germany, and a call for research proposals has been made in Japan. Private money is being invested in some marine approaches, such as a proposed pilot study of the impacts of iron fertilization on fisheries off Chile. However, that project has stalled, largely because of a lack of support from scientists (see Nature 545, 393–394; 2017).


Another problem is that many geoengineering proposals and analyses are found on transient websites, not in peer-reviewed journals. For example, only half of the web links to ideas, plans and documents cited in a detailed 2009 synthesis study of marine-geoengineering approaches4 still worked when we examined them in 2018. By contrast, academic and intergovernmental documents from that era are easy to find.



Again, the reasons for this are unclear, but could include inadequate funding, privacy concerns about disclosing details of the methods, and maintenance of proprietary rights over technologies. Some scientists worry that even starting geoengineering research or reporting results could lead to deployment of inadequately studied approaches5.



Yet it is essential that investigations are solidly researched, openly discussed and made readily available, as demonstrated by the most-studied geoengineering approach, ocean iron fertilization. Much of the work drew from ocean biogeochemistry and has involved lab experiments, pilot studies in the Southern Ocean and modelling across ocean basins. All of this activity showed that the method will not work as anticipated6. Fertilizing 1,000 square kilometres of the upper ocean would increase the growth of phytoplankton but could have alarming side effects. For example, sinking algae could release methane, a greenhouse gas that is many times more potent than CO2.



This body of research convinced policymakers to intervene. In 2008, parties to the UN Convention on Biological Diversity agreed voluntarily to stop large-scale iron fertilization experiments from going ahead in the oceans without scientific risk assessments, controls and regulation (see Nature 453, 704; 2008).
In 2013, the London Protocol added legally binding amendments to regulate ocean iron fertilization, but they have yet to enter into force.


No other marine-geoengineering methods have got far enough to prompt similar regulation. Yet techniques such as ocean alkalinization are likely to have large-scale impacts that are similar to those of iron fertilization2.



Models highlight potential problems with other methods: simulations have revealed, for example, that pumping nutrient-rich cold waters to the surface of the Pacific could lower the temperature of overlying air and help to cool the planet, but at the expense of creating a vast low-oxygen zone that would threaten fisheries7.



The way forward

As climate dangers mount, marine geoengineering needs a body of evidence to guide research and regulation. We suggest that the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change or the International Science Council should take the lead by promoting four steps.
First, to build the foundations, researchers must identify and start to fill key knowledge gaps2. Many basic questions can be answered with minimal funding in lab settings and without new legislation. For example, will mineral powders make seawater less transparent or will they enter the food web, as tiny specks of plastic have done? By how much will reflective foams on the surface reduce photosynthesis? How long will the foams last and how will the wind affect their spread?



A shared bank of standard models of the oceans, similar to those used by the IPCC to ensure consensus across climate models, should be developed through initiatives such as the Carbon Dioxide Removal Model Intercomparison Project (see go.nature.com/2wevzhj).



Links should be tightened between ocean modellers and related research communities such as SOLAS (Surface Ocean Lower Atmosphere Study), which in April held a workshop on this topic in Sapporo, Japan. All results must be published in archived journals and repositories. Standards must be developed for reporting details of methods, so that studies can be repeated or compared under a range of conditions.


Second, the potential benefits and drawbacks of each geoengineering method need to be assessed and ranked. Such a portfolio, updated as evidence accrues, should be held by an international organization such as GESAMP. Benefits should include evidence of efficient and permanent removal of CO2 with minimal side effects. Drawbacks might include unanticipated difficulties in scaling up the technology and unintended adverse consequences, such as the enhancement of populations of some toxic phytoplankton species by ocean iron fertilization8.



Third, researchers and policymakers should develop scientific criteria for evaluating risks, and devise a set of tests that experiments must pass before they are permitted. These should encompass the intended and unintended consequences of the work, as well as the propagation of risk as more ambitious research is done — for example, when a pilot study in a lab flask moves gradually to other enclosed environments (such as a large-volume incubator) and then to the open sea. Policymakers will need to decide which methods merit further consideration, and which should be dismissed as impractical or as unacceptably risky.


Fourth, if such tests are passed, research and regulation should proceed in parallel. The London Protocol is a good starting point for governing interventions in the oceans. Researchers and policymakers will need to devise an adaptive framework for gathering, evaluating and responding to evidence for all candidate geoengineering approaches, including marine methods. Governance of research must be informed by a wide range of outcomes. Resources can then be targeted at the most promising areas.


Adaptive forms of governance that center on responsible research and innovation9 have been applied to other emerging technologies, such as synthetic biology and nanotechnology10. A similar approach for geoengineering will enable scientists to put forward a scientifically sound subset of approaches that can be scrutinized through legal, socio-economic and geopolitical lenses over the next few years.

Nature 570, 155-157 (2019)
doi: 10.1038/d41586-019-01790-7

References


  1. 1.Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Summary for Policymakers. In Global Warming of 1.5 °C (IPCC, 2018).
  2. 2.GESAMP Working Group 41. High Level Review of a Wide Range of Proposed Marine Geoengineering Techniques (eds Boyd, P. W. & Vivian, C. M. G.) GESAMP Rep. Stud. No. 98 (International Maritime Organization, 2019).
  3. 3.Cooper, G. et al. Phil. Trans. R. Soc. A 372, 20140055 (2014).
  4. 4.Strong, A. L., Cullen, J. J. & Chisholm, S. W. Oceanography 22, 236–261 (2009).
  5. 5.Schäfer, S. et al. The European Transdisciplinary Assessment of Climate Engineering (EuTRACE): Removing Greenhouse Gases from the Atmosphere and Reflecting Sunlight away from Earth (Institute for Advanced Sustainability Studies Potsdam, 2015).
  6. 6.Boyd, P. W. et al. Science 315, 612–617 (2007).
  7. 7.Keller, D. P., Feng, E. Y. & Oschlies, A. Nature Commun. 5, 3304 (2014).
  8. 8.Silver, M. W. et al. Proc. Natl Acad. Sci. USA 107, 20762–20767 (2010).
  9. 9.Genus, A. & Stirling, A. Res. Policy 47, 61–69 (2018).
  10. 10.Kerr, A., Hill, R. L. & Till, C. Technol. Soc. 52, 24–31 (2018).
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OREGON LOGGERS Hold Massive Protest Against Democrat Party’s Rural Job-Killing Cap-and-Trade Bill (VIDEO)

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by Jim Hoft June 22, 2019 183 Comments

Democrats in Oregon are pushing new cap-and-trade legislation that will crush the rural economy in the Beaver State.

The radical green legislation will put the burden on rural workers in the state.


Republican lawmakers fled the capitol in boycott to deny Democrats a quorum on their job-killing bill.
The law will cost an average family at least $600 per year.


Oregon loggers and truckers held a rally at the state house on Saturday.

#timberunity https://t.co/XIjAgSsGBe
— Liisa (@Ms_A_Sunshine) June 22, 2019
Truckers came to the capitol to protest the legislation.

The rural workers also held a rally on Wednesday.
Here's one of the protests made earlier by the loggers. No violence, no looting, no burned up police cars. Just some pissed off loggers. #timberunity pic.twitter.com/XxdUvi3LaG
— Rob (@muddler007) June 22, 2019

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...s-rural-job-killing-cap-and-trade-bill-video/
.............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdZe99kbaC0

[YOUTUBEIF]FdZe99kbaC0[/YOUTUBEIF]

"Send bachelors, come heavily armed. i'm not about to be a political prisoner in Oregon".
 

igrowone

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It's an Opportunity.

Not sure for exactly what though.

Buying surf properties in the Yukon ?

there you go
winners in every disaster
at the moment my bet would be on the electric car business
who's going to get the money? so tough to call
will be a few big winners though, that's the rule of business
 

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Well, trich, that’s a fine mess of political hit-pieces combined with distorted science...the one about marine geoengineering makes the most sense...but not much of that (it’s true, sometimes scientists try to answer pointless questions).

I found a dozen ‘deliberate mistakes’ in the first one, I guess proving that the person who writes Tyler Durden’s science pieces ought to try telemarketing....

Really, if you can’t be bothered to check these things, why bother to post them?
 

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Well, trich, that’s a fine mess of political hit-pieces combined with distorted science...the one about marine geoengineering makes the most sense...but not much of that (it’s true, sometimes scientists try to answer pointless questions).

I found a dozen ‘deliberate mistakes’ in the first one, I guess proving that the person who writes Tyler Durden’s science pieces ought to try telemarketing....

Really, if you can’t be bothered to check these things, why bother to post them?


quote them then, show us your prowess.
 

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Sign Of The Times? Weather Patterns All Over The Planet Are Going Absolutely Nuts

June 24, 2019 by Michael Snyder
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We have never seen global weather patterns go as crazy as they have so far in 2019. Record high temperatures are being shattered all over the planet, but meanwhile some parts of the U.S. were just buried by massive amounts of snow. The sixth largest city in India is literally running out of water due to extremely dry conditions, but in middle America it just won’t stop raining. In fact, the Midwest is getting hammered by more severe storms as I write this article. Meanwhile, Australia is being forced to import enormous amounts of wheat due to the extraordinary drought that nation is currently experiencing. Everywhere you look around the globe we see bizarre weather extremes. Worldwide weather patterns are shifting dramatically, and many believe that what we have witnessed so far is just the beginning.
Do you have an explanation for what is going on? Because the truth is that most of the experts don’t.
Just look at what is happening in Colorado. Some parts of the state got up to 20 inches of snow on Saturday, and as a result Colorado’s snowpack is currently more than 4,000 percent above normal
Due to the new snow Friday into the weekend, the Natural Resources Conservation Service reported that the state’s snowpack ballooned to 4,121 percent above normal as of Monday. This number is so high because ordinarily very little snow is left by late June, and cold temperatures late into the spring helped preserve what fell earlier.
After the weekend blanket of white, the scenes in the high country west of Denver resembled midwinter. Enough snow fell to close roads, while many ski areas reported accumulation, including Breckenridge, Vail, Beaver Creek, Arapahoe Basin and Steamboat Springs.
On the other side of the world, the problem is that there isn’t any meaningful precipitation at all.
More than 4.6 million people live in the city of Chennai, India. Thanks to a drought that never seems to end, the main reservoirs that normally supply that city with water are rapidly going dry
The floor of the Chembarambakkam reservoir is cracked open, dry and sun-baked. About 25 kilometers (15.5 miles) away, in Chennai, India’s sixth largest city, millions of people are running out of water.
Chembarambakkam and the three other reservoirs that have traditionally supplied Chennai are nearly all dry, leaving the city suffering from an acute water shortage, said Jayaram Venkatesan, an activist in the city.
So what do you do when you have millions of people that need water but you don’t have any to give them?
Well, the temporary solution that has been implemented for now is to truck water in. That means that “hundreds of thousands of residents” are forced to stand in line for hours in the hot sun as they wait for the water trucks to arrive. The following comes from CNN
With the reservoirs dry, water is being brought directly into Chennai neighborhoods in trucks. Every day, hundreds of thousands of residents have no choice but to stand in line for hours in soaring summer temperatures, filling dozens of cans and plastic containers.
Over in Europe, it looks like this could be the hottest week ever for the month of June.
In the next few days, high temperatures are expected to exceed 40 degrees Celsius (104 degrees Fahrenheit) in Spain, and that prompted one meteorologist to warn that “hell is coming”
Meteorologists said temperatures would reach or even exceed 40C from Spain to Switzerland as hot air was sucked up from the Sahara by the combination of a storm stalling over the Atlantic and high pressure over central Europe.
High humidity meant it would feel like 47C, experts warned. “El infierno [hell] is coming,” tweeted the TV meteorologist Silvia Laplana in Spain, where the AEMET weather service forecast temperatures of 42C by Thursday in the Ebro, Tagus, Guadiana and Guadalquivir valleys and warned of an “extreme risk” of forest fires.
In 2003, a terrible heatwave killed tens of thousands of people all across Europe, and many expect this heatwave to be even worse.
And things will be extraordinarily hot in France as well. In fact, some parts of France are expected to hit 109 degress Fahrenheit by the end of this week…
High temperatures are expected to skyrocket above above 40 degrees Celsius (104 degrees Fahrenheit) on Wednesday for a huge portion of France, including Paris. The forecast for Carpentras, a town of 28,000 about 50 miles north of Marseilles, is even worse. There, temperatures are expected to reach 43 degrees Celsius (109 degrees Fahrenheit) on Friday and Saturday. That would easily cap the monthly high temperature record for France of 41.5 degrees Celsius (107 degrees Fahrenheit) set in June 2003, according to Reuters.
Temperatures are likely to climb above 40 degrees Fahrenheit in parts of Spain and approach that in Germany, Switzerland, and Belgium. Overnight temperatures will stay balmy, which poses particularly acute health risks to children and the elderly.
Needless to say, none of this is normal.
Here in the United States, we have been witnessing month after month of extremely unusual weather in the middle of the country. The rain has been endless and the flooding has been unprecedented, and those living in the heartland keep thinking that all of this weird weather has got to end eventually at some point.
But it hasn’t.
In fact, more severe weather is rolling through middle America as I write this article
More than 50 million people are bracing for severe weather from the Plains to the Southeast as scattered thunderstorms prompt flash flood alerts, possible tornadoes and hail.
A large weather system is expected to bring damaging wind gusts and large hail for parts of the South and into the Appalachians, Ohio Valley and Great Lakes.
Heavy rain and flash flooding inundated parts of southwest Missouri during the weekend, prompting water rescues and evacuations.
For much more on the immense devastation that all of this wet weather is causing for U.S. farmers, please see my previous article entitled “Shocking Before And After Photos Reveal The Truth About The Widespread Crop Failures The U.S. Is Facing In 2019”.
Will global weather patterns ever return to normal, or is this “the new normal”?
Let us certainly hope for a return to normalcy, because if weather patterns continue to go absolutely haywire that is going to have enormous implications for all of us.
Accurate picture of how the spring of 2019 has been so far. (Yes, that is a turtle swimming in the corn) pic.twitter.com/LUAoDbnY03
— Peter Bergkamp (@pbergkamp791) June 23, 2019
 

White Beard

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quote them then, show us your prowess.

Not your science teacher - read it yourself, you posted it. I call them deliberate mistakes because it’s not trying to inform, but to inflame (works on you, it seems), and it glosses over and conflates, and thereby misleads.

Now, if you’re asking me to *teach* you climate science, paleogeology, glacial cycles, reading skills and critical analysis, that’s...5000US$, paid quarterly in advance.
 

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remember the Python's Black Knight? the values of days of old
you didn't back down, never! you back down and you lose honor
and you're left with the image of a legless, armless Black Knight shouting insults
technically he didn't lose, it was reason and common sense that became the casualties
 

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