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[Microbeman]

Man I just grow. I do what comes naturally to me using what the land provides. It’s really pretty simple until people have to be people doing people things over analyzing and making it complicated. You know all this.

Lots of sun… adequate water and some composted medium….some grace from the weather and everything should grow fine!

Indoors is pretty easy if you follow basic guidelines. Gets boring after a while….controlled environments and all.

Yup- I'm there. That's all there is to it. I've even advocated growing indoors as one does outdoors.

 

[Jericho Mile]

Yup- I'm there. That's all there is to it. I've even advocated growing indoors as one does outdoors.

Indoors is great for breeding plants. You can get through a couple generations in a year. Nice also for maintaining clones or getting an early start on outdoor stuff.

I don’t think I’ll ever get back heavy into indoor gardening though. I binged on it for about 12 years straight 24/7 around the calendar. I’m over it. My dedication is best spent on other things.

Outdoors is hands down my favorite discipline growing herb. Can’t replicate that sun and the elements.

 

[Microbeman]

Indoors is great for breeding plants. You can get through a couple generations in a year. Nice also for maintaining clones or getting an early start on outdoor stuff.

I don’t think I’ll ever get back heavy into indoor gardening though. I binged on it for about 12 years straight 24/7 around the calendar. I’m over it. My dedication is best spent on other things.

Outdoors is hands down my favorite discipline growing herb. Can’t replicate that sun and the elements.

I'm spoiled now with year round outdoors. I still root cuttings and start seeds I need to sex indoors but everything else is outside,

 

[Captain Red Eye]

never was serious about learning how to grow until literally last year when i wasted prolly a hundred dollars worth of seeds.

Sorry to hear about that. it can suck to spend money on seeds and then have things go south.

I encourage you to try again though. Paying taxes on store bought weed when that money can be used to harm other people is sort of a cruel situation for non-growers to find themselves in.

Some people even know a guy that knows a guy that in circumstances like yours have been willing to give some seeds away to beginners if they're strapped on cash. Free the weed and all that stuff!

Maybe try growing a couple small auto-flowers or quick flowering smallish plants in buckets in the backyard to get the hang of it if it's difficult for you to commit to a larger garden? Bonus! If weather is a concern you can easily move 10 gallon or smaller container plants to a sheltered area until the weather gets better to increase your chances at a successful grow etc.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

I'm spoiled now with year round outdoors. I still root cuttings and start seeds I need to sex indoors but everything else is outside,

I am envious!

Snowing in Maine right now! Ground is thawed out so it'll all melt tomorrow or monday for sure. I've already got kale and hardy lettuce seedlings going indoors and almost ready to put out a few out by the end of the week.

 

[Jericho Mile]

I'm spoiled now with year round outdoors. I still root cuttings and start seeds I need to sex indoors but everything else is outside,

I am envious. One thing about living at elevation at this latitude I can’t go year round. No avocado…no citrus. Our Apricot tree got frosted out already.

My cucumber and squash seeds are in the mail. I’ll be sowing those and the canna seeds 3rd week of April. Should be clear of frost.

 

[Jericho Mile]

Sorry to hear about that. it can suck to spend money on seeds and then have things go south.

I encourage you to try again though. Paying taxes on store bought weed when that money can be used to harm other people is sort of a cruel situation for non-growers to find themselves in.

Some people even know a guy that knows a guy that in circumstances like yours have been willing to give some seeds away to beginners if they're strapped on cash. Free the weed and all that stuff!

Maybe try growing a couple small auto-flowers or quick flowering smallish plants in buckets in the backyard to get the hang of it if it's difficult for you to commit to a larger garden? Bonus! If weather is a concern you can easily move 10 gallon or smaller container plants to a sheltered area until the weather gets better to increase your chances at a successful grow etc.

He’s not really trying to grow. He could easily obtain all the seeds he wants online via networking for free if he was really into it. That dude just dances with excuses. Been on here for over 15 years.

Let him pay for it.

 

[nepalnt21]

Sorry to hear about that. it can suck to spend money on seeds and then have things go south.

I encourage you to try again though. Paying taxes on store bought weed when that money can be used to harm other people is sort of a cruel situation for non-growers to find themselves in.

it's the main reason i'm finally tying my boots tighter, in terms of doing the boring learning.

well also cause the market is saturated with hybrids that don't work for my body chemistry.

Some people even know a guy that knows a guy that in circumstances like yours have been willing to give some seeds away to beginners if they're strapped on cash. Free the weed and all that stuff!

that is nice, and there have been some awesome ppl i've met... luckily i have more seeds, just gonna be less gung ho about sprouting too many at once.

(they all, the ones that didn't get decapitated by accident... got the same fungus last year, i think fusarium. sone kinda damping off scenario...)

Maybe try growing a couple small auto-flowers or quick flowering smallish plants in buckets in the backyard to get the hang of it if it's difficult for you to commit to a larger garden? Bonus! If weather is a concern you can easily move 10 gallon or smaller container plants to a sheltered area until the weather gets better to increase your chances at a successful grow etc.

that is a good idea, i might do even smaller than that... not a solo cup grow lol but yeah 10 gallons or less sounds about right. and i think it was vince said to use those air pots i think, something to promote air flow and prevent stagnation/ rot.

i got one seed of ace's auto zam, i might have killed it last year, i don't remember.

thanks for the support, tbh i am still a little squeamish about even discussing this stuff online, even with it being "lEgAL" in my state... still, i might have to document everything just to get feedback if anything goes south.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

 

[Jericho Mile]

it's the main reason i'm finally tying my boots tighter, in terms of doing the boring learning.

well also cause the market is saturated with hybrids that don't work for my body chemistry.

that is nice, and there have been some awesome ppl i've met... luckily i have more seeds, just gonna be less gung ho about sprouting too many at once.

(they all, the ones that didn't get decapitated by accident... got the same fungus last year, i think fusarium. sone kinda damping off scenario...)


that is a good idea, i might do even smaller than that... not a solo cup grow lol but yeah 10 gallons or less sounds about right. and i think it was vince said to use those air pots i think, something to promote air flow and prevent stagnation/ rot.

i got one seed of ace's auto zam, i might have killed it last year, i don't remember.

thanks for the support, tbh i am still a little squeamish about even discussing this stuff online, even with it being "lEgAL" in my state... still, i might have to document everything just to get feedback if anything goes south.

you’re so full of shit. 15 + years on here and you are squeamish about having a few plants in a legal State. Shut up.

 

[RobFromTX]

Grow logs are for weak babies. A thread or post which tries to teach through experience is another matter.

You learn by watching other peoples experience. They didnt teach you that in school?

Square business chief. I know your thing is soil science

 

[Jericho Mile]

Fuck around running. The daily effort. Strange how the pottery sherds just appear on mountain peaks. Some ancient persons carried clay vessels way up here. Why I do not know.

Imagine waking up every day actually concerned about surviving the day through. This stuff I find is over a 1000 years old. Sticks and stones for protection. Big bears and marauding tribes….droughts and crop failures…broken bones could be fatal….life before white people ever touched the shores

 

[RobFromTX]

Fuck around running. Strange how the pottery sherds just appear on mountain peaks. Some ancient persons carried clay vessels way up here. Why I do not know.

Probably because of how much cooler it was up top,more wind.
Good place to water up and chill

 

[Microbeman]

You learn by watching other peoples experience. They didnt teach you that in school?

Square business chief. I know your thing is soil science

Ya yer right. Just the very few times I've looked at those official logs, it seemed like just cola flicks.

 

[Jericho Mile]

Probably because of how much cooler it was up top,more wind.
Good place to water up and chill

Bit cooler…not much but yeah the winds are good. Might be there used to be a spring out of the side of the mountain back then. Hard to say. Closest water source would be a couple miles below if not. Even that is seasonal.

Might have been a ceremonial spot. I’ve found pottery from different eras of Mimbrẽnos culture. Same spots. Some painted some not.

^ This is the kind of terrain I find the pottery in. I don’t dig for it. Winds and erosion bring the pieces to the surface. I look for color and odd edges. The big finds were mostly found along the Mimbres River where there were settlements of agriculture. I’ve only found one arrow point on the peak of a mountain. Mimbrẽnos pottery art is legendary. The University here in town has an amazing collection.

* Apache were late comers. They didn’t get here until about 700 years ago. Different language structure. Apache were raiders not farmers. Didn’t make much pottery or art compared to the peoples predating them. This place was a bloodbath about 150 years ago. Brutal warfare. The Apache fought hard. Much respect. No quarter given

 

[Microbeman]

Bit cooler…not much but yeah the winds are good. Might be there used to be a spring out of the side of the mountain back then. Hard to say. Closest water source would be a couple miles below if not. Even that is seasonal.

Might have been a ceremonial spot. I’ve found pottery from different eras of Mimbrẽnos culture. Same spots. Some painted some not.


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^ This is the kind of terrain I find the pottery in. I don’t dig for it. Winds and erosion bring the pieces to the surface. I look for color and odd edges. The big finds were mostly found along the Mimbres River where there were settlements of agriculture. I’ve only found one arrow point on the peak of a mountain. Mimbrẽnos pottery art is legendary. The University here in town has an amazing collection.

* Apache were late comers. They didn’t get here until about 700 years ago. Different language structure. Apache were raiders not farmers. Didn’t make much pottery or art compared to the peoples predating them. This place was a bloodbath about 150 years ago. Brutal warfare. The Apache fought hard. Much respect. No quarter given

The Navajo people and Dene and Dane-Zaa of northwestern Canada speak virtually the same language, which has stumped many anthropologists as to whether they spread north or south. I had a 15 year old Beaver Indian (Dane-Zaa) as part of my family until he turned 20+ and returned to the north. I was asked to take him in because I was on the farm and experienced with 'rough' kids; he had attacked some police with an axe after he watched his Dad remove his own head with a 12 gauge. He was a remarkable young man. He brought fish and rabbit home on the regular, just with fishing line and hooks. You could drop him in the middle of the bush with only a knife and he would thrive.

My present medicine crop;

 

[Jericho Mile]

The Navajo people and Dene and Dane-Zaa of northwestern Canada speak virtually the same language, which has stumped many anthropologists as to whether they spread north or south. I had a 15 year old Beaver Indian (Dane-Zaa) as part of my family until he turned 20+ and returned to the north. I was asked to take him in because I was on the farm and experienced with 'rough' kids; he had attacked some police with an axe after he watched his Dad remove his own head with a 12 gauge. He was a remarkable young man. He brought fish and rabbit home on the regular, just with fishing line and hooks. You could drop him in the middle of the bush with only a knife and he would thrive.

My present medicine crop;
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The Navajo and Apache are closely related. Whereas the Hopi whose rez is in the Navajo Nation and the Zuni are related to the Anasazi. I believe they traced the Navajo and Apache coming down from the North.

I spend time in the Navajo Nation for work…also the Zuni land…and driving through/around many of the Pueblo communities. And of course I’m on the the Apache Mescalero Rez, San Carlos Rez, and Fort Apache Rez. You can see the differences in facial structure amongst the old southern cultures vs the newer influx of northern cultures. I can’t understand the differences in language though.

I’d venture to say that when the Mimbrẽnos people left this immediate region they became what is now Zuni…and also spread back south and west into Mexico and Arizona. The pottery is similar. They didn’t just disappear.


There are many cliff dwellings around these parts. I find them on any South facing cliffs with an immediate water source. Even the Apache avoided the ancient’s cliff dwellings. It took the white man to go into them. we just can’t leave shit alone.

Is that Arugula?

 

[Microbeman]

Is that Arugula?

Poppies

 

[Chi13]

The Navajo and Apache are closely related. Whereas the Hopi whose rez is in the Navajo Nation and the Zuni are related to the Anasazi. I believe they traced the Navajo and Apache coming down from the North.

I spend time in the Navajo Nation for work…also the Zuni land…and driving through/around many of the Pueblo communities. And of course I’m on the the Apache Mescalero Rez, San Carlos Rez, and Fort Apache Rez. You can see the differences in facial structure amongst the old southern cultures vs the newer influx of northern cultures. I can’t understand the differences in language though.

I’d venture to say that when the Mimbrẽnos people left this immediate region they became what is now Zuni…and also spread back south and west into Mexico and Arizona. The pottery is similar. They didn’t just disappear.


There are many cliff dwellings around these parts. I find them on any South facing cliffs with an immediate water source. Even the Apache avoided the ancient’s cliff dwellings. It took the white man to go into them. we just can’t leave shit alone.

Is that Arugula?

Had to look up Navaho cliff dwellings. They are amazing!

 

[Jericho Mile]

Poppies

Ahhh. Nice. I’ve never grown them in quantity. Thought it looked like Arugula. I used to grow it for my wife’s salads. Strong stuff.

I haven’t had opium since the late 80’s. It’s good stuff.