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Have You Been Vaccinated?

Have You Been Vaccinated?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 64 29.9%
  • No!

    Votes: 48 22.4%
  • Soon!

    Votes: 15 7.0%
  • No Way!

    Votes: 72 33.6%
  • I Just Wanna Watch!

    Votes: 15 7.0%

  • Total voters
    214

nepalnt21

FRRRRRResh!
Veteran
You called me worse than that. The MR vaccine IS for measles. Did I state that any child should go unvaccinated?
no you didn't state it, but vaccine hesitancy isn't only fueled by gasoline, other seemingly less flammable substances work as well.

and it seems vaccine hesitancy is mounting, because many many people only think about their asterisk
 

armedoldhippy

Well-known member
Veteran
no cherries in there, old friend. just plain old reality. people keep quoting long disproven "theories" and such for YEARS after proven false, because they want them to be true. reality sucks.
 

Chi13

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
I pretty much stated these variables myself. Please do me the justice of reading what I wrote. Also please note I am discussing MMR compared to MR. I worked in the field of autism extensively after working/studying in university neurology/physiological psych labs and have done microbiological research for 30 years (ongoing) - not specifically related but gives me a good base in scientific thought.

This is just a removal of the mumps vaccine from the cocktail and just an observation of stats which jumped out at me. Are you afraid that new information could come to light or are you just complacent in 'done and dusted'. In scientific method 'done and dusted' is rare. Look at all the errors of classification/taxonomy of microorganisms which have occurred just in the past 50 years.
Yes, sorry, I've explained via private message.

I guess I'm coming from working with families that suffered huge guilt and conflict when it was first suggested vaccines might be the culprit, and experienced their relief when it shown to be not so. There's a feeling of "oh no, not this again". And yes, I do believe it's done and dusted. I guess with the new vaccine skeptics in the CDC this will now be disproven, but I doubt that will settle it unfortunately. I feel science itself is under attack which worries me greatly.

Anyway I will leave it there.
 

Microbeman

The Logical Gardener
ICMag Donor
Veteran
no cherries in there, old friend. just plain old reality. people keep quoting long disproven "theories" and such for YEARS after proven false, because they want them to be true. reality sucks.
It is not a theory. It was an explanation of what I had outlined, which had nothing to do with being anti-vaccination. It had to do with the administration of Measles-Rubella opposed to Measles-Mumps-Rubella. If you read before putting your foot into your mouth, I'm confident, you would realize this.
 

Microbeman

The Logical Gardener
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Yes, sorry, I've explained via private message.

I guess I'm coming from working with families that suffered huge guilt and conflict when it was first suggested vaccines might be the culprit, and experienced their relief when it shown to be not so. There's a feeling of "oh no, not this again". And yes, I do believe it's done and dusted. I guess with the new vaccine skeptics in the CDC this will now be disproven, but I doubt that will settle it unfortunately. I feel science itself is under attack which worries me greatly.

Anyway I will leave it there.
Ok all good. If viable, which I suspect, it is not the families' fault but the fault of the drug companies and shot administrators for 1/ not making MR available as it is to the 'poor' countries or M & M & R. and 2/ not checking every kid for vitals prior to the shot. Simple shit.

The definition of science is a set of protocols for asking questions. One never stops asking.
 

Chi13

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
Ok all good. If viable, which I suspect, it is not the families' fault but the fault of the drug companies and shot administrators for 1/ not making MR available as it is to the 'poor' countries or M & M & R. and 2/ not checking every kid for vitals prior to the shot. Simple shit.

The definition of science is a set of protocols for asking questions. One never stops asking.
Agree with that, particularly the last bit. I guess science history is full of examples where something is accepted for a long time, and then shown up to be wrong.
 

BudToaster

Well-known member
Veteran
Agree with that, particularly the last bit. I guess science history is full of examples where something is accepted for a long time, and then shown up to be wrong.
yes, when the oldsters die, the paradigm can shift ... the arc of understanding can bend toward reality.
 

Captain Red Eye

Well-known member
so the vaccine designed to prevent the disease caused by the experimental virus is the kool- aid?

or.....???


The problem with not being able to go back in time to undo a thing that a person has done ?
It can cause the person to double down on convincing themself what they did was a good idea....even if it wasn't.



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Jericho Mile

Well-known member
Veteran
The problem with not being able to go back in time to undo a thing that a person has done ?
It can cause the person to double down on convincing themself what they did was a good idea....even if it wasn't.



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Admitting that they were in full blown panic attack mode is something these fine folks will never own up to. Kool Aid has that effect.

Time for some mass grave pictures.
 

Jericho Mile

Well-known member
Veteran
Things are not always as they are portrayed.

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Take everything you are presented with not a grain…but a handful of salt. Believe roughly a 1/4 of what any anonymous internet entities say….

2nd day of a typical Spring wind event here. So much dust and pollens in the air…ions colliding chaotically….pressure head aches ensue….red flag warnings…increased fire danger

On call for work…but I’ll attempt to get down to the ranch and get some more prep work done

Fucking off on the internet is just that 😂
 

Captain Red Eye

Well-known member
Take everything you are presented with not a grain…but a handful of salt. Believe roughly a 1/4 of what any anonymous internet entities say….

2nd day of a typical Spring wind event here. So much dust and pollens in the air…ions colliding chaotically….pressure head aches ensue….red flag warnings…increased fire danger

On call for work…but I’ll attempt to get down to the ranch and get some more prep work done

Fucking off on the internet is just that 😂

Good luck with your garden! I am on a road trip later today to visit old friends.

Bought a new greenhouse to replace the little one that a winter wind fallen tree limb took out. Seedlings are started indoors.

Another spring, more life to live, things to do and things to grow!
 

shiva82

Well-known member
Good luck with your garden! I am on a road trip later today to visit old friends.

Bought a new greenhouse to replace the little one that a winter wind fallen tree limb took out. Seedlings are started indoors.

Another spring, more life to live, things to do and things to grow!
make sure you get your booster
 

Jericho Mile

Well-known member
Veteran
Good luck with your garden! I am on a road trip later today to visit old friends.

Bought a new greenhouse to replace the little one that a winter wind fallen tree limb took out. Seedlings are started indoors.

Another spring, more life to live, things to do and things to grow!
Happy trails!

Fun times. A lot of work getting things ready to go.

50 mph wind gusts not going to help today

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^ from 2 days ago before the wind event. See how it looks today. Juniper duff is good stuff to blend with fresh chipped mulch…everything is free from off the forest or from around the ranch property. Free but it requires a lot of work/time.

Growing in native mediums only is a different trip. I have no idea what the nutrient levels are or the pH but it has always worked out for me. Direct sowing this garden too. Adds to the drama 😂 fun fun fun

Talk about needing a dust mask. The dust and mold spores are gnarly on the throat and sinuses….

fuck this Covid scare nonsense…there are way bigger threats to health out there 😂 for example : the internet wasteland
 
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