so the vaccine designed to prevent the disease caused by the experimental virus is the kool- aid?
or.....???
Have You Been Vaccinated?
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or.....???
i'm surrounded by antivaxxers, BEGGING for good evidence, clearly i'm not the sheep here lol
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Completely absolutely incorrect. It was about $$$ being the reason that only MMR is available to the USA public. This is VERY in line with your exhibited inability to follow the written word and logic. It is similar to what you exhibited before when you called me an anti-vaxer.
someone that espouses anti- vaxxer shenanigans... quacks like a duck kinda thing,
but i went back and looked,
Merck no longer produces single antigen measles, mumps, and/or rubella vaccines for the U.S. market. Only combined MMR is available. You should educate parents about the lack of association between MMR and autism. You may provide parents with Immunize.org’s parent handout (developed in collaboration with the Autism Science Foundation): Evidence Shows Vaccines Unrelated to Autism,
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peso symbols aside, you can see how i'd easily make the mistake that you were saying the last line was bullshit, idk... i still don't see it, but then i was vaccinated as a child.
but i went back and looked,
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Merck no longer produces single antigen measles, mumps, and/or rubella vaccines for the U.S. market. Only combined MMR is available. You should educate parents about the lack of association between MMR and autism. You may provide parents with Immunize.org’s parent handout (developed in collaboration with the Autism Science Foundation): Evidence Shows Vaccines Unrelated to Autism,
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peso symbols aside, you can see how i'd easily make the mistake that you were saying the last line was bullshit, idk... i still don't see it, but then i was vaccinated as a child.
That was just a link within the article. I was obviously discussing MMR and MR availability globally. Shows my point that you don't read and comprehend what is there. You read one liners, based on your preconceived beliefs.
and that would be advocating for separate antigen shots?
but why is autism in the discussion at all? there has been discussion of it, even before i responded to the post you made about 'pure $$ bullshit'...
if i'm to assume you aren't one that engages with anti vaxxer rhetoric, why has there ever been discussion, by you, of autism in this thread?
Are you really that dense? There is a hypothesis that the MMR vaccine contributes to the development of autism in some/many children. Due to this there have been professionals advocating for stricter guidelines/monitoring of the health of the children being vaccinated - e.g. temperature, blood pressure checks. Additionally they have advocated for the MMR vaccine to be not given as a cocktail but rather by individual injections separated by time. This has been ALL I've said.
Of recent I noticed some profound differences in autism rates between countries, (posted just a few pages back) with the US rate being high. Taking this one step further I found that countries with low rates of autism, more often use the MR vaccine rather than the MMR. I stated there could be other reasons for this discrepancy but comparing 1 in 500 kids in India compared to 1 in 36 in the USA with autism is eye opening.
I am siding with @Jericho Mile - You need to take a break.
y'all are indeed really demanding, and i don't recall ever calling you dense.
i'm just wanting to understand why ppl spread antivaxxer stuff, which i include to mean anything that promotes vaccine hesitancy... if you think there's some link, that's fine, but i am HIGHLY unmoved by your case;
i think there oughtta be a stronger case before ppl go endangering my children with threats of measles pandemics etc... much scarier than ending up with autism, which again... i don't see how you're moved so strongly by this, i remember looking at something you posted, prolly the thing you're referring to, and being highly unconvinced.
It's extremely difficult comparing different countries rates of disease of disability as health systems differ so much. There are large differences in the rates of diagnosis for starters; add in poverty, access to doctors, access to doctors who specialise, and cultural differences. On the last one, there is often stigma associated with having a child with a disability in many societies.
I take the very large studies that have been done as robust enough. I know we differ on this and I don't really want to go back and forth endlessly on this topic, just wanted to state my view. As mentioned before I work in this field, not a researcher though, but well versed in reading studies. I trained in qualitative and quantitative research methods many moons ago.
Most experts in the field think this is done and dusted. No link between vaccine and autism.
1 in 500 in india
dawg have you seen india lmfao do you think there are enough clinics or doctors or infrastructure to have the rigourous first world diagnoses process as the US?
all the vaccine autism shit stems from andrew wakefield, a discredited snake oil salesman.
dawg have you seen india lmfao do you think there are enough clinics or doctors or infrastructure to have the rigourous first world diagnoses process as the US?
all the vaccine autism shit stems from andrew wakefield, a discredited snake oil salesman.
I rarely look at videos others post, but this one was a true eye opener.
You called me worse than that. The MR vaccine IS for measles. Did I state that any child should go unvaccinated?
Pfizer’s inclusion of an unnecessary SV40 promoter was so shocking that the peer reviewed paper actually intimated nefarious intent.
Something Dr Mikolaj Raszek had never seen before in published science.
‘These authors claim that Pfizer and BioNtech who are the producers of this mRNA vaccine should be held accountable for exposing humanity to something so dangerous as allowing mRNA shots that had DNA plasmid contamination that had the SV40 promoter.’
This is the greatest crime against humanity in modern history.
Prosecute Bill Gates.
Something Dr Mikolaj Raszek had never seen before in published science.
‘These authors claim that Pfizer and BioNtech who are the producers of this mRNA vaccine should be held accountable for exposing humanity to something so dangerous as allowing mRNA shots that had DNA plasmid contamination that had the SV40 promoter.’
This is the greatest crime against humanity in modern history.
Prosecute Bill Gates.
I pretty much stated these variables myself. Please do me the justice of reading what I wrote. Also please note I am discussing MMR compared to MR. I worked in the field of autism extensively after working/studying in university neurology/physiological psych labs and have done microbiological research for 30 years (ongoing) - not specifically related but gives me a good base in scientific thought.
This is just a removal of the mumps vaccine from the cocktail and just an observation of stats which jumped out at me. Are you afraid that new information could come to light or are you just complacent in 'done and dusted'. In scientific method 'done and dusted' is rare. Look at all the errors of classification/taxonomy of microorganisms which have occurred just in the past 50 years.
That is not the case. Please educate yourself. As for India, I chose it because of the widest gulf. Why are you folks SO obsessed with mumps?
if one looks hard enough, you'll find someone espousing a hypothesis about damn near anything. doesn't mean there is an iota of truth to it.
