Have You Been Vaccinated?

[Gry]

Let's see if I got this..

The no vac people are complaining the vaccine was never properly tested before it was released for use. This is there #1 reason for not taking the vaccine...
The same people are OK taking Ivermectin which was never tested/approved for use in people for Covid-19 lol.. The only testing done was on parasites and illnesses caused by parasites. So let see it's my body so no thanks giving me a vaccine jab vs It's my body yes please fill my pie hole with cow dewormer. We think this is safer than getting vaccinated.

Logic of the deep lunar sea.

 

[Chi13]

Australia and New Zealand are both in a very serious hostage crisis. The whole world is watching and everyone is able to view the Deep State's global agenda more clearly each and everyday.

"Never interfere with an enemy while it it is in the process of destroying its self"
-The Art of War

Rubbish, Hempy. What we are seeing is national and international Right Wing media misrepresenting Australia's situation, such as Murdoch owned Sky news. or that fucker Carelson from Fox. It's been stated very clearly that we will open up once a certain vaccination percentage has been reached. Lockdown has happened when needed, and then things have returned to normal. It is simply a response to a health situation.

 

[member 505892]

Rubbish, Hempy. What we are seeing is national and international Right Wing media misrepresenting Australia's situation, such as Murdoch owned Sky news. or that fucker Carelson from Fox. It's been stated very clearly that we will open up once a certain vaccination percentage has been reached. Lockdown has happened when needed, and then things have returned to normal. It is simply a response to a health situation.

Hempy is a sensationalist and feeds off sensationalist tabloids and personalities.
Reality is too nuanced for many.

 

[dramamine]

Yes, I was indeed aware of it's original, or labelled use.
Miraculous for those who had been infested with the parasite responsible for River Blindness.
Used successfully in both human and livestock populations as an antiparasitic.

I figured you were aware. That comedy video and all of the derisive "horse medicine" headlines lately fly in the face of the extreme success ivermectin has had vs. Covid19 in countries like Peru, Mexico, India and many more.

In proper dosage, people have nothing to lose and a lot to gain if ivermectin is taken. Wonder how many success stories we can continue to dismiss out of hand, simply because they aren't rubber-stamped by the health industry behemoth. I think we should be careful to not become dogmatic about this illness and effective treatments. Obviously, good science detests dogma and is always searching for a better solution.

 

[Gry]

I figured you were aware. That comedy video and all of the derisive "horse medicine" headlines lately fly in the face of the extreme success ivermectin has had vs. Covid19 in countries like Peru, Mexico, India and many more.

In proper dosage, people have nothing to lose and a lot to gain if ivermectin is taken. Wonder how many success stories we can continue to dismiss out of hand, simply because they aren't rubber-stamped by the health industry behemoth. I think we should be careful to not become dogmatic about this illness and effective treatments. Obviously, good science detests dogma and is always searching for a better solution.

My understanding is that we are about to see peer reviewed material made available.

On a related note, I was blessed to have had someone share the following with me:
https://www.mycancerstory.rocks/

An encapsulation:
http://i2b.us/fenbendazole-from-md-a...o-joe-tippens/

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Hempy is a sensationalist and feeds off sensationalist tabloids and personalities.
Reality is too nuanced for many.

We've seen the videos of the protests, we've seen the totalitarian / authoritarian measures. Some of us have seen the footage of the truck blockade which is being very heavily censored. Didn't they just pass a bill to punish doctors who post the truth on social media against the approved narrative? The whole world sees.

https://www.ahpra.gov.au/documents/...30751&dbid=AP&chksum=zrOQ56xJaaLbasNxLDyqMA==

"Any promotion of anti-vaccination statements or health advice which contradicts the best available scientific evidence or seeks to actively undermine the national immunisation campaign (including via social media) is not supported by National Boards and may be in breach of the codes of conduct and subject to investigation and possible regulatory action.

National Boards have developed social media guidance to help registered health practitioners understand and meet their obligations when using social media. The guidance explains that registered health practitioners must make sure that their social media activity is consistent with the regulatory framework for their profession and does not contradict or counter public health campaigns or messaging, such as the Australian COVID-19 Vaccination Policy.

Health practitioners are reminded that it is an offence under the National Law to advertise a regulated health service4 (including via social media) in a way that is false, misleading or deceptive. Advertising that includes false, misleading or deceptive claims about COVID-19, including anti-vaccination material, may result in prosecution by Ahpra.

Concerns about the conduct or practice of a health practitioner can be reported to Ahpra via the Ahpra concerns submission portal. National Boards can consider whether the practitioner has breached their professional obligations and will treat these matters seriously and in accordance with established procedure."

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

 

[member 505892]

We've seen the videos of the protests, we've seen the totalitarian / authoritarian measures. Some of us have seen the footage of the truck blockade which is being very heavily censored. Didn't they just pass a bill to punish doctors who post the truth on social media against the approved narrative? The whole world sees.

https://www.ahpra.gov.au/documents/d...NxLDyqMA%3D%3D

"Any promotion of anti-vaccination statements or health advice which contradicts the best available scientific evidence or seeks to actively undermine the national immunisation campaign (including via social media) is not supported by National Boards and may be in breach of the codes of conduct and subject to investigation and possible regulatory action.

National Boards have developed social media guidance to help registered health practitioners understand and meet their obligations when using social media. The guidance explains that registered health practitioners must make sure that their social media activity is consistent with the regulatory framework for their profession and does not contradict or counter public health campaigns or messaging, such as the Australian COVID-19 Vaccination Policy.

Health practitioners are reminded that it is an offence under the National Law to advertise a regulated health service4 (including via social media) in a way that is false, misleading or deceptive. Advertising that includes false, misleading or deceptive claims about COVID-19, including anti-vaccination material, may result in prosecution by Ahpra.

Concerns about the conduct or practice of a health practitioner can be reported to Ahpra via the Ahpra concerns submission portal. National Boards can consider whether the practitioner has breached their professional obligations and will treat these matters seriously and in accordance with established procedure."

Like i said, reality is nuanced, too much for many people.
Particularly sensationalist types....

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Like i said, reality is nuanced, too much for many people.
Particularly sensationalist types....

Okay....Anything else you want to add to that? Or, is reality now fixed?

 

[member 505892]

Okay....Anything else you want to add to that? Or, is reality now fixed?

You can't FIX reality, bud.... some things which are beneficial to sociecty as a WHOLE cause problems for individuals, that's the nature of politics and REALITY.
There are grey areas in society/ politics where there is no clear cut answer, yet decisions have to be made.... you CANNOT please everyone.

You're just a sensationalist who will always want to argue and complain about things when you have zero perspective yourself.
In essence- a Karen.

 

[Chi13]

We've seen the videos of the protests, we've seen the totalitarian / authoritarian measures. Some of us have seen the footage of the truck blockade which is being very heavily censored. Didn't they just pass a bill to punish doctors who post the truth on social media against the approved narrative? The whole world sees.

https://www.ahpra.gov.au/documents/d...NxLDyqMA%3D%3D

"Any promotion of anti-vaccination statements or health advice which contradicts the best available scientific evidence or seeks to actively undermine the national immunisation campaign (including via social media) is not supported by National Boards and may be in breach of the codes of conduct and subject to investigation and possible regulatory action.

National Boards have developed social media guidance to help registered health practitioners understand and meet their obligations when using social media. The guidance explains that registered health practitioners must make sure that their social media activity is consistent with the regulatory framework for their profession and does not contradict or counter public health campaigns or messaging, such as the Australian COVID-19 Vaccination Policy.

Health practitioners are reminded that it is an offence under the National Law to advertise a regulated health service4 (including via social media) in a way that is false, misleading or deceptive. Advertising that includes false, misleading or deceptive claims about COVID-19, including anti-vaccination material, may result in prosecution by Ahpra.

Concerns about the conduct or practice of a health practitioner can be reported to Ahpra via the Ahpra concerns submission portal. National Boards can consider whether the practitioner has breached their professional obligations and will treat these matters seriously and in accordance with established procedure."

Its a democracy here, not a totalitarian state. People protest. There was a truck blockade. If it was heavily censored as you claim, then how would you know?
I have watched as parts of Australia have gone into and out of lockdown. I have heard people claim the government is taking your freedom, never to retun it, then only a week or so later its back to normal again. This has been going on for ages. These measures are only in response to a health matter. People like you blow it out of proportion. I'd hate to think how you woud react in a real totalitarian situation, or a crisis such as a war. FFS people like you think you're making a statement by not wearing a mask. It's pathetic and selfish. and frankly stupid. People's health and lives are at risk.

Did you read your link? It is not illegal to post the truth, far from it. The opposite is the case. It is illegal to advertise false, misleading, or deceptive medical claims if you are a medical professional. This stops medical professionals making snake oil type claims for treatments or products, until something is peer reviewed. Covid obviously falls into that category and I guess ahpra felt the need to reinforce that.

 

[flylowgethigh]

These shortages they are contriving may be the start of rationing. Maybe they control food and other essentials, just like they want to control travel, employment, gathering. They can already turn off your money if you use a card or worse yet a phone ap.

Bojo is talking vax passport in GB.

Some crazy shit. Sure glad I have tents. Thanks for that ICMag.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

You can't FIX reality, bud.... some things which are beneficial to sociecty as a WHOLE cause problems for individuals, that's the nature of politics and REALITY.
There are grey areas in society/ politics where there is no clear cut answer, yet decisions have to be made.... you CANNOT please everyone.

You're just a sensationalist who will always want to argue and complain about things when you have zero perspective yourself.
In essence- a Karen.

Oh, homeless guy, I know you don't really mean that!

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Its a democracy here, not a totalitarian state. People protest. There was a truck blockade. If it was heavily censored as you claim, then how would you know?
I have watched as parts of Australia have gone into and out of lockdown. I have heard people claim the government is taking your freedom, never to retun it, then only a week or so later its back to normal again. This has been going on for ages. These measures are only in response to a health matter. People like you blow it out of proportion. I'd hate to think how you woud react in a real totalitarian situation, or a crisis such as a war. FFS people like you think you're making a statement by not wearing a mask. It's pathetic and selfish. and frankly stupid. People's health and lives are at risk.

Did you read your link? It is not illegal to post the truth, far from it. The opposite is the case. It is illegal to advertise false, misleading, or deceptive medical claims if you are a medical professional. This stops medical professionals making snake oil type claims for treatments or products, until something is peer reviewed. Covid obviously falls into that category and I guess ahpra felt the need to reinforce that.

To us Americans it sounds like you are free to do as you are told.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

You're just a sensationalist who will always want to argue and complain about things when you have zero perspective yourself.
In essence- a Karen.

Words hurt...

 

[Chi13]

To us Americans it sounds like you are free to do as you are told.

I just see it as a society mostly cooperating to keep their vulnerable citizens safe.

Personal freedom is important, but I see the sort of freedom that you are promoting as essentially selfish. With freedom comes responsibility. People should not be free to harm others. In the case of a transmissible disease be it Covid or AIDS, you need to act responsibly so as not to infect other citizens. A healthy society protects its vulnerable.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

I just see it as a society mostly cooperating to keep their vulnerable citizens safe.

Personal freedom is important, but I see the sort of freedom that you are promoting as essentially selfish. With freedom comes responsibility. People should not be free to harm others. In the case of a transmissible disease be it Covid or AIDS, you need to act responsibly so as not to infect other citizens. A healthy society protects its vulnerable.

Everything has a beginning. So, where does this end? Is there a FINAL SOLUTION? When it comes to that, will people look back and ask themselves, "at what point was the 'point of no return'?"

What can history teach us?

 

[Chi13]

Everything has a beginning. So, where does this end? Is there a FINAL SOLUTION? When it comes to that, will people look back and ask themselves, "at what point was the 'point of no return'?"

What can history teach us?

FFS!
You love to over sensationalise. As I said earlier, I have seen Australia go into and out of lockdown. All the while an element of the population saying once freedom is gone it's never coming back, but it did, and it will. This isn't Nazi Germany or Russia post revolution. It's people being asked to wear a mask and get vaccinated, and work from home if you can.

What can history teach us? Go and read up on the Spanish Flu and you might have a better perspective. Instead of comparing the Covid outbreak with Stalinist Russia, how about comparing it with a pandemic. You know, compare apples with apples.

Here you go Hempy. This article shows many of the same measures were around during the Spanish Flu.
https://www.insider.com/11-ways-the-covid-19-outbreak-similar-1918s-influenza-pandemic-2020-3

 

[member 505892]

I just see it as a society mostly cooperating to keep their vulnerable citizens safe.

Personal freedom is important, but I see the sort of freedom that you are promoting as essentially selfish. With freedom comes responsibility. People should not be free to harm others. In the case of a transmissible disease be it Covid or AIDS, you need to act responsibly so as not to infect other citizens. A healthy society protects its vulnerable.