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Have You Been Vaccinated?

Have You Been Vaccinated?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 62 31.0%
  • No!

    Votes: 43 21.5%
  • Soon!

    Votes: 15 7.5%
  • No Way!

    Votes: 66 33.0%
  • I Just Wanna Watch!

    Votes: 14 7.0%

  • Total voters
    200

Amynamous

Active member
What's this about executive branch and DOD funding?

https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcre...-funding-bioweapons-research-at-wuhan-n391796



Bottom line: The Pentagon was, through USAID, funding research of bioweapons as part of its responsibility to develop defenses to bioweapon attacks — anti-viral treatments and vaccines. To develop treatments and vaccines for bioweapons, you need to first develop such weapons.

EcoHealth Alliance took funding for research from that USAID, money that came from a Unted States Department of Defense bioweapons research agency, and spent it doing research on bioweapons with a state-run bioweapons lab in China.


Another source:

https://nypost.com/2021/07/01/pentagon-gave-millions-to-ecohealth-alliance-for-wuhan-lab/
 

Amynamous

Active member
I am embarassed for a lot of "Americans". They sign a petition to arrest and jail anti-vaxers.

https://youtu.be/TBRLUGMeBL4

The video shows some random dude randomly asking random people to sign his fake petition. Not sure what that is supposed to mean.

Anyways, I don’t believe that would be possible.

However, I do agree with those who are suggesting the government allow insurance companies to deny hospitalization coverage to unvaccinated people and allow a waiver for EMTALA for unvaccinated patients. I view it as holding people accountable for their life choices. Vaccinated (responsible) people shouldn’t be burdened by subsidizing the largely avoidable and astronomically expensive hospital costs of the (irresponsible) anti-vaxxers. Of course expensive insurance riders could be made available and hospitals (probably) won’t turn you away if you can prove you can pay.

Personal responsibility and freedom goes together, right?
 

NEW ENGLAND

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I don’t believe that would be possible.

However, I do agree with those who are suggesting the government allow insurance companies to deny coverage to unvaccinated people and allow a waiver for EMTALA for unvaccinated patients. I view it as holding people accountable for their life choices. Vaccinated (responsible) people shouldn’t be burdened by subsidizing the largely avoidable and astronomically expensive hospital costs of the (irresponsible) anti-vaxxers. Of course expensive insurance riders could be made available and hospitals (probably) won’t turn you away if you can prove you can pay.

Personal responsibility and freedom goes together, right?

We could use the same reasoning for the morbidly obese who need to be cut out of their apartments by the fire department when they respond to a 911 call,or the alcoholics and the smokers,and the non compliant diabetic patients who are frequent fliers taking up beds while people who are ILL by no fault of their own are a hold in the ER on a stretcher waiting for a bed to become available.
I actually agree with your way of thinking,I'm sick of taking care of people who refuse to take care of themselves I went into healthcare to help the sick,not the stupid.
 

Amynamous

Active member
We could use the same reasoning for the morbidly obese who need to be cut out of their apartments by the fire department when they respond to a 911 call,or the alcoholics and the smokers,and the non compliant diabetic patients who are frequent fliers taking up beds while people who are ILL by no fault of their own are a hold in the ER on a stretcher waiting for a bed to become available.
I actually agree with your way of thinking,I'm sick of taking care of people who refuse to take care of themselves I went into healthcare to help the sick,not the stupid.

Yep.
Considering how much illness is directly related to excess weight and the huge costs involved with trying to contain those illnesses, I have often believed that insurance rates should be scaled based on weight(bmi)…pun intended. Same goes with tobacco use, etc.
 

NEW ENGLAND

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Yep.
Considering how much illness is directly related to excess weight and the huge costs involved with trying to contain those illnesses, I have often believed that insurance rates should be scaled based on weight(bmi)…pun intended. Same goes with tobacco use, etc.

That's something that went wrong with Obama care,the young healthy college student paying high premiums to cover that clientele that willingly causes harm to their own health.

Most of the young healthy opt to pay the fine for lack of coverage,as they cant afford to pay for the older ,sicker.
I cant say I blame them.
 

moose eater

Well-known member
That's something that went wrong with Obama care,the young healthy college student paying high premiums to cover that clientele that willingly causes harm to their own health.

Most of the young healthy opt to pay the fine for lack of coverage,as they cant afford to pay for the older ,sicker.
I cant say I blame them.

The majority of 'young healthy college students' I know are so low on the income scale that they pay little or nothing for their health care under The Affordable Care Act.

On the other hand, I know of some folks making making six figures, in the lower to mid-range of those six figures, who moan all day about the 'outrageous costs' they pay for their family of 4 (2 kids and 2 adults, with both adults working).

Few college young students are making enough to make a blip on the scale that assesses what someone has to pay under the ACA. One reason why the uber-wealthy and kinda'-sorta' wealthy rty like hell to score private insurance, and avoid that steep incline in the fee schedule.
 
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My doctor asked me if i want to get vaccinated the other day, he said i could choose either type but one has a small waiting list.

I told him i don't know the difference between the two and said i'll do some research and let him know, he said that's fine.... i'm not an overly social human, so i'm in no rush, but i will do ~some~ research.
 

unclefishstick

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My doctor asked me if i want to get vaccinated the other day, he said i could choose either type but one has a small waiting list.

I told him i don't know the difference between the two and said i'll do some research and let him know, he said that's fine.... i'm not an overly social human, so i'm in no rush, but i will do ~some~ research.

do yourself a favor and don't get your info from a pot growing site...or youtube
 

Gry

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Veteran
Alarm as US Covid cases above 100,000 a day for first time since February
  • Seven-day hospital admissions average up 40% from last week
  • Mississippi health official says Delta surging ‘like a tsunami’
Daily Covid-19 cases in the US moved above 100,000 a day for the first time since February, higher than the levels of last summer when vaccines were not available, and came as health officials sounded alarm over lagging rates of vaccination driving the surge of the infectious Delta variant.

The seven-day average of hospital admissions has also increased more than 40% from the week before, with health workers describing frustration and exhaustion as hospitals in Covid hotspots were again overwhelmed with patients, almost 20 months into the pandemic in the US.
“As we look at our hospitalizations and as we look at our deaths, they are overwhelmingly unvaccinated people,” CDC director Rochelle Walensky said at a briefing on Thursday.

About half of all new infections and hospitalizations in the past week were in seven southern states Florida, Texas, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi – even though the states represent less than a quarter of the country’s population, said White House coronavirus coordinator, Jeff Zients.
In Mississippi on Thursday, there were 3,164 new confirmed cases, the second highest single-day caseload in the state during the pandemic.

“We’re seeing a phenomenal increase in daily reported cases of Covid, and this is entirely attributable to the Delta variant, which is sweeping over Mississippi like a tsunami,” said state health officer Thomas Dobbs.

The entire state had just eight ICU beds available on Thursday, officials said, and more than 1,147 people were hospitalized with Covid-19.

Nichole Atherton, an intensive care nurse in Mississippi, told Reuters she was planning to resign from her hospital and find nursing work elsewhere because she couldn’t stand watching Covid’s toll on her community.

“The first wave was heartbreaking, because there was nothing people could do except stay away from the people they love,” Atherton said about infections last year before vaccines were developed. “This time, there are options.”

Three people have messaged her to say they will get vaccinated, Atherton said.

At a White House coronavirus briefing on Thursday, officials said as cases surge, efforts were focused on communities with low vaccination rates, which are driving the pandemic.

“Across the board, we are seeing increases in cases and hospitalizations in all age groups,” said Walensky.

Walensky said the CDC had reported more than 103,400 new cases of Covid on Wednesday, and that the seven-day average for cases was about 89,463 per day.

One bright spot is vaccination rates are now increasing again across the US. White House data director Cyrus Shahpar said that on Wednesday there were more vaccinations in a single day than since 3 July, with 864,000 new doses reported administered. Of those, 585,000 were first shots.

Of the three vaccines approved for emergency use in the US, Johnson & Johnson only requires one shot, Pfizer and Moderna’s vaccines need two shots several weeks apart, and all three give strong protection.

Some of the same states responsible for the increase in cases are also picking up the vaccination pace. The White House said Tennessee has seen a 90% increase in first shots over the past two weeks. Oklahoma saw an 82% increase and Georgia saw a 66% percent increase.

“The unvaccinated continue to be the big highway of transmission,” William Schaffner of Vanderbilt University Medical Center told CNN. “So the unvaccinated continue to be the big highway of transmission. The vaccinated, they’re little side streets. Let’s not get preoccupied with that. We need to get more people vaccinated.”

A growing number of companies are requiring employees get the Covid-19 vaccine. United on Friday became the first major US airline to require all employees get vaccinated.

And defense secretary Lloyd Austin is expected to soon order vaccines mandatory for the military. More than a million service members are fully vaccinated of the roughly two million active-duty, guard and reserve troops, according to the Associated Press.

Meanwhile, hospitals are fighting to get financial help from state and federal officials. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) provides funding to help cover some Covid-related costs at hospitals.

But state officials in Texas are denying funding requests from hospitals as cases surge across the state, after providing $5.39bn earlier in the pandemic, which was reimbursed by Fema, according to local news channel WFAA.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-delta-variant
 

Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
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Jabbed people can infect other people as well, so send them to court as well.

By jabbed I think you are saying those that are vaccinated?. .. Sure but you won't get sick. Too be honest I've not read much about those vaccinated infecting others. I think those not are more of a threat., My comment was for those not being vaccinated. Everyone vaccinated won't get sick or at worst no serious symptoms=No damages. If you refuse to be vaccinated you cant claim damages. Id be comfortable around those vaccinated than those that re not.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
do yourself a favor and don't get your info from a pot growing site...or youtube

One can find a far more complete set of facts, regarding medical treatment & prevention of Covid19, from some websites than from the CDC, NIH, or FDA.

It's simply a matter of finding the right websites.

I suggest ICU doc Pierre Kory's interviews as a starter.


The CDC NIH & FDA websites are shit on the subject of Covid19.

They won't even admit that some vitamins hurt the Covid virus'es chances enough for Mr. Fauci to take those vitamins.
 

unclefishstick

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One can find a far more complete set of facts, regarding medical treatment & prevention of Covid19, from some websites than from the CDC, NIH, or FDA.

It's simply a matter of finding the right websites.

I suggest ICU doc Pierre Kory's interviews as a starter.


The CDC NIH & FDA websites are shit on the subject of Covid19.

They won't even admit that some vitamins hurt the Covid virus'es chances enough for Mr. Fauci to take those vitamins.

thank you for demonstrating why you shouldn't get your info from a pot site!:biggrin:
 

buzzmobile

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Information was spelled incorectlee 🤣

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