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Have You Been Vaccinated?

Have You Been Vaccinated?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 62 31.0%
  • No!

    Votes: 43 21.5%
  • Soon!

    Votes: 15 7.5%
  • No Way!

    Votes: 66 33.0%
  • I Just Wanna Watch!

    Votes: 14 7.0%

  • Total voters
    200

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The same people that tell you about the dangers of Covid spent years preaching the dangers of cannabis. I believe Covid was introduced by world governments an a measure of control and to see who would be compliant. Nothing else makes sense. Millions of people taking an experimental drug to minimize the risk of a disease as benign as Covid is pure mass insanity. Masks mass insanity. Shut downs mass insanity. Welcome to the woke world.
 

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My Grandfather died of “Covid” in reality he was an 86 year old man who happened to test positive for Covid before having a massive heart attack. So science will undoubtedly count him as a Covid death. Reality gramps made it ten years on a quadruple biomass and died of a heart attack.
 

flylowgethigh

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My Grandfather died of “Covid” in reality he was an 86 year old man who happened to test positive for Covid before having a massive heart attack. So science will undoubtedly count him as a Covid death. Reality gramps made it ten years on a quadruple biomass and died of a heart attack.


At least he wasn't locked up in a "nursing" facility that would not let his family defend him against their torture.

Intubtion, nice. Now they're injecting people with... who knows what?

Oh, and then locked away in a reefer van for a year to destroy the evidence. Have a virtual funeral for your loved ones, andy needs the cadavers.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/sick-750-nyc-covid-victims-still-refrigerated-trucks/
 
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Absolem

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It was science and the medical community that got cannabis legalized by going the medical route and scientifically showing the medical value of cannabis.

Now we are supposed to not believe the medical community when it comes to covid according to the anti vaxxers.
 

unclefishstick

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It was science and the medical community that got cannabis legalized by going the medical route and scientifically showing the medical value of cannabis.

Now we are supposed to not believe the medical community when it comes to covid according to the anti vaxxers.

they also think 74 million is bigger than 80 million so there is that...
 

St. Phatty

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The same people that tell you about the dangers of Covid spent years preaching the dangers of cannabis. I believe Covid was introduced by world governments an a measure of control and to see who would be compliant. Nothing else makes sense. Millions of people taking an experimental drug to minimize the risk of a disease as benign as Covid is pure mass insanity. Masks mass insanity. Shut downs mass insanity. Welcome to the woke world.

If Trump had done a good job with Covid19, would he have been re-elected ?
 

dramamine

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It was science and the medical community that got cannabis legalized by going the medical route and scientifically showing the medical value of cannabis.

Wow. So if that's true, then it implies that the medical community kept it illegal for all those years by not showing the medical value.

The medical community, as an entity, is a money-making racket with no regard for human well-being. It would take real cognitive dissonance to see it any other way. No offense intended.
 

Absolem

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Wow. So if that's true, then it implies that the medical community kept it illegal for all those years by not showing the medical value.

The medical community, as an entity, is a money-making racket with no regard for human well-being. It would take real cognitive dissonance to see it any other way. No offense intended.

It was the paper barons of the 1920's that helped make cannabis illegal. The medical community had nothing to do with it. The medical community was also barred from studying cannabis per orders of the federal government. The best early research on cannabis was coming from Israel.

The inability to distinguish between medical doctors and the insurance companies is the real cognitive dissonance. The medical community is not a fan of the insurance companies.
 

CosmicGiggle

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It was science and the medical community that got cannabis legalized by going the medical route and scientifically showing the medical value of cannabis.........

Excuse me, it was early cannabis activist Jack Herer who ultimately got cannabis legalized by identifying it as a medicine used to self-medicate a number of illnesses. Before he wrote his book The Emperor Wears No Clothes while in prison for his activism, cannabis was seen as strictly a recreational drug of no value.

Science and the medical community slowly took up the mantle while hampered by laws prohibiting their access to cannabis for research. :tiphat:
 

unclefishstick

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It was the paper barons of the 1920's that helped make cannabis illegal. The medical community had nothing to do with it. The medical community was also barred from studying cannabis per orders of the federal government. The best early research on cannabis was coming from Israel.

The inability to distinguish between medical doctors and the insurance companies is the real cognitive dissonance. The medical community is not a fan of the insurance companies.

don't forget the racist...some of the first anti pot laws were to keep mexican laborers out of the job market
 

CaptainDankness

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Excuse me, it was early cannabis activist Jack Herer who ultimately got cannabis legalized by identifying it as a medicine used to self-medicate a number of illnesses. Before he wrote his book The Emperor Wears No Clothes while in prison for his activism, cannabis was seen as strictly a recreational drug of no value.

Science and the medical community slowly took up the mantle while hampered by laws prohibiting their access to cannabis for research. :tiphat:

He definitely did help a lot, but The Emperor Wears no Clothes was published in 1985. Peter Tosh's Bush Doctor was released in 1978, so it was definitely common knowledge to the Rastafarians that cannabis is a medicine. Of course the history too, we had cannabis medicines before prohibition.

I'm sure without Jack Herer we'd probably be a few years behind, but it was known to have some medical benefits for thousands of years and it hasn't even been illegal for 100 years.
 

Gry

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Recently found myself in the odd role of attempting to provide something akin to comfort to far right friends who have had the vax.
The propaganda that is poured over us is the best that money can buy.
Would think those with an interest in canna history may want to spend a little time looking into Sir William Brooke O'Saughnessy.


Sir. William Brooke O’Shaughnessy - Medical Cannabis Pioneer

https://medium.com/@dubhempmuseum/s...ghnessy-medical-cannabis-pioneer-c94798fd7722
 

Gry

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It was the paper barons of the 1920's that helped make cannabis illegal. The medical community had nothing to do with it. The medical community was also barred from studying cannabis per orders of the federal government. The best early research on cannabis was coming from Israel.

The inability to distinguish between medical doctors and the insurance companies is the real cognitive dissonance. The medical community is not a fan of the insurance companies.

A fascinating subject, and such an interesting period in our history.
 

Gry

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Wow. So if that's true, then it implies that the medical community kept it illegal for all those years by not showing the medical value.

The medical community, as an entity, is a money-making racket with no regard for human well-being. It would take real cognitive dissonance to see it any other way. No offense intended.

Big pharma did not hold the same level of political sway then, that it does today. When that is taken into account, it becomes more understandable that other titans of industry made the call.
I think that one could easily spend an entire lifetime learning of the period with out being able to cover all the bases.
Often thought to myself, that it is possible that contained in the personal letters and papers of the titans of the period,
one likely could come much closer to be able to being able to determine who put the screws to cannabis.
 

mexcurandero420

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Comparing the flu to the covid virus shows a lack of knowledge about the two.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...th%20influenza.
What's the difference between COVID-19 and the flu?


COVID-19 and the flu have several differences. COVID-19 and the flu are caused by different viruses. COVID-19 is caused by a new coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2, while influenza is caused by influenza A and B viruses.

Symptoms of COVID-19 and the flu appear at different times and have some differences. With COVID-19, you may experience loss of taste or smell. COVID-19 symptoms generally appear two to 14 days after exposure. Flu symptoms usually appear about one to four days after exposure. COVID-19 appears to be more contagious and to spread more quickly than the flu. Severe illness such as lung injury is more frequent with COVID-19 than with influenza. The mortality rate also is higher with COVID-19 than the flu.

Another difference is that the flu can be treated with antiviral drugs. Only one antiviral drug, called remdesivir, is currently approved to treat COVID-19. Researchers are evaluating many drugs and treatments for COVID-19. Some drugs may help reduce the severity of COVID-19.

You can get an annual flu vaccine to help reduce your risk of the flu. The flu vaccine can also reduce the severity of the flu and the risk of serious complications. Each year's flu vaccine provides protection from the three or four influenza viruses that are expected to be the most common during that year's flu season. The vaccine can be given as a shot (injection) or as a nasal spray.

The flu vaccine doesn't protect you from getting COVID-19. Research also shows that getting the flu vaccine does not make you more likely to get COVID-19 or other respiratory infections.

Always nice that copy and paste from you, but ever looked to the symptoms between those two, there are some similarities like headaches, coughing, diarrhea, vomiting, etc.Even the highest peak of hospitalization is even at the same time.

Did the flu shot help in the winter of 2018?Nope because the variant wasn't in the shot and a lot of people died in the early spring of 2018.In the Netherlands 9400 people died because of the flu, although there were flu shots given since autumn 2017.

The difference with Covid is that Covid gives a longer stay on the ICU, depends on the variant of course and what now has come out that the spike protein attacks your veins, which causes the clots you get from this virus, but oops the vaccines gives the body the recipe to produce that spike protein.
 

Absolem

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Damn right I copy and paste................ From the best medical schools in the world............. You on the other hand copy and paste from the medical flakes of the world.......... See a difference? Didn't think so..........


Always nice that copy and paste from you, but ever looked to the symptoms between those two, there are some similarities like headaches, coughing, diarrhea, vomiting, etc.Even the highest peak of hospitalization is even at the same time.

Did the flu shot help in the winter of 2018?Nope because the variant wasn't in the shot and a lot of people died in the early spring of 2018.In the Netherlands 9400 people died because of the flu, although there were flu shots given since autumn 2017.

The difference with Covid is that Covid gives a longer stay on the ICU, depends on the variant of course and what now has come out that the spike protein attacks your veins, which causes the clots you get from this virus, but oops the vaccines gives the body the recipe to produce that spike protein.
 

mexcurandero420

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Damn right I copy and paste................ From the best medical schools in the world............. You on the other hand copy and paste from the medical flakes of the world.......... See a difference? Didn't think so..........

Depends what you see as flakes.Keep in mind that Chinese scientists already warned in 2015 that there were mutations going on in coronaviruses in bats which could cause a pandemic and the WHO at the other hand did nothing till it was to late.

In the interview with Korean Times in 2020 the US virologist Djaballah said even if we had a vaccine today, it won't work and when we take a look to the Seychelles where most people are vaccinated, you have outbreaks at the moment.In the Netherlands we're having outbreak in a nursery home where most people are vaccinated and even one died.In Brazil you have new mutations of the variants and also in India there are new mutations of the variants.

The UK is now dealing with the Indian variant in certain areas.What those mutations will lead to, is still the question.

There is a report published by the IPC and in this report mentioned there is an increase of 288% of death among the group of 20-29, who are vaccinated.

https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/the-isr...-report-on-the-lethal-impact-of-vaccinations/
 

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Look at all the commercials for lawsuits because of side effects from drugs that went through full fda trials the. Became recalled. Here take this experimental vaccine.... Also if it does have long lasting side effects you are taking it at your own risk because the manufacturer is going to be legally protected. It usually takes at least 7 years to make sure a medication is safe. Nobody knows the long term effects of this vaccine and they won’t for at least another 5 years . That is the sweet spot that long term side effects tend to manifest. Honestly if getting the vaccine makes you feel better go for it. It’s your body your choice. People that would shame others for not taking it or would like to see it become mandatory are the problem in my own humble opinion.
 
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