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Have You Been Vaccinated?

Have You Been Vaccinated?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 63 31.3%
  • No!

    Votes: 43 21.4%
  • Soon!

    Votes: 15 7.5%
  • No Way!

    Votes: 66 32.8%
  • I Just Wanna Watch!

    Votes: 14 7.0%

  • Total voters
    201

bigtacofarmer

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soon, no booster bingo jab needed ...

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in other words, this is a fucking man-made virus. now, just imagine if you will, you own body cells sprouting sars-cov-2 spike proteins constantly, and you have entered the twilight zone - oh, and say goodbye to your deltoids.

this is so fucked up ... and this is just the beginning ... more fun to follow as the $ start to amass.

Have you ever considered that if they were trying to kill us off they would come up with a more efficient method? If any powerful group was seriously making an effort to reduce the population for whatever reason, Think of how many more convenient ways they could do it.

​​​​​Right when this all started I was against any vaccination myself. Then I realized that every reason I could come up with for not getting it was a fictional idea about some boogie man conspiracy. And the whole time more and more people I know knew someone that died or was left with some permanent damage. I myself do not breathe as well as I said and after 6 months I have to wonder if my lungs will ever be as good as they used too. I am a healthy eater and stay in decent shape. Several miles on a bike almost every week. It still got me. Friends with permanent headaches or not able to smell.

Meanwhile every university and pharmaceutical company is sharing notes on vaccines they have been developing for several years. And it became so clear. Covid is the only boogie man trying to kill us. If any of these billionaire elites really wanted us all gone. We wouldn't be waiting to see what happens.

If I am to believe half of what some of the people here and other websites consider the truth I would come unglued.

All of our parents and grandparents lived through new vaccines. It is the first time something like this has happened in our lives. But far from the first time ever. The big difference is the political divide and the ability to quickly spread disinformation on social media.

I suppose all those other vaccines were a conspiracy too. Maybe we are all already zombie slaves that under control of the reptilian baby eaters. Look how many people work 60 hrs a week to barely survive. Oh shit. I bet they got there polio shot and now they can't think for themselves.

See what I'm saying.saying?

I can't base my life decisions on weather or not the illuminati is trying to get me. That is insanity.
 

Microbeman

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My 2nd Moderna Vax gave me about 15 hours of intense flu-like (minus nausea) symptoms, and poof, it was gone, and I was back at chores and projects (friend in the Yukon Territory told me she perceived that the more intense reactions at outset often equated to shorter lived symptoms, and I believe she was right).

My 3rd Moderna 'booster' had me experiencing closer to what my friends (she and her husband, both a few years older than me) in the Yukon Territory did with their second Moderna shots; about 3 days of malaise, fatigue, flu-like symptoms, minus nausea, etc.

But you know what? I FAR prefer that 3 days, even if it comes every 5-6 months, to drowning on pink paste in my lungs, or having a 9-hour surgery to have someone peel the destroyed lung tissue from my diaphragm lining in my abdominal cavity, yeah?

I now know (personally) 3 persons who've died from C-19 locally, and at least one of them was a C-19-denier, who changed his views of all things viral in his final days.

Alaska's now importing hundreds of nurses, PA's, Docs, etc. to address staffing shortages, the hospital in the Mat-Su has 14 ICU beds, but are now accommodating 20 C-19 ICU patients (you do the math), the local hospital in Fairbanks is converting meeting rooms into C-19 tx rooms, AND, less than proudly, as of yesterday, Alaska now leads the entire fucking nation in per capita infections.. In my opinion, largely due to the ignorance of the large body of seriously delusional Trump-supporters and our Governor's ignorance here.

Most of Alaska's hospitals are now on 'divert' status, meaning they are trying desperately to refer patients outside, but many places have stopped taking our folks.

There are days when I envision Slim Pickens in 'Dr. Strangelove', riding the A-bomb down like a horse at a rodeo, waving his cowboy hat as he exits the bomb bay doors of the B-52. "Are we there yet?"

It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine) - YouTube

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Mein Fuhrer I can walk!

 

Cannavore

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humans have a fatal flaw in their design. we don't give a shit about stuff until it personally effects us.... ie - becoming aware on your death bed you should have been vaccinated, climate change not mattering until your house is underwater, being anti gay until your son/daughter comes out of the closet, dying of cancer and then deciding they should quit cigs and eat healthier, etc etc etc.
 

moose eater

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humans have a fatal flaw in their design. we don't give a shit about stuff until it personally effects us.... ie - becoming aware on your death bed you should have been vaccinated, climate change not mattering until your house is underwater, being anti gay until your son/daughter comes out of the closet, dying of cancer and then deciding they should quit cigs and eat healthier, etc etc etc.

'We've' known for almost 100 years that preventative medicine costs ~15% of corrective medicine, and with a whole lot less suffering involved, but....
 

armedoldhippy

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Hey Walter,
Shouldn't be in a lab of Pfizer, it should be go down, but cases going up like mad man in the country of the big experiment of jabs.

"active" cases will go down as they are resolved, one way or another. the TOTAL number of cases aint going down, lol...you realize, i guess, that nearly ALL nations are trying to get their citizens vaccinated? it's not an "experiment'...
 

Chi13

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Regarding the Israel graph Mexcurandero presented. This is an Australian article so it's from that perspective but worth a read. Explains a lot about how vaccinations are still effective, why they are, and how the data should be interpreted.

Israel is struggling with COVID-19, despite high vaccination rates. What lessons can Australia learn?
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By health reporter Olivia Willis

Posted Thu 9 Sep 2021 at 5:00amThursday 9 Sep 2021 at 5:00am, updated Thu 9 Sep 2021 at 12:38pmThursday 9 Sep 2021 at 12:38pm
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ABC News: Phil Hemingway

Just a few months ago, Israel was the picture of COVID-19 vaccination success.
Key points:
  • Life in Israel returned to almost pre-COVID normal after an early uptake in the vaccines
  • However, that didn't last long, with case numbers rising again in late June
  • Booster shots offer hope, but there are lessons here for Australia
After an early and rapid rollout, and with the majority of its adult population fully vaccinated, Israel lifted virtually all COVID-19 restrictions — and life in the Middle Eastern nation returned to an almost pre-COVID normal.

With daily case numbers close to zero, businesses reopened, mass gatherings resumed, and face masks were eagerly discarded as people flocked to beaches and restaurants.

But the celebrations — and optimism that herd immunity had arrived — didn't last long.

By late June, case numbers began to climb, and they haven't stopped.

New daily infections reached an all-time high of 16,011 on September 1, surpassing peak numbers seen in January (during the country's second wave) by several thousand.

Rates of hospitalisations and ICU admissions are also increasing, with almost 1,100 people currently in hospital and nearly 700 considered "seriously ill".

Israel recently recorded the highest seven-day rolling average of COVID-19 cases per million people of any country in the world.

So why, in a nation with relatively high vaccination rates, are COVID-19 cases still surging?

And as Australia looks to reopen, what lessons can we learn?

Israel 'flung the doors open' just as Delta arrived

Israel shot to an early lead in the race to vaccinate, inoculating almost 80 per cent of its citizens aged 12 and over by June, the vast majority with the Pfizer vaccine.

With leaders confident they had conquered COVID-19 and the risk of it spreading, the country lifted virtually all movement restrictions and mask mandates.

"They completely dropped their guard," said Kim Mulholland, a paediatrician at the University of Melbourne and member of the WHO's Strategic Advisory Group of Experts on Immunization.

"There were lots of big gatherings, religious meetings, and all sorts of events that happened in June, in the middle of summer."
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​As infections waned in Israel, people were encouraged to go out and enjoy themselves.(

At the same time, the highly contagious Delta variant arrived on Israel's shores, first emerging in school-aged children and quickly spreading to their parents.

Leading infectious diseases expert Sharon Lewin said without any measures to control the Delta variant, it was difficult to stop chains of transmission, even with reasonably high rates of vaccination.

"What we've learned from [Israel], and what's consistent with the modelling … is that even at 80 per cent, you need to have some public health measures in place to contain transmission," said Professor Lewin, director of The Doherty Institute.
"Israel flung the door open at the time Delta hit, and once things take off and you've got very large numbers, it's very hard to bring that under control."​



While overall adult vaccination rates are high, there are pockets of Israel's population that remain unvaccinated, including some ultra-orthodox Jewish communities.

Making things more challenging is the fact that 25 per cent of Israel's population is younger than 12, meaning only 68 per cent of its whole population is fully vaccinated — a threshold too low to achieve herd immunity.

In mid-August, about 60 per cent of people hospitalised in Israelwith severe COVID-19 had received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.

The Israeli health ministry published a report suggesting the effectiveness of the vaccine in preventing severe disease had dropped from over 90 per cent to just 64 per cent.Almost everyone in Israel received the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine three weeks apart.

But this figure is misleading — and an example of a phenomenon in statistics called Simpson's paradox.

It's complicated, but essentially means that a trend that appears in several groups of data can disappear when those groups are combined.

When US researchers dug into the Israeli data and broke it up according to age groups, they found the vaccine was more than 90 per cent effective at preventing severe disease in people under 50, and more than 85 per cent effective in those over 50.

"When interpreting data, you can't just look at raw numbers," Professor Lewin said.

"In Israel, when you look at the age-adjusted numbers for vaccination, the chance of you being hospitalised if you're over 60 is reduced 40-fold if you're vaccinated compared to if you're unvaccinated."

She said the fact fully vaccinated people were still being hospitalised was a reflection of very high vaccination rates, and the fact that no vaccine is perfect.

"The benefit of vaccination is that it reduces your chance of hospitalisation and death by about 90 per cent, but it's not 100 per cent," Professor Lewin said.

"So there will still be people that get hospitalised and die, even if they're vaccinated."

Fortunately, the relative number of deaths from COVID-19 in Israel is much lower than it was during the country's second wave.

This pattern is being consistently observed around the world in countries with high vaccination rates.

That being said, Israeli authorities are concerned about the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines waning over time.

The majority of people suffering severe illness are over the age of 60 and received the COVID-19 vaccine at least five months ago.

"Most of the elderly in Israel were vaccinated with Pfizer, three weeks apart, back in January and February," Professor Lewin said.

"That's the other factor that's at play here. It's not just whether or not you were vaccinated; the time from vaccination seems to be important too."

Preliminary data suggests protection against symptomatic infection is reduced over time, with Israelis vaccinated in April and May appearing to have much better protection than those vaccinated back in January.
Vaccines greatly reduce the risk of infection and disease by harnessing the body's natural defences.

But it's difficult to tease out how much of this is a result of the vaccines themselves, and how much is influenced by the Delta variant, the relaxing of restrictions, and the health status of people vaccinated early on — many of whom had underlying medical conditions.

Importantly, the same data shows the vaccine continues to provide strong protection against severe disease and hospitalisation, said Professor Mulholland.

"Protection against severe disease seems to be more related to cellular immunity — T cell immunity specifically — and [protection] against infection, it's more related to neutralising antibodies," he said.

While neutralising antibodies decrease over time, protective immunity provided by memory T and B cells is expected to be long-lasting.

"So you might start to see waning [protection against infection], let's say after six months, but it may be that the protection against severe disease is going to be maintained for longer, even a year."

To try and tackle the surge of new COVID-19 cases, Israel has reintroduced some restrictions, including caps on public gatherings and masks in certain settings.

Health authorities have also begun to administer booster doses.

These were first rolled out to people over 60, and are now available to everyone over the age of 12 who received their second COVID-19 jab more than five months ago.

Professor Lewin said although booster shots seemed to provide a clear benefit to people over the age of 60 and immunosuppressed people, it wasn't clear yet whether they would be necessary for everyone.
"I think we've got to think really carefully about who we're giving a third dose [to], and why," she said.​



"The best thing to do is reduce the overall amount of COVID transmission across the world, and that's only going to happen when low and middle-income countries are vaccinated."

In August, the World Health Organization called for a temporary moratorium on booster shots by wealthier countries, in order to free up doses for countries where most people haven't even received one dose.

"If we really do need booster doses, I think we need a much more tailored approach," Professor Lewin said.

"So it might be people over 60 … or it might be that you measure a person's antibody response, you see it's low, and they get a dose."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2...alia/100442304
 

TNTBudSticker

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This cupping method, which a Russian colleague shows here, works only up to 30 minutes after vaccination, in any other case cupping is no longer sufficient ... but it is surprising how fast the blood clumps due to vaccination ... but it is also clear if you understand the biochemical mechanisms of the functioning of graphene oxides+spike proteins behind it. Again: it is not a virus, it is a bioweapon whose explosive nucleotide is transported via the spike protein using the gene scissors (CRISPR). For better transport, nanolipids are used which overcome the blood-brain barrier via the neurolipin-1 receptor.

https://communities.win/c/TheDonald/p/13zMwwnRCA/possible-way-to-remove-vax-after/c/
 

Gry

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This cupping method, which a Russian colleague shows here, works only up to 30 minutes after vaccination, in any other case cupping is no longer sufficient ... but it is surprising how fast the blood clumps due to vaccination ... but it is also clear if you understand the biochemical mechanisms of the functioning of graphene oxides+spike proteins behind it. Again: it is not a virus, it is a bioweapon whose explosive nucleotide is transported via the spike protein using the gene scissors (CRISPR). For better transport, nanolipids are used which overcome the blood-brain barrier via the neurolipin-1 receptor.

https://communities.win/c/TheDonald/p/13zMwwnRCA/possible-way-to-remove-vax-after/c/

What utter bunk, good lord have mercy. I would have been embarrassed to even post something of that nature.
 

Gry

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Denmark to lift all remaining Covid restrictions on 10 September


Health ministry says high level of vaccination means virus ‘no longer a critical threat to society’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e_iOSApp_Other

Denmark is to lift all its remaining Covid-19 restrictions by 10 September after the health ministry declared the virus “no longer a critical threat to society” because of the country’s high level of vaccination.

“The epidemic is under control, we have record vaccination levels,” the health minister, Magnus Heunicke, said in a statement on Friday. “That is why we can drop the special rules we had to introduce in the fight against Covid-19.”

He warned, however, that even if the country was “in a good place right now”, the epidemic was not over and the government would not hesitate to “act quickly if the pandemic once again threatens the essential functioning of society”.

Denmark is the EU’s third-most vaccinated country, according to Our World in Data, with 71% of the population having received two shots. Malta is on 80% and Portugal 73%. The UK has fully vaccinated 62% of its population.

Denmark’s seven-day rolling average of new coronavirus cases per million inhabitants stands at 167, slightly above the EU average of 149 but well below Britain’s figure of 492, according to the same online science publication.

The country was one of Europe’s first to impose a partial lockdown in March last year, closing schools and non-essential businesses and services. After tightening and relaxing anti-Covid measures throughout the pandemic, it was also one of the earliest to begin reopening, launching a “coronavirus passport” on 21 April this year.
Danish restaurants, bars, cinemas, gyms, sports stadiums and hairdressing salons have been open since that date for anyone who can prove that they are fully vaccinated, have a negative test result less than 72 hours old or contracted Covid within the past two to 12 weeks.
That requirement, already lifted from 1 August for some venues such as museums, will disappear for most others from 1 September, although a coronapas will still be needed for nightclubs and large events including football matches until 10 September.
The government’s decision not to extend its classification of Covid-19 as a “critical threat” to society beyond 10 September effectively removes the legal basis for the restrictions, a health ministry spokesman said.
Restrictions on travel into Denmark, however, will remain in force until at least October because they are covered by a separate agreement between the country’s governing parties that does not expire until a later date.
 

NEW ENGLAND

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Level one Trauma hospital here had to go on diversions , due to half the ER not having staff , nor other floors having enough staff.People are leaving their profession due to Joe's mandates.....oh well , bring in the refugees to assist.They're all being vaccinated , right ?
Good paying jobs with benefits right off the bat. 🇺🇸
 

Cannavore

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"where did muh seasonal flu go? once covid came around da flu disappeared hurp derp"


in your fucking mask, because they work.

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bigtacofarmer

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"where did muh seasonal flu go? once covid came around da flu disappeared hurp derp"


in your fucking mask, because they work.


You would think they would be smart enough to either buy disposable masks or wash the ones they have.

Kinda confirms they catch dangerous particles though.
 

Hammerhead

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I was just gonna say. Those parents are dumbasses for not tossing out dirty masks... Disposable masks are cheap.
 

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