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Harvest - Different ways to harvest, process and store. (Feel free to showcase your artisan methods!!!)

acespicoli

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Same, used to dry in front of a fan or AC unit clothes lines across the house or paper bags one the stems close to snapping. Really depends on your situation. This last two weeks is the first time in months the humidity has been below 75% 🤷‍♂️ def prefer the cool 60F and 45% RH

The plants dont seem to mind much either way, the occasional mold magnet you just can let go.... 😄
I dig my imperfect world, so new drying methods and long term storage methods will prevail :huggg:
Took some getting used to the weather patterns.

The cold highlands and the desert folks seem to have no issues
Coastal Maritime ...

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The effect of high drying temperatures on cannabinoids and terpenes requires further investigation. To minimize loss of volatile terpenes during heating, another method for cannabinoid and terpene preservation is freezing by sublimation, which takes 10 to 20 days.

As oxidation occurs with the presence of light, heat, and oxygen, degradation of major cannabinoids is minimized after drying by storage in cool and dark places. Fresh products must be stored between 1˚C and 5˚C and frozen products must be kept at −18˚C to −20˚C for long-term storage [21].

So is oxidation good or bad?

I've been trying to tell pot growers for half a century that their dreaded hay smell is hexanal, from linoleic acid, (from oleic acid), not chlorophyll.


So oxidation bad? No, because hexanal is broken down into hexanoic acid, the precursor to the major cannabinoids and many Cannabis esters.

So why the hell is the cannabis industry acting like they are concerned with preserving isolated test tube cannabinoids and bullshit children Tylenol terps in a lab setting?

In the real world, with properly grown medicinal grade cannabis, hexanoic acid is being produced, post harvest, just as fast as thc is breaking down, or faster. In any acceptable crop, the quality is determined by fatty acid and protein content. The same way soil health is measured. Cannabis is not any different. Every useful Cannabis metabolite is the result of organic acid oxidation that continues long after harvest.

Hydroponic growers don't understand that, as they completely missed the narrative behind "pharmaceutical grade" inputs; organic acid chelated nutrients, not nitrate and sulfate crap. They wanted to look like drug labs without having any basic understanding of drug chemistry. (The only sulfur your plant needs is cysteine, methionine and glutathione, and the only way sulfur is being utilized by cannabis is by degradation of those aminos/peptide..

Growing weed in the 2020s is like cooking meth in the 1990s. You supply ephedrine, the lab techs still think they need to convert it from pseudofed. My role in the drug world is apparently to be dumbfounded by incompetence of drug producers,who insist on waste and poor quality rather than a basic 6th grade understanding of drug chemistry.

How many times do we have to hear the Ganjier-Curaleaf-GW-Jazz crew proclaim cough syrup to be an enjoyable flavor, before we catch on to the agenda? Every decent producer is behind bars or NDAed by the DEA, no compete clauses tied up with pharma giants.

Tldr

Organic acid metabolism is all that matters in Cannabis. What's the difference between linoleum flooring and thc? Chemistry. They both come from linoleic acid.

Quite literally, no one growing Cannabis in America is qualified, as they readily produce plastic toxins through total ignorance of organic drug chemistry. The Marijuana plant is a drug lab. Federal regulations will reflect that. The FDA has been presented with a solid case that Xanax dealing Instagram models should not be involved with legal drug production.
 

acespicoli

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So is oxidation good or bad?
Conceptually, the oxidation state may be positive, negative or zero.


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Would recommend we slow down and address one single aspect at a time.


In chemistry, the oxidation state, or oxidation number, is the hypothetical charge of an atom if all of its bonds to other atoms were fully ionic. It describes the degree of oxidation (loss of electrons) of an atom in a chemical compound. Conceptually, the oxidation state may be positive, negative or zero. Beside nearly-pure ionic bonding, many covalent bonds exhibit a strong ionicity, making oxidation state a useful predictor of charge.



Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called ‘woman,’
for she was taken out of man.”
24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.



Oxidation can be prevented by controlling the environmental conditions that favor it.
Here are some ways to prevent oxidation:

  • Reduce oxygen
    Use inert gases like nitrogen to replace air in storage containers. You can also use vacuum sealing to remove air from a container. Nitrogen ?

  • Lower the temperature
    Lowering the temperature can slow down oxidation by reducing the activity of enzymes and microorganisms that catalyze it.
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    Figure 1. Biosynthesis of phytocannabinoid acids in Cannabis begins with a common precursor called olivetolic acid that then undergoes a series of enzymatic transformations. When exposed to heat, the phytocannabinoid acids readily decarboxylate into their neutral forms.

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acespicoli

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So is oxidation good or bad?

I've been trying to tell pot growers for half a century that their dreaded hay smell is hexanal, from linoleic acid, (from oleic acid), not chlorophyll.
You make some good points
So oxidation bad? No, because hexanal is broken down into hexanoic acid, the precursor to the major cannabinoids and many Cannabis esters.
The Marijuana plant is a drug lab.
Many COB makers growers of Malawi etc say they are able to improve the cannabinoid profiles,
You have made many excellent observations and comments that lend scientific facts to post harvest processing.

Hope you share more of your harvest wisdom
Thanks for sharing :huggg:
 

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SHWALE’s High-Yield Hash Strains: Farmhouse Studio Genetics


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At the heart of SHWALE’s innovative journey is the Farmhouse Studio, a name that has become synonymous with pioneering genetics breeding, especially for hash production. We had the pleasure of meeting the masterminds behind Farmhouse Studio at the Smoking Jacket event in Portland, Oregon, in 2023. Their booth was a hub of activity, complete with a dab station and an array of macro photographs that were as informative as they were beautiful. They showcased their expertise by providing full melt samples from their extensive genetic lines, a dream come true for any hash producer. We were particularly impressed with their papaya strain, which we plan to incorporate into our hugel garden for the next season.

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Delving into SHWALE’s World: A Fusion of Artistic Photography and Specialized Cannabis Breeding

SHWALE’s world is where the beauty of cannabis is not just captured through the lens but is also cultivated and refined in the genetics lab of Farmhouse Studio. Their cannabis macro photography is more than just art; it’s a gateway to understanding the intricate beauty of cannabis strains that have been meticulously bred for their resin potential. Each photograph in their collection is a testament to the unique characteristics that Farmhouse Studio’s strains possess, highlighting the vibrant colors and textures that make their high-yielding hash strains so exceptional.

As SHWALE themselves state, “We’ve been non-stop growing for 12 years, 10 years solventless, 5 years breeding. We started breeding with mainly longstalks and shortstalks in mind for hash and flower.” This dedication is evident in their pursuit of perfection in hash strain development.

Farmhouse Studio: A Cradle for High-Resin Cannabis Genetics

Farmhouse Studio stands as a beacon of innovation in the cannabis genetics field. The team’s relentless pursuit of excellence has led to the creation of strains that are not just visually stunning but are genetically engineered to maximize hash yield. Their breeding practices are a blend of time-honored horticulture and avant-garde genetic research, resulting in a catalog of cannabis strains that are specifically designed for hash production.

Explaining their approach, SHWALE shares:
trichome weak neck trait

Conservation Through Cultivation: SHWALE’s Genetic Preservation Efforts

SHWALE’s work extends beyond breeding for yield; it’s also about preserving the genetic tapestry of cannabis. Each strain developed at Farmhouse Studio is a living library of genetic information, safeguarded through sustainable breeding practices. This dedication to genetic preservation is crucial in maintaining the diversity and vitality of cannabis strains, ensuring that the full spectrum of their potential can be explored and enjoyed by future generations.

Cultivating More Than Plants: SHWALE’s Community Engagement

The vision of SHWALE transcends the realms of photography and genetics; it’s about nurturing a community where knowledge about high-yielding hash strains is shared and celebrated. Through educational initiatives and interactive events, SHWALE fosters a space for enthusiasts to connect and expand their understanding of cannabis cultivation, particularly focusing on the nuances of breeding for hash production.
In essence, SHWALE and Farmhouse Studio are at the forefront of a movement that marries the aesthetic appreciation of cannabis with the scientific pursuit of breeding superior hash strains. Their work not only showcases the splendor of cannabis in microscopic detail but also propels the industry forward with strains that promise both beauty and bounty.
SHWALE elaborates on their latest developments, “Our newest line Diamond Glands, is showing the abscission trait. More info on this drop will be coming soon.”
Here’s to SHWALE and Farmhouse Studio: where the quest for the perfect hash strain is an art form, a science, and a tribute to the natural wonders of cannabis genetics.
 

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Legends of Hashish II Winners​

Rosin

1st: Professor Sift – Honey Bananas

2nd: Mega Raw Melts – Zenith

3rd: Secret Society Hash Co. – Zapaya

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Melt

1st: Ice House Melts – Zhishkaberry

2nd: Quality Squishes – Rainbow Beltz 2.0

3rd: Gold Country Resin – Durban Sherbert

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Who will join the winner’s circle this year? See you in LA in December to find out…

He discusses three main variables for yield:

  1. Trichome density & number of trichomes
  2. Structure (shape of the trichomes as well as bud structure)
  3. Tactile feel and consistency of the trichomes when rubbed on the plant between day 45 and harvest time
I would add this incredibly important variable:

4. Light conditions (indoor vs outdoor, sun grown flowers are known to have higher terpene content)

For me the standout quote in the article is:

Now, if you have dense trichome growth, a perfect trichome structure for washing with a weak-neck trait and large, bulbous thin, waxy cuticle head, AND you feel gritty sand-like consistency, you have found a washer!
Nikka T
That is a loaded paragraph to deconstruct:

  • Weak-neck trait – refers to trichomes that have a small connection between the stock and the head
  • Bulbous thin, waxy cuticle – this describes the ‘shell’ of the trichome head. You want a thin head to decrease overall wax content in the hash. This is particularly important when making rosin carts.
  • Gritty sand-like consistency – I completely agree with this sentiment. “Sand-like” hash is so much easier to work with than “greasy” feeling hash. Greasy hash tends to smear and clog your extraction bags, unlike sandy hash which comes off clean.
Once you have found some washers, you just need to assemble a menu of flavours. Make sure you have at least one good “gas” strain and a “fruit” profile in your rotation at all times.

Which Strains Work Well for Solventless Extraction?​

There are phenotype specific differences that will influence yield, but overall there are certain trends when it comes to washing. This is not an exhaustive list but a good starting point.

Strains that Wash:
https://www.icmag.com/.


Strains that Typically Don’t Wash

  • Many OG varieties
  • Pink Kush
  • Bubba
  • Girl Scout Cookies
  • Rockstar
  • Many old school Kush varieties
  • Blue Dream


The Jar Test​

The jar test is a great way to approximate solventless yield without having to wash a large amount of material ($$$). Simply put 20-40 g fresh frozen material in a jar with ice and water. Shake it up like crazy for 5 min and allow the trichomes to settle to the bottom. Over time you will get a feel for what a good yield looks like, but for starters you should have at minimum a heaping teaspoon’s worth of trichomes at the bottom of the jar. Below are some mids that had pretty awful yields.

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