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Hammerhead

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Vanilla Phoenix

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I grow in Happy Frog and started having deficiencies months back. I checked the runoff and The pH was low, like below 6.0. The feed I’m putting in is pHd to 6.5.

So what I did was I kept raising the pH of my feed until the runoff was 6.3. So now my feed pH is 7.4. Been doing that for months now and the plants love it.

I know you shouldn’t have to do this but ya gotta do what you gotta do.

Also, I only do this with vegging plants including moms. For flower I immediately feed with a pH of 6.6 and everything is great.

Been running fox farm soils for years so I know if the pH is too low the first symptom is always Mg deficiency. If the pH is too high, first symptom there is Zinc.
 

Hammerhead

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I grow in Happy Frog and started having deficiencies months back. I checked the runoff and The pH was low, like below 6.0. The feed I’m putting in is pHd to 6.5.

So what I did was I kept raising the pH of my feed until the runoff was 6.3. So now my feed pH is 7.4. Been doing that for months now and the plants love it.

I know you shouldn’t have to do this but ya gotta do what you gotta do.

Also, I only do this with vegging plants including moms. For flower I immediately feed with a pH of 6.6 and everything is great.

Been running fox farm soils for years so I know if the pH is too low the first symptom is always Mg deficiency. If the pH is too high, first symptom there is Zinc.

I asked Foxfarm this is there reply .

Thank you for contacting FoxFarm, I’m happy to help!
Receiving an accurate picture of the pH of soil can be very difficult. We do not recommend testing the soil pH by testing runoff or placing the probe directly into the soil. The pH buffers in our soils, such as oyster shell, will not register on your pH meter if you are testing the runoff or if you just place your pH meter in the soil. The oyster shell works as a pH adjustor once it comes in contact with water.

Make sure that you have a relatively new pH meter that is clean and calibrated according to the manual instructions. If you are testing for soil pH, we recommend that you perform a soil slurry test, as described below. This ensures that all of the pH adjustors within the soil work properly and register on your pH meter. It is important to note that the used soil may have a different pH than the new soil from the bag due to the pH of the irrigation water.

How to Perform an At-Home Soil Slurry Test to Determine Soil pH

Some gardeners like to be able to check the pH of their soil. Since actual soil pH can be difficult to determine without expensive lab equipment, we recommend a slurry test to determine the pH of your soil. Soil slurries provide a pH of the slurry, not the soil, and is used as an indicator of the soil pH. The soil slurry pH will be more acidic than the actual soil pH, which is to be expected. We recommend two slurries:

• A 1:1 slurry – mix 1 part soil to 1 part distilled water (by volume)

• A 1:5 slurry - mix 1 part soil to 5 parts distilled water (by volume)

• Thoroughly mix these slurries and allow them to sit for about 15 minutes

• Next, check the pH of the slurry with litmus paper, liquid indicator dye, or a digital pH meter

The 1:1 slurry of (SOIL NAME) should have a pH of OF: 5.0-6.2 HF: 5.0-6.3

• The 1:5 slurry of (SOIL NAME) should have a pH of OF: 5.6-6.7 HF: 5.6-6.6 CL:6.0-6.7 LW: 6.00-6.60



If pH values of the slurries are in the ranges provided above, you can assume that the pH of your soil is in the 6.3-6.8 range

* These pH ranges are based off our testing, which is done with tap water. Your municipal tap water may be different from ours, so your pH may be different as well.

If your soil pH is not within the correct range according to the soil slurry then you may want to adjust your soil. Dolomitic limestone will raise your pH and soil sulfur can lower the pH. Be sure to follow the manufacturer’s directions and water thoroughly after adding a pH adjustor so that it will be activated. If your pH is outside of the ideal range, your plants will not be able to take up nutrients and you will want to wait to fertilize the soil until the adjustor has taken effect. This can take up to 30 days. However, you can supplement with foliar fertilizers during that time regardless of the soil pH.


They're saying if the Slurry PH tests in the 5-6.3 range it's good. We can assume that the pH of your soil is in the 6.3-6.8 range.

For you if the slurry of happy frog ph tests in the range 5.0-6.3 its good
 
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grayeyes

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? This is a cannabis forum lol. FYI this isn't a commercial grow. If you didn't know Cannabis is legal in more states in the USA than not. Ive been posting here long before it was legal lol. Any icmag members posting in illegal states have nothing to worry about.


If your that Paranoid why are you here LMAO :plant grow:
Hammerhead is an appropriate handle. 300 square feet growing for "personal use"? I wouldn't post anything like that. Even legal states have limits.
 

Hammerhead

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Hammerhead is an appropriate handle. 300 square feet growing for "personal use"? I wouldn't post anything like that. Even legal states have limits.

We have a troll lol... 300 SQF is tiny. I need 50sqf just for 1 plant. Why are you so paranoid about my grow . What I do has no effect on you. Go troll someone else lol. I DON'T GIVE A RATS ASS WHAT YOU WOULD DO. This is my thread, not yours. I'll post whatever suits me. The 1st thing you come up with is how much SQF I'm using and if it's legal WTF. Is this your attempt to get some attention lol?. Why some want to create drama ill never understand. The Mental issues going on today are a huge problem. Piss off.
 
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RoostaPhish

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Yeah, fox farm has been having issues like this for years now. Different regions seem to be experiencing in at different times. I was a die hard FF user until about 10 years ago. Started having all sorts of issues, ph, still hot, smelling heavy of pine, infested, and even bought some bags that when I opened they were covered in blue mold. I think demand became so big at one point that quality went way down hill. Bagging the soil before it is aged.
 

Hammerhead

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I haven't used FFOF in forever lol. I wanted to see if I could prevent any PH swings with a medium that has a buffered PH over 6. I was using Promix HP for over 10 years. I cant use FFOF as is. Ill have to add some lime to bring up the PH to at least 6.


What I'm confused about is that even with a soil ph of 5 my plants are not showing any issues. My feed is PH6.5. It always buffers down to 5. That is way to low.
 

Hammerhead

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There are not that many left that grew up in the 60-70s. All will be gone in 20 years. It takes time to find the really exceptional phenos. Haze genetics carry the best possible chance to find them. They are not easy to grow and keep happy for 3-4 months. Not many have tried the quality I'm referring to. Heres some more from NH X OH.
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Hammerhead

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I will be making my version of a Sativa Chemdawg. I'll be using the Neviles haze x Orginal Haze and the App Superskunk Mom in this project. Below are some im looking for a killer Afgh mom.
Afghan in the raw
Stardawg x Sour Bubble

I have some of these being made now. Ill be looking for males in these as well.
NH x OH x THH x A5 hazebx x Mac
NH x OH x White Truffle x A5 hazebx x Mac
 
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pipeline

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Excellent work here Hammerhead! Those hazes are a bit out of control. :smoke:

Glad to see you're tackling that project, like Tom Hill pointed out. Lots of good keepers in those types of hybrids.

On The Potcast, Tom Hill was making sure to place emphasis on using truebreding mostly homozygous parents in the cross to get the highest level of heterozygocity and hybrid vigor. Once at the F2 stage there is more diversity and thats where better plants may pop up. Think that gives you a good chance to find the more potent plants.

'Marijuana Botany' By Robert Clark was recommended reading, they have a section on genetics Tom was referring to that had more information.

Where did you get the Appalachian Superskunk? Is that an IBL.

I have Sterling Skunk IBL as well as Early Skunk x Lebanese I'm wanting to run soon, and had some interest in that Appalachain skunk. Go for it! Thanks.
 
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