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Drumskinz
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Had it been a normal NYS fall I would have had to harvest them maybe 2 to 3 weeks earlier due to cold but more important than that lots of clammy “RAIN” luck of the draw I guess…I posted up some MAC1 pics in Star’s MAC1 diary thread that were growing right next to the Toxic Truffle plants
I couldn't find that thread. I found your Mac1 thread very nice MAC1.
Drumskinz
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Here’s the link
Diary - {{{MAC#1}}} Capulator Clone
have a new run all set up this will be a good way of keeping track …
www.icmag.com
Trying to figure out what project I should do next I think ill be popping some Purest Indica to hunt for males I can use in some projects. I think this will pair well with my Destiny f1 keeper and possibly APPSS. Here is the info on this strain..
The "Purest Indica" is the original variety of the Northern Lights line. It was first acquired in 1979 by Seattle Greg through the author Murphy Stevens as "Purest Indica" and became the backbone of all of the Northern Lights hybrids.
Seattle Greg told me that after he got the seeds from Murphy Stevens, he inbred them and passed the seeds he made around to his friends who crossed it with their seed stock and created what is now known as the Northern Lights line of #1 through #11. The #1 is closest to this original "Purest Indica" and the #11 is the most tropical and furthest from this "Purest Indica".
The "Purest Indica" is the original variety of the Northern Lights line. It was first acquired in 1979 by Seattle Greg through the author Murphy Stevens as "Purest Indica" and became the backbone of all of the Northern Lights hybrids.
Seattle Greg told me that after he got the seeds from Murphy Stevens, he inbred them and passed the seeds he made around to his friends who crossed it with their seed stock and created what is now known as the Northern Lights line of #1 through #11. The #1 is closest to this original "Purest Indica" and the #11 is the most tropical and furthest from this "Purest Indica".
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HK...
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BOG AFGH
APPSS
Destiny f1
APPSS
Destiny f1
ICC jbeezy cut
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The frost won't stop from here on..
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BOG SLS. This pheno is totally crusted with resin. I can't wait to sample some of this.. Maybe 1 more week.
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Destiny F1... The HLG led def yellows with tip burn more than the Mars led does. Same feed but with much less under the Mars. It's noticeable. These are both under HLG
Im gonna have to try a reveg on the bogbubble.. I was trying s different Mycohazel brand and it nearly killed a few moms in veg. Most of the smaller plants were also effected. NOT HAPPY AT ALL.!!!..
This is the product I used.. do not use this ..
Myco Bliss (Powder, 5 lb) Concentrated Mycorrhizal Fungi Inoculant - Root Enhancer for Plants
I have been testing some Oreoz x Sherbcake so I've been inspecting them well once flowering started. Today I found Nanners on 1 of the pants. I started just 2 seeds. One has a much more OG structure, less branching with wider nodal spacing. She is still OK... The 2nd plant has better branching and less nodal spacing a more compact plant. She is the herm.. I found a few of these... I will cull this plant..
This is the product I used.. do not use this ..
Myco Bliss (Powder, 5 lb) Concentrated Mycorrhizal Fungi Inoculant - Root Enhancer for Plants
I have been testing some Oreoz x Sherbcake so I've been inspecting them well once flowering started. Today I found Nanners on 1 of the pants. I started just 2 seeds. One has a much more OG structure, less branching with wider nodal spacing. She is still OK... The 2nd plant has better branching and less nodal spacing a more compact plant. She is the herm.. I found a few of these... I will cull this plant..
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I've pulled out the big guns. I'm trying to figure out what was used to make the Northern lights line. From what I understand Purest indica was half of the puzzle. I don't know what the other half used to create NL..
Purest indica x ????? =NL ....... NL X a5=NL5H
So for my project, this is what I came up with. This is a long project.
(A5 haze s1) x ( App Super Skunk x Purest Indica )
Purest indica x ????? =NL ....... NL X a5=NL5H
So for my project, this is what I came up with. This is a long project.
(A5 haze s1) x ( App Super Skunk x Purest Indica )
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I know that pack of seeds well. I have some sitting myself. (A5s1)
I haven't listened to the TomHill episodes of the PotCast - think they were subscription only and I'm on a rice and beans life style currently, so my ears will remain deprived for the time being.
I've been watching the "Purest Indica" stuff on IG. Not sure what to think about Todd. How sincere he is and how dedicated he is to the plant vs just being another well connected seed mill, like Bodhi. (no offense intended, I've always held that opinion and the Berner collab just cracks me up to no end because it just speaks VOLUMES)
I'm interested in what you find in that old line. Good luck!!!
PERSONALLY - your next project, when working with such pure gene pools, I'd suggest you at least do some personal stash of your haziest x your best indica and visa versa. Inbred reciprocal cross. Then let that be your P1 BEFORE you add anything else into the equation.
Go the route you already are, just make yourself the PUREST true F1 hybrid you can for the stash.
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My BH7 x A5(r) cut - IS a commercially viable haze. It came from KG and Yo Sammy's efforts. Same as the beans you just started. Very special stuff to be found in those beans. Seed lottery, you know the deal.
I don't know about things out where you are, but due to Piff Coast Farms - the haze revival is full blown and the east coast is on a different tick these days. There is some form of haze in so many gardens these days, it's only a matter of time before more excellent examples surface.
Holy Communion, via Piff Coast - is the closest thing I have encountered that has a true new school commercial structure and look, that still retains the old school piff profiles. The flower I sampled was selected by Masonic Seeds - and I have some seeds from his selection x Wilson!.
It interesting how much is going on these days...stuff is blowing up and everyone is a grower...LOL...
dank.Frank
I haven't listened to the TomHill episodes of the PotCast - think they were subscription only and I'm on a rice and beans life style currently, so my ears will remain deprived for the time being.
I've been watching the "Purest Indica" stuff on IG. Not sure what to think about Todd. How sincere he is and how dedicated he is to the plant vs just being another well connected seed mill, like Bodhi. (no offense intended, I've always held that opinion and the Berner collab just cracks me up to no end because it just speaks VOLUMES)
I'm interested in what you find in that old line. Good luck!!!
PERSONALLY - your next project, when working with such pure gene pools, I'd suggest you at least do some personal stash of your haziest x your best indica and visa versa. Inbred reciprocal cross. Then let that be your P1 BEFORE you add anything else into the equation.
Go the route you already are, just make yourself the PUREST true F1 hybrid you can for the stash.
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My BH7 x A5(r) cut - IS a commercially viable haze. It came from KG and Yo Sammy's efforts. Same as the beans you just started. Very special stuff to be found in those beans. Seed lottery, you know the deal.
I don't know about things out where you are, but due to Piff Coast Farms - the haze revival is full blown and the east coast is on a different tick these days. There is some form of haze in so many gardens these days, it's only a matter of time before more excellent examples surface.
Holy Communion, via Piff Coast - is the closest thing I have encountered that has a true new school commercial structure and look, that still retains the old school piff profiles. The flower I sampled was selected by Masonic Seeds - and I have some seeds from his selection x Wilson!.
It interesting how much is going on these days...stuff is blowing up and everyone is a grower...LOL...
dank.Frank
I know that pack of seeds well. I have some sitting myself. (A5s1)
I haven't listened to the TomHill episodes of the PotCast - think they were subscription only and I'm on a rice and beans life style currently, so my ears will remain deprived for the time being.
I've been watching the "Purest Indica" stuff on IG. Not sure what to think about Todd. How sincere he is and how dedicated he is to the plant vs just being another well connected seed mill, like Bodhi. (no offense intended, I've always held that opinion and the Berner collab just cracks me up to no end because it just speaks VOLUMES)
I'm interested in what you find in that old line. Good luck!!!
PERSONALLY - your next project, when working with such pure gene pools, I'd suggest you at least do some personal stash of your haziest x your best indica and visa versa. Inbred reciprocal cross. Then let that be your P1 BEFORE you add anything else into the equation.
Go the route you already are, just make yourself the PUREST true F1 hybrid you can for the stash.
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My BH7 x A5(r) cut - IS a commercially viable haze. It came from KG and Yo Sammy's efforts. Same as the beans you just started. Very special stuff to be found in those beans. Seed lottery, you know the deal.
I don't know about things out where you are, but due to Piff Coast Farms - the haze revival is full blown and the east coast is on a different tick these days. There is some form of haze in so many gardens these days, it's only a matter of time before more excellent examples surface.
Holy Communion, via Piff Coast - is the closest thing I have encountered that has a true new school commercial structure and look, that still retains the old school piff profiles. The flower I sampled was selected by Masonic Seeds - and I have some seeds from his selection x Wilson!.
It interesting how much is going on these days...stuff is blowing up and everyone is a grower...LOL...
dank.Frank
The THH potcast is free. Clink the links.
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Im pretty privet these days. Most people are not the same anymore. Ego and petty kid BS have taken over. Im just not into the games people play.. I don't take in many clones anymore. The really good stuff has to be made in house for it to ever be in my garden. I'm not gonna bother with other people's clones any longer. I don't pay much attention to what others are doing these days. Sometimes I will get some hyped seeds in to test but nothing is ever next level good. Most are way too unstable. I have some of Karmas BH7 x A5 as well. As for todd, his story regarding PI is why I got them. From what I understand he remade PI from seeds given to him by Seattle Greg? I wouldn't call PI seeds hyped. I've not seen or know anyone growing them out. The project above would be my end goal. It all depends on what phenos I find. None may be good enough other than the AppSS. I like how I do things so gonna stay on that path.
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There is a lot of lost value in doing a true (a x b) x (b x a) for a ab P1 line. The idea, is to make sure you have all sets of possible gene traits available in both parents, so they actually recombine vs deviate. This is used in commercial agriculture and animal breeding all the time, to increase stability when sorting hybrids.
We've been doing it wrong, the entire time. Me too. All of us. What we do works...sure. It could work better.
I wasn't suggesting you take in clones, only letting you know, if the seed lottery hits for you, and you have the a5s1, then I know you had the others too. You should hunt them. Very interesting and some very good flower in those beans. All I was trying to say. I've seen enough haze and smoked enough legit Cuban Black at this point, to understand the values.
TomHill did the Deep Chunk x Haze F2 ie Monkey Haze line for a reason. Was merely suggesting you consider doing the same for YOUR OWN PERSONAL hunts. Hybrid vigor, is a real thing and it's very uncommon within the cannabis gene pool. We deal with a lot of inbreeding depression within the modern gene pool, and we are still getting plants that give 3-4lbs a light now. It's just all generic now. I see you chasing a path that would allow you to experience - a ton of variation, but also, some true winners, from an agronomic prospective.
Good vibes, dude. Back to the beat of your own drum.
dank.Frank
We've been doing it wrong, the entire time. Me too. All of us. What we do works...sure. It could work better.
I wasn't suggesting you take in clones, only letting you know, if the seed lottery hits for you, and you have the a5s1, then I know you had the others too. You should hunt them. Very interesting and some very good flower in those beans. All I was trying to say. I've seen enough haze and smoked enough legit Cuban Black at this point, to understand the values.
TomHill did the Deep Chunk x Haze F2 ie Monkey Haze line for a reason. Was merely suggesting you consider doing the same for YOUR OWN PERSONAL hunts. Hybrid vigor, is a real thing and it's very uncommon within the cannabis gene pool. We deal with a lot of inbreeding depression within the modern gene pool, and we are still getting plants that give 3-4lbs a light now. It's just all generic now. I see you chasing a path that would allow you to experience - a ton of variation, but also, some true winners, from an agronomic prospective.
Good vibes, dude. Back to the beat of your own drum.
dank.Frank
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I'm not into anything on a commercial scale. All that stuff is beyond my abilities with the space I have. Just an old man doing what I love. With such a small seed lot of A5hs1 and B7XA5 to select from I work with what I find. The odds are not great ill find something next level. I'll take some luck any day lol. I think I can make something good, time will tell.There is a lot of lost value in doing a true (a x b) x (b x a) for a ab P1 line. The idea, is to make sure you have all sets of possible gene traits available in both parents, so they actually recombine vs deviate. This is used in commercial agriculture and animal breeding all the time, to increase stability when sorting hybrids.
We've been doing it wrong, the entire time. Me too. All of us. What we do works...sure. It could work better.
I wasn't suggesting you take in clones, only letting you know, if the seed lottery hits for you, and you have the a5s1, then I know you had the others too. You should hunt them. Very interesting and some very good flower in those beans. All I was trying to say.
Good vibes, dude. Back to the beat of your own drum.
dank.Frank
Yeah, me either. I just go very very lucky with the plant I got from the BH7 x A5.
My main goals are just to enjoy what I have and to find some consistency within my cycles. Make use of what I have before me and hope I use it intelligently.
Not all of us can do a pheno hunt with 15 seeds and have that #22 be a banger. (or whatever Berner said) ... lolz
dank.Frank
My main goals are just to enjoy what I have and to find some consistency within my cycles. Make use of what I have before me and hope I use it intelligently.
Not all of us can do a pheno hunt with 15 seeds and have that #22 be a banger. (or whatever Berner said) ... lolz
dank.Frank
I don't follow any of those guys on IG. Cookies blocked me when I asked some questions about the cuts they were using. My questions were not out of line just normal questions. That told me all I needed to know.
The projects I made using karmas A5hbx have all been awesome. Destiny F1( Gorilla butter f2 X A5hbx x Mac) is my fav plant. Her terps are skunky, chem, Diesel. I love her stink lol. I love Karma's work. I made Destiny F2 but those turned out to be unstable so will be used for pheno hunting. Using haze in outcrosses has produce better plants than just pure haze at least from what I've grown. Everything has become better with haze added.
Destiny F1 under HLG diablo. Plants yellow a lot more under this LED vs Mars. Shes a killer plant. I would guess 80/20 NLD.
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Something else I've been working on that has some real promise. HK x Destiny F1. I'll know more as she matures. Also mostly NLD. She is pretty slow growing. The flowers are not bulking up much.
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