Half Ounce of Good Rocky

[Chamba]

they don't put hardeners in it...they use bonding agents and pressure (and sometimes heat) to form the mix into something resembling "hash"

dense, dry, hard hash usually indicates a high % of non-active veg matter (and other shite)

this is the lowest grade of hash....do a search here and you will be able to locate a method to clean this crap which is full of contaminants, fillers, bonding agents, powdered leaf and a small amount of actual resin..it involves grinding up the crap then soaking/rinsing the hash in water several times to help dissolve the water soluble muck they press into it as well as scoop out the floating veg matter and the resin will sink to the bottom....you'll end up with a block of hash that will be alot cleaner, healthier but really smaller in size, then you can really see what you just paid for

..if it's really good, you'll be able to recover about a gram of mostly immature heads from that quarter oz deal you just bought for 30 quid - it is an expensive quarter now isnt it?...in reality, you just paid 30 pound for a gram below average hash!..lol..and you thought you were getting a bargain...

buying low grade contaminated hash ('roccy, soap etc) is simply false economy

life is too short to smoke bad hash

 

[Chamba]

a match head or two worth of good hash will get you higher than a gram of soap or roccy.....fact

but then again, perhaps the smokers in the UK are getting what they deserve?

99% of hash smokers in the UK smoke this low grade crap hash mixed in with..(and it's about as strong as fan leaves ....and that's if it's really good!..seriously!) ..at least one cigarette mixed in with half a gram of UK hash...they must get off on the nicotine (cos it cant be the hash they're smoking!)....one hit on a joint of decent bud will send the average UK soap hash smoker into a THC coma for a week..

no-one smokes that low grade shit in a pipe cos it would burn a hole in the back of your throat before you got high..lol ...if the UK smokers gave up the habit of mixing copious amounts of cig tobacco in joints and started smoking hash by itself in bongs and pipes then I bet the market would get smart and demand better quality hash..you know, stuff that actually gets you high.

if you are addicted to nictotine and feel you have to add it to joints then stop using cigarette tobacco today as it's stale shit thats full of chemicals (much like a Big Mac and fries) and is produced to be smoked through a filter ..instead use a mild rolling tobacco to mix in with your jays....most rolling tobaccos contain less chemicals and are selected/produced to be smoked unfiltered....rolling tobacco smokers have lower cancer rates than packaged cigarette smokers, though emphysema among roll your own smokers is more common.

 

[4iiii'z]

but then again, perhaps the smokers in the UK are getting what they deserve?

what Chamba ?

supply & demand
the world cant make enough pot to keep Britain stoned

(*)^(*)

 

[BOZWELL]

I call it cack bar
even good solid is shit!..but like you say beggars cant be chosers I dabble in thw stuff rom time to time ,it ok to eat

 

[Dr. D]

lol...It gets called Dog Bar around here, i havent smoked that shit in years.
Smoking that shit is hazardous to your health big time.
Dont smoke it and dont buy it!! Us homegrowers have nearly stopped the soap bar market..

 

[wardyleb]

Around 15 years ago or more you get VERY good hash in the UK. In the 70's/80's i used to get the best Red/gold leb as well as VERY good afghan/indian black. Morrocan hash was good, but always 3rd to the lebs & blacks.

In the late 80's red-leb was no-more, and black was harder to come by (used to get red/gold seal black).

Then a thing called "black morrocan" came in. It was just medium quality rocky(morocan) with things added to it to make it "dark", to try con people that it was better than it was. THis was ok, but it lead to the SOAP bar. People who don't toke, just want to make cash buy this stuff, mix it with all types of shite, engine oil, wax, shit, painkillers(thats the high) all types of shit. The young kids just don't know any better because they haven't had any REAL hash (unless they where around before it went bad). Very rarely will some decent hash come around, normaly from a toker who knows whats what and brings in back himself.

I'm lucky enough to have monthly work in holland, thats the only time i get real hash (even then you have to be carefull and look at what your buying). Otherwise i just grow my own. Bubble/ice hash is nice & strong, but it just doesn't have the taste that good imported hash has. Ever smoked Red-leb or nep black?, nothing like it.

just my two pence worth (been smoking rec & med for almost 28 years).

oh that bit of hash at the start of the thread, its SOAP for sure.

wardyleb

 

[green michine]

yeh guys i agree that that stuff is soap and dont want to get people into thinkin its worth smokin cos it aint! It got me through untill i scored some descent green yesterday.
Thats the reason why i grow my own now to avoid them things and i never smoke it normally...truly...its only cos my dealler said it was "good" solid..and it really wernt too bad, though im smoke descent green now and the solid helped till proper smoke arrived!
Im not gonna go on about this weed other than its good! but yeh!..the solid aint nothing special and i never normally smoke it but i have to admit it got me through.

Smoking this weed now makes the solid feel like crap! Much smoother. I hope you dont think i thought i was getting a great deal with the solid, cos i new how low potent it
was...its just he said it was better than normall solid and i though it helped me out till i got some descent smoke. I agree with you guys..solids not worth buying.

 

[ndnguy]

Around 15 years ago or more you get VERY good hash in the UK. In the 70's/80's i used to get the best Red/gold leb as well as VERY good afghan/indian black. Morrocan hash was good, but always 3rd to the lebs & blacks.

In the late 80's red-leb was no-more, and black was harder to come by (used to get red/gold seal black).

Then a thing called "black morrocan" came in. It was just medium quality rocky(morocan) with things added to it to make it "dark", to try con people that it was better than it was. THis was ok, but it lead to the SOAP bar. People who don't toke, just want to make cash buy this stuff, mix it with all types of shite, engine oil, wax, shit, painkillers(thats the high) all types of shit. The young kids just don't know any better because they haven't had any REAL hash (unless they where around before it went bad). Very rarely will some decent hash come around, normaly from a toker who knows whats what and brings in back himself.

I'm lucky enough to have monthly work in holland, thats the only time i get real hash (even then you have to be carefull and look at what your buying). Otherwise i just grow my own. Bubble/ice hash is nice & strong, but it just doesn't have the taste that good imported hash has. Ever smoked Red-leb or nep black?, nothing like it.

just my two pence worth (been smoking rec & med for almost 28 years).

oh that bit of hash at the start of the thread, its SOAP for sure.

wardyleb

You must have a whole generation of kids smoking this poison. How will it be stopped ?? Sounds like kids are addicted to this garbage and never had real hash in their lives, seems like a huge problem and hopefully home growers can help with it or some decent commercial growers will pop up and help some how. I have heard of some of the poison shit they put into this stuff and people still smoke it , damn what a shame.

 

[Gangabiss]

Yea that looks like soapbar to me...

They're always trying to pass it off as pollen around here because people are waking up to the fact that soap isn't even ganja.

Me and all my mates started on it at school and smoked it for years until I found OG and realised I was smoking shit.

There did used to be good hash around these parts however, we called it squidgy black and it came as either gold seal or red seal and they both hit hard as hell...so much better than soap that people started rumours that it was contaminated with heroin.

Haven't seen any of that stuff around for years now though...wish I could get hold of some.

Anyone else in the uk still able to get the squidgy?

 

[GMT]

lol I havent seen decent squidgy since 91. The red and gold seals were shit I thought, but then at that time I chose soap over them, so what did I know lol. I thought it was the sputnik rumoured to have been tainted with smack to get customer loyalty lol. So much bullshit going around about weed back then on the streets. Thank fuck for the internet hey.

 

[green michine]

i havent had squidgy for years but its still crap..well..thats what i read. To me i think its fine, i would roll it very thin and place it in a joint but it would still burn funny. It has a nice smell to it but its also mixed with shit. I think it was good though..i can remember being quite stoned off it, though i could never get it to burn properly in a joint! I used to get bored whilst i was stoned and roll it into little balls for fun...though..its not all that and neither is solid/soap stuff.Though if i run dry of weed
and cant score any good weed then ill most proberly smoke whats left of the solid,then after that i wont buy solid again.

I didnt want to tell you guys but i picked a sample off the sage last night and let me tell you...boy oh boy this stuff is great!! Ive just smoked the last joint and im high as larry. It mekes my imagination run wild! I was looking out the window on my last joint and objects were fading away infront of each other till i was left with just a background...as if i could see through objects! Im hearing bells and chimes in my mind..
but ever so softly. I feel like typing a whole novel with lots of imagination in it..lol..

Yeh but the solid..its not too bad for me..though i wouldnt buy it again. It definately passed time waiting for weed, and squidy black..well that aint too bad either but i say grow ya own for sure..this stuff (sage) is very strong for me and fuck me is it nice!!!!
very very sour indeed..mostly cos it aint cured yet but yeah!...Hmmmm this is nice!!
Never hav my eyelids felt so heavy..fuck me sage is good and happy buzz! Cant wait till harvest. Though yeh solid..it was okay and got me through dry times and does get you quite stoned but i agrre with you guys that it just aint worth the money.

 

[ELMO9191]

looks like soap to me
squidgy paki black was down my way 2 months ago i payed 50 quid for 1/2 an oz
last time i had it b4 that was in the 90's
i was wasted on that shit real nice change
funny thing same as gmt i always chose the soap back then

 

[Gangabiss]

£50 for a half ounce!? Holy shit that's a good deal.

Right now I'd kill for that.

All I have the choice of getting around here is soapbar or piss poor herb that's been sprayed with water (and god knows what else) and is mainly leaves and cut up stalks....so at the moment I'm choosing to go without rather than waste my money on that crap.

Roll on harvest time!

 

[green michine]

yeah Gangabiss..im with you, im still waiting for harvest..just cant wait !!

 

[HashishinReidi]

What you just said is abit of a oxymoron lol , as there is no such thing as good soap ,Looks alot like KAK to me ,sorry but no soap bar is any good .Good for bomb rocks and making holes in things buts thats about it .I would not of wasted my money, i honestly did not think folks still bought that bob .If you tried to sell thatbob here to anyone you would get laughed at.Hello chamba about toking spliffs yes most ukers do use backy . But when it comes to bongs and pipes its just pure hash we use , well everyone who i know does .I have only seen one backy hash mix ever, And that was over 11 years ago, back in the days of red leb gold seal . And the odd few rolls of charras as that is how it always came on .Then we got loads of flat stress as we called it ie flat press , though some folks called it slate , but all the slate i had ever seen had been black in colour .And not brown like most flat press And then came the kak ie soap bar.If you click on this link red eye which is a uk mag a very good readto .You will see there anti soap ie kak t shirt its cooli think lol .http://www.theredeyeexpress.co.uk/redeyemain.html

 

[green michine]

i know..im not smokin it anymore...it was just a one off.

 

[reaperz]

hardeners can be anything from plastic to shoe polish, im sure you dont want to be smoking that, if you loved your body you wouldnt inhale plastic

 

[Chiefsmokingbud]

A bonding agent can also be paraffin. fillers can include but not be limited to: Milk powder, saw dust, boot polish, plastic, rubber, coffee etc. Wish i could find that thread where the guy purified his soap bar. The result was about a yield of 15% of what he started with lol.

 

[Chamba]

50 quid for 14 grams...sounds like a good deal right?..where can we get some of dat!

but as Chief pointed out there's only about 15% of the 14 g which is actual hash ...that equals a little less than 2 grams...

did you just pay 50 quid for 2 grams of hash and 12 grams of filler?...ha

take that 50 quid..and fly to Amsterdam...and since you are a soap smoker there won't be any need to actually buy anything there, just walk into a few coffee shops and inhale deeply a few times, then walk out quickly before you become overcome with a fatal case of THC overdose...ha har

 

[ngakpa]

I wouldn't get too carried away with what's in cheap Moroccan hash

most of it's just lowgrade and the extra is mostly still just plant matter of one kind or other, often just from the relentless beating given to the plants to make the shittest hash

believe me, if it really had diesel or pharmaceuticals or plastic conditioning agents in it you would really know about it when you tried to smoke it

cheap Moroccan still leaves a relatively clean ash and can still get you very blitzed

if you had genuine soap - i.e. genuine adulterated UK hash - you would really know about it

if you are seriously worried just hit the block with a hammer - a few hard hits you will see it readily breaks back up into a heap of the constituent resin glands etc ...

you can try ways to clean it, and when I did I never found evidence of the kind of heinous adulterants people mention ...

I believe there are people in the UK who will adulterate hash before selling it on - but not nearly as often as people seem to think -

as I say, mostly it is just low grade Moroccan destined for export - from what I understand they have big reserves of such hash in the country, and increasingly they are stuggling to find a market for it in Europe and the UK

it is as common now to see quality Moroccan as "soap" - the reason being is that dealers stuggle to shift lowgrade hash now, now that the market in homegrown grass is growing and people have acquired a taste for "kush", "skunk", "northern lights" etc.

as I say - hereabouts "soap" goes for 7g/a quarter for about 10 - 15, 40 on the oz ...

ironically it is not conspicuosly weaker than the commercial "kush" and "skunk" dealers hereabouts sell