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Half of all young people arrested are revealed to have smoked cannabis

A.N.Other

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=426752&in_page_id=1770

The Daily Mail said:
'Half of all young people arrested are revealed to have smoked cannabis'
By JAMES SLACK Last updated at 22:00pm on 5th January 2007

Half of all crime suspects arrested by police admit to recently smoking cannabis, astonishing Government research reveals.

For younger offenders, the figures are even more stark. Some 57 per cent say they have smoked the drug - which Labour controversially downgraded - in the past month.

It proves for the first time a firm link between cannabis and serious offending. It is used by more suspects than any other drug - including heroin and crack cocaine.

The startling findings emerged from the first ever Home Office survey of crime suspects who have just been arrested by the police.

Last night, opponents said it raised grave new doubts over Labour's wisdom in re-classifying cannabis from Class B to Class C in January 2004.

The decision means there is less deterrent for trying a drug which, research has now proved, is a significant factor in the life of half of all criminals.

The offences they were picked up for by police ranged from burglary and robbery to assault.

Shadow Home Secretary David Davis said: 'These alarming statistics raise serious questions about the consequences of the Government's chaotic and confused policy on drugs.

'We have long said that drugs fuel all sorts of crime. This is because they both undermine a person’s sense of responsibility but also because takers and addicts need money to feed their habit.

'People on drugs are far more likely to commit crime, especially violent crime. Until the Government get a grip on the drugs problem they will never make an impact on the causes of crime.'

The Government repeatedly focuses on heroin and crack as the main factors behind crime, making no mention of the role played by cannabis.

But the survey of more than 7,500 suspected criminals reached a dramatically different conclusion.

Some 46 per cent said they had taken cannabis in the past month. For younger criminals, aged 17-24, it rose to 57 per cent.

Only 18 per cent said they had taken heroin in the past month, 15 per cent crack and 10 per cent cocaine. Some 57 per cent, after tests, were identified as problem drinkers.

Labour has also relaxed the laws on drinking, making alcohol available round-the-clock.

But this is less stark than the findings for cannabis, as at least alcohol is sold legally.

The main reasons for all the arrests were assault (16 per cent), shoplifting (12 per cent), criminal damage (9 per cent) and burglary (8 per cent).

Mary Brett, spokesman for Europe Against Drugs, said the findings backed research showing a link between cannabis and violent offences, such as assault.

She added: 'Cannabis is by far the most common drug involved. Many people will be surprised by the number of cannabis users who have been arrested.

'Cannabis has been implicated in violence. A paper in 2002 found alcohol dependent individuals almost twice but cannabis dependents almost four times more likely to be violent than controls (people who did not abuse the substances).'

Last October, a senior church figure and police adviser warned Labour's decision to downgrade cannabis had filled youths with a 'lawless bravado' which turns them into criminals and even potential killers.

The Reverend George Hargreaves said that youths, smoking the drug with impunity since the law was changed, are being transformed into dangerous ' schizophrenics'.

He blamed the decision for the London murder of a father-of-two who asked them to be quiet because he had to get up early the next day.

Mr Hargreaves, who is the pastor of the Hephzibah Christian Centre in Hackney and sits on two Metropolitan Police committees, said: 'We are talking about a brand of cannabis that sends young people schizophrenic.

When they use it, there is a lawless bravado. Combine that lawless bravado with a knife, with an altered state of mind, and you get murder.'

Critics point out that - while it is the first time cannabis has been firmly linked to other crimes - it has already been blamed for turning users on to harder drugs.

A secret report by the Downing Street strategy unit said cannabis use had soared since it was downgraded.

The decision also led to a surge in hard drug use with teenagers tempted into taking cannabis and moving on to heroin and crack cocaine, it said.

The leaked document conceded: 'Recent changes to the law have increased the number of people taking cannabis. The amount of hard drug abuse has also increased. It appears the two rises are connected.'

The effect of downgrading cannabis is that being caught with the drug no longer carries the automatic threat of arrest.

Instead, a user is likely to be let-off with a simple formal warning, which does not count as a criminal record.

Charities say it has sent out the message to a generation of young people that smoking the drug is acceptable.

Other factors identified by the Home Office study, which was placed on a research website at the end of last year, were that more than half of those arrested were out of work.

Some 36 per cent had jobs. The rest were either in school or college, or were bringing up a family. A fifth of suspects had spent some time in a foster or children's home.

The suspected criminals were surveyed throughout 2004, within hours of being arrested.

The decision to downgrade cannabis from Class B to C, was implemented in January of that year. The Home Office then spent two years analysing the results, which were published on the departmental website in November 2006.

I read this in a middle class right leaning national (UK) paper whilst standing in a queue at the supermarket today. What an absolute load of unadulterated crap. It really is quite scary the conclusions the misinformed can draw.
 

green_grow

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there is SO much to laugh at here, but my favourite part was this ... " a secret report by the Downing Street strategy unit (pretty official-sounding, huh ? ) said ... ".

if the report was a secret, how did the writer learn of it's contents ?
 
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I just asked my buddy today, arent people that dont get high...nuts?
 

gnosis

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The part which is statistically related to cannabis is 5% funny and 5% off topic, but the rest of the article is 99% lame and of no interest.
 
G

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gimme a break when im faded im far more happy watching funny videos on youtube or playing psp. or just kicking back. if anything smoking weed prevents me from doing other crimes i might have more energy to pursue.
 

waydee

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Ah the Daily Mail, I wouldn't expect anything less of it :)

good thing its not taken in the least bit seriously by anyone with more than two braincells to rub together.

As before, correlation doesnt equal causation. I'm sure I could perform a study that finds 68% of violent offenders enjoy watching television - you get the point.

Wheres the study on how many non-offenders smoke cannabis?
 
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Nikijad4210

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When will people learn the correlation does not mean causation?
When they realize they can take their blinders off and take the earplugs out.


Seriously, saying herb is responsible for criminal/violent behavior is akin to saying eating carrots will turn you into a homicidal maniac :jerkit:

It's also called "splitting invisible hairs", and "blowing smoke up one's ass."
 
G

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that article makes my brain hurt

can you imagine someone got paid to write that. I can make things up too. give me a call
 

Pops

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If 57% smoke dope, 57% have serious alcohol problems and approx. 57% are unemployed, which 57% is causing the problem.

At least 99% of all the violence done under the influence of pot is done to Twinkies and Doritos, not to other people.

Damn, sorry, I forgot Slim Jims. Stoners will seriously fuck up a Slim Jim in a heartbeat.
 
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Gypsy Nirvana

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.....I wonder how many arrested people admitted to smoking Marlboro cigarettes?



.......maybe the cowboy image leads to more gunfights?
 

ChaoticEntity

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omfg!!!!! we have to do something about this rampent crime that marihuana is causing!!!!! Did you hear 100% of people that commit crimes admit to ingesting dihydrogen monoxide in some form the day they were arrested!! We need to do something about dihydrogen monoxide NOW!!!!!111!111!













Most people have never taken a stats class, let alone done research, most people in the world will never understand that correlation does not equal causation.The only way for the world to become a better place is through education, plain and simple.































p.s dihydrogen monoxide is water IE H2O
 

Re Co

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i dont get it. since when is 57 percent a "firm link" to anything?? 99-100 percent maybe, but 57?
if theres only a 57 percent chance of rain, i still water the garden.
 

A.N.Other

Member
hehe Chaotic Entity, 10 out of 10 violent offenders prefer H2O, perhaps 9 out of 10 violent offenders prefer kitty kat. hehe

waydee said:
Ah the Daily Mail, I wouldn't expect anything less of it :)

good thing its not taken in the least bit seriously by anyone with more than two braincells to rub together.

As before, correlation doesnt equal causation. I'm sure I could perform a study that finds 68% of violent offenders enjoy watching television - you get the point.

Wheres the study on how many non-offenders smoke cannabis?

Agreed in the entirety.

Unfortunately those folk with two braincells or less make up a not insignificant portion of the middle class voting public in the UK. Ridiculous but also true.
 
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