HAARP Engineering 'FRANKENSTORM' Hurricane Sandy - CAUGHT on SATELLITE and RADAR!!! ‏

[guy fawkes]

Who are you to judge what I need and don't need? You must fancy yourself to be the Grand Exalted Foil Hat of the loyal order of Foil Hats.

its the ones in the secret orders we have to worry about mate, im not going to try make you believe the truth as your not ready yet but one day.. just like i did.. something will click and itll start to make sense but untill then you will just see the rest of us as paranoid loonatics lol.

ive studied this haarp and chem trail stuff for ages now but before you can understand this you must read up on tesla and how ions affect us and the air around us, check it out but dont make and snap decisions ,
im only trying to tell you were to look , not what to see. thats upto mate,

 

[trichrider]

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[bombadil.360]

Rothschild’s, And The Geoengineering Empire

November 13, 2012 5 Comments





Why would the Rothschild’s be so interested in owning the largest and most recognized weather modeling organization out there? Why would E.L. Rothschild LLC wish to have the controlling interest in the worlds leading provider of interactive weather graphics and data services for television, web, and mobil? Because when you are involved in climate decimating geoengineering programs, you must also control the “forecast” models to cover your tracks.






The scope and scale of the global spraying of our skies can hardly be comprehended. SAG (stratospheric aerosol geoengineering) and SRM (solar radiation management). The massive web of supporting structures for these programs is mind bending. What is even more difficult to understand is how all of this happens in plain sight, and almost none seem to connect the dots.

Defense contractor “Raytheon” does all the “forecast” modeling for the National Weather Service and NOAA. Lockheed Martin does the modeling for the FAA. Since both of these private defense contractors are up to there necks in weather modification patents and programs, the “forecasts” are more or less the “scheduled” weather. Now, with the Rothschild’s acquisition of the dominant private modeling organization, the control of weather “modeling” seems complete. This control of “forecasts” and “graphics” provides for the constant visual conditioning that makes the population more likely to accept the constant spraying and manipulation of our weather as “normal”. When the nightly weather “forecast animation” matches what the public sees in the sky, right down to the upper level “haze” or “overcast” from the constant spraying, all seems to correlate, so nothing more is questioned. When the “forecasters” predict a hurricane will make an unprecedented 90 degree turn, and it does, nothing seems wrong. When they say there will be “heavy wet snow” at 40+ degrees, and there is, all appears OK. The global elites have, it seems, “covered all the bases”.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/rothschilds-and-the-geoengineering-empire/

we could use a weaponised hurricane to deal with hamas, hizbollah and plenty others without getting any bad rep for doing what's right.

how come the good old baron is not hooking us up?

oh yeah, it's because it cannot be done.

 

[guy fawkes]

we could use a weaponised hurricane to deal with hamas, hizbollah and plenty others without getting any bad rep for doing what's right.

how come the good old baron is not hooking us up?

oh yeah, it's because it cannot be done.

because they are part of the cia , hamas ect .. fake terror.. , they need the fake terror and extremists to help keep us hatefull and willing to go to war

 

[unspoken]

You guys seem to think that because there is a patent for something it is a workable device and is in use. That is completely untrue and a huge assumption you are making in all of this. I see most of the arguments here going back to controlling the weather 2025, which is a thought exercise, not any kind of proof of anything. I'm out, simply because my belief that this is untrue means that it will ultimately die out on its own like 99% of other conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theorists get one right every once in a while(not talking about haarp) and that makes them feel like they are always right. It goes back to patternicity. It's a mode of thought that a lot of you guys are stuck in that's nowhere near as abstract as you think it is.

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

we could use a weaponised hurricane to deal with hamas, hizbollah and plenty others without getting any bad rep for doing what's right.

how come the good old baron is not hooking us up?

oh yeah, it's because it cannot be done.

Its hardly a laser guided missile.

Think of it as the 21st century blunderbuss. Very damaging and scary but not exactly accurate.

Also the middle east is more known for sandstorms not hurricanes. It maybe impossible to trigger an engineered hurricane without nature being aligned. However Dr Livingstone says we can create them so who am i to disagree...

 

[Frozenguy]

How do you think an advance weather modification system would operate? How would you go about starting an investigation towards this if not a program similar to HAARP?

You guys seem to think that because there is a patent for something it is a workable device and is in use. That is completely untrue and a huge assumption you are making in all of this. I see most of the arguments here going back to controlling the weather 2025, which is a thought exercise, not any kind of proof of anything. I'm out, simply because my belief that this is untrue means that it will ultimately die out on its own like 99% of other conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theorists get one right every once in a while(not talking about haarp) and that makes them feel like they are always right. It goes back to patternicity. It's a mode of thought that a lot of you guys are stuck in that's nowhere near as abstract as you think it is.

It's rather easy (and destructive) to call something a conspiracy theory, then label someone a conspiracy theorist, then generalize all conspiracy theorists as supporting all the events you choose to call conspiracy theories.

 

[trichrider]

You guys seem to think that because there is a patent for something it is a workable device and is in use. That is completely untrue and a huge assumption you are making in all of this. I see most of the arguments here going back to controlling the weather 2025, which is a thought exercise, not any kind of proof of anything. I'm out, simply because my belief that this is untrue means that it will ultimately die out on its own like 99% of other conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theorists get one right every once in a while(not talking about haarp) and that makes them feel like they are always right. It goes back to patternicity. It's a mode of thought that a lot of you guys are stuck in that's nowhere near as abstract as you think it is.

your mode is all that much better, so keep at it.

this assumption of mine was, that it was going to be a bitter fight to convince even like minded peoples of it's significance...my preconception being a bit shy of reality.


and it goes way beyond 'Controlling the Weather 2025'....oh yeah, it's all a theory that that shit goes on.

 

[unspoken]

It's rather easy (and destructive) to call something a conspiracy theory, then label someone a conspiracy theorist, then generalize all conspiracy theorists as supporting all the events you choose to call conspiracy theories.

In my experience people that believe this don't believe in just one of these theories...hence the patternicity. Some of the people in this thread have openly admitted that they believe there are secret organizations controlling the world. If that is not a conspiracy theorist, what is?

 

[bombadil.360]

because they are part of the cia , hamas ect .. fake terror.. , they need the fake terror and extremists to help keep us hatefull and willing to go to war

holy scape goat batman!

naive and inmature at best though.

no one is responsible for any wrong doings, except for the cia, uh?

gotta go fly on my unicorn now lol

 

[bombadil.360]

or use it to deal with the malignant tumor called israel

was that a typo?

surely u meant: Israel, the only civilized country in the middle east

 

[guy fawkes]

holy scape goat batman!

naive and inmature at best though.

no one is responsible for any wrong doings, except for the cia, uh?

gotta go fly on my unicorn now lol

i really do pitty folk like yourself, seeing as you choose to be sarcastic rather than discuss my reasons for my statment.
shallow and narrow minded ,

try doing some holy home work when you get back from riding your sheep.. i mean unicorn

 

[guy fawkes]

was that a typo?

surely u meant: Israel, the only civilized country in the middle east

civilized .. what by bombing the shit out of everything you mean civilized..slaughtering civilians dailly.. its barbaric and cave manish running a primal lust for power and wealth. i rest my case

 

[guy fawkes]

In my experience people that believe this don't believe in just one of these theories...hence the patternicity. Some of the people in this thread have openly admitted that they believe there are secret organizations controlling the world. If that is not a conspiracy theorist, what is?

a conspiracy theorist is derogatory term for a critical thinker. nothing to do with being mad or paranoid

 

[unspoken]

Conspiracy theory- A belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for an unexplained event.

Critical thinking is what is sometimes termed a “virtue phrase”, one that everyone embraces eagerly and, unfortunately, reflexively. It shares this awkward status with freedom, creative thinking, and cooperation.

So, the storm is explained by meteorology. Europeans modeled the storm and predicted it impacting New York on the correct day. They did this a week in advance while it was still just a low pressure system in the Caribbean. This is explained to these people, and their "critical thinking" skills lead them to, "well obviously these European meteorologists knew about the manipulation and were in on it, because only governments (and Raytheon apparently) are able to model weather correctly." That is complete hogwash. Do you realize how desirable it is for all kinds of industries and organizations to predict weather? There are some absolutely insane assumptions going on in this thread.

 

[trichrider]

co-opting cooperation by denial.

what is HAARP?

not patents, but working models of Teslas ideas.

this is the last best video. i cannot get the correct result, so my math must be wrong.

and this is very well done. thanks for the stimulating banter. it's been different. best to you all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SToVBicIrJU&feature=related

 

[unspoken]

Assume therefore that the power of the transmitters is many times that declared on the website (3.6MW). This may mean HAARP could potentially disrupt radio communications during war, or blind incoming missiles. But science cannot accept Dr Rahman’s claim that “It (HAARP) may also affect plate tectonics causing earthquakes, floods through torrential rains and trigger tsunamis.”

Does the good doctor believe in magic and demons? How else can massive tectonic plates be moved by radio waves? Will HAARP tickle a sleeping subterranean monster that awakes and sets off earthquakes? This kind of thinking was what irate and ignorant village mullahs used after the 2005 Pakistani earthquake. They blamed cable television, after which followers smashed thousands of television sets.

Weather change simply cannot be caused by HAARP’s radio waves. The effects of a puny 3.6MW radio transmitter on the ionosphere can only be detected with sensitive instruments. Even these are almost completely washed out by a constant stream of charged particles from the sun that hit the earth during daytime. To see HAARP’s effects would be like trying to see a candle a mile away in blazing sunlight.

Today, even the most powerful lasers and radios are millions of times weaker than needed to heat sizeable portions of the ionosphere. (Of course, producing hotspots in tiny volumes anywhere is not a problem, but these have zero effect on the weather or earthquakes.) Perhaps in some future century a laser might be able to do this job.

Dr Rahman says he is uncertain if HAARP could equal a nuclear weapon or perhaps be even more destructive. But if it is actually the super-weapon that he alleges, then the laws of physics will have to be overturned. Physicists will have the sad task of unlearning all that they know and burning their useless books. With a heavy heart, I shall return all my physics degrees.

Scientists sometimes disagree — this is how scientific disputes are resolved. But it is worth asking if at least some genuine scientists support Dr Rahman’s claims. He provides no examples. Instead, he quotes President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, who accused the US of causing the Haiti earthquake. While I admire Chavez for standing up to political bullying by the US, I am not sure he knows anything about plate tectonics. In fact, his claim caused seismologists to crack up with laughter.

Dr Rahman also quotes a 1999 committee of the European Union Parliament that called for HAARP to be examined by an international independent body. I do not know if any of the committee members were scientists. But 11 years later, the EU has not called for further investigation, nor alleged that HAARP has caused natural disasters.

The good doctor enthusiastically endorses the statements of Dr Nick Begich, one of HAARP’s most vocal critics, and refers to him reverentially as a scientist. But Begich’s website says that he obtained a doctorate in traditional medicine from The Open International University for Complementary Medicines in 1994. In other words Begich is not a scientist, but a homeopath who obtained a mail order degree.

Yet another quoted “authority” is the arch conspiracy theorist, Michel Chossudovsky, a retired professor of economics in Ottawa. In Dr Rahman’s pantheon of ‘experts’, none has published a scientific paper in a reputable science journal that demonstrates a connection between ionospheric physics and any weather or subterranean phenomenon. In short, Dr Rahman’s claims about HAARP are based on pseudo-science promoted by conspiracy theorists who blame America for all grief in the world.

Once science loses its objectivity and becomes enslaved to any kind of ideology or political opinion, it becomes useless.

Quack science does not just cost money. It also confuses people, engages them in bizarre conspiracy theories, and decreases society’s collective ability to make sensible decisions. One must therefore seriously question whether a pseudoscience organisation like Comstech deserves lavish funding from poor Pakistanis. We have better things to spend our money on. As for the world of science: it will not even notice Comstech’s demise.

The writer, Pervez Hoodbhoy, teaches physics at Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad. He's probably a freemason.

 

[Frozenguy]

In my experience people that believe this don't believe in just one of these theories...hence the patternicity. Some of the people in this thread have openly admitted that they believe there are secret organizations controlling the world. If that is not a conspiracy theorist, what is?

I'm sure things get blown out of proportion and some/many people get hooked into it, but what if it was partially true.


Do you think the people/families/business groups sit on the $billions they've earned and hope the next president/politician sees things their way? Or do you think one of them has come up with the brilliant idea of influencing a president's decision making with tons of cash and other perks.

 

[ForestBuds]

^ -------- History Channel's "The Men Who Built America" is a good example. Rockefeller was so powerful that he actually got richer by owning shares in over 3 dozen companies that still rakes in record breaking profit after Standard Oil was dismantled. The show even mentions on how powerful their influence was on America's election after election post Civil War.

 

[bombadil.360]

people defending hamas and hating on Israel, are the same as people who root for a shit talker shit starter that gets his ass handed back to him.

critical thinking? not to be found....