Growing/smoking with children in the house

[SmokinErb22]

Posting this thread because I'm not really sure how I feel about it....

I've been growing off and on for 10 years now, and became a father a couple years ago. Since then I've been struggling a little with my commitment to continue to grow in the same household as my family. The risks are just incredible, with a very real possibility of losing your child to state custody.

My son doesn't know my room exists (It's in a locked room within a locked basement) and will never know it exists for the foreseeable future.

I don't smoke in the same room as my son, but he has came in the room while I was smoking. Caught me doing dabs a few times. Now, as he's so young I don't concern myself with it, but he's getting to be the age where its time to start keeping stuff hidden. My first memory of my father is looking up over the top of the counter and seeing him roll a joint. Didn't know what it was at the time obviously, but I very distinctly recall it being a green substance. Obviously a dab rig is going to be a bit more memorable....

now I'm not concerned about the past, I'm concerned about the future. How do you all deal with having children in the same house? My fears are really just him talking one day to someone and innocently saying the wrong thing. Obviously it's important that he be taught that he can't talk about it, one day.... but that day is a long ways off for me. For the safety of my family, he simply cannot know about it....

So how do y'all do it?

And yes, my goal is to move my grow to another location. That said, my monthly expenses exceed $2000, and I'm not financially in a position to add another $500-600/mo house and another set of utility bills to it. $2000+ monthly might not be a lot to you, but before I moved here my monthly bills came out to about $1000 and could barely afford that....this IS a nice place for me, I did it so I could get my son out of the shitty, but affordable house/neighborhood we were in. It allowed me to quit my job (my wife makes way more at work...) and stay at home with my son while still paying my bills and provide a nicer, safer place for my family. My goals are to have a second place by the time he starts school.. which gives me 3 years to get my shit together.

For that reason, I can't simply just pull the plug on it. I don't even want to, why would I? I just want to know your methods for safely possession, consuming, and growing cannabis around small children so I can apply them to my situation.

I am NOT posting so you can give me grief about doing something illegal in a house with a small child. I have my beliefs, and you have yours. I believe in standing up for what I believe in, and I believe in high quality, readily accessible cannabis for those who need it. And someone has to do it.

I might be a "dealer" under my state law, but every single one of my customers would be considered patients in a med state. I don't sell for recreational purposes, although the people I provide meds to might. I know for a fact I am genuinely improving the quality of life of EVERY person who I supply. My customers have Chron's, cancer, chronic pain.... and I require SOME form of proof of these conditions. A lot of people don't like it, whatever. I do it for my own peace of mind, because in my eyes, I'm NOT a drug dealer. So there's a lot more to think about here than just myself. Again, why I can't just pull the plug.

Recreational purposes? Just invite me to a party. Everyone knows I'll show up with an O to blow. No cash accepted.

 

[armedoldhippy]

I moved growing outside, and did nearly all of my smoking elsewhere after they got a few years under their belt. mine "caught" me a few times when young, but they both swear that they don't remember it these days...

 

[Jellyfish]

That's a big can of worms you just opened there, bro. Luckily for me, I don't have any kids!

 

[Greyskull]

"Its just a plant" by Ricardo Cotres
i recommend you read this with your child
teach them to read and teach them truth as well... two birds one stone

http://www.justaplant.com

aloha

 

[tropicannayeah]

I'm at a similar stage now with my kids.....I refer to it as "tobacco" and the plants are just one of many other types of herbs, flowers and other plants in my tiny garden.

I won't be explaining it exactly how the "justaplant" little book does, but I'll certainly take some pointers from it. thanks for the link Greyskull. I'm in the process of reinforcing the notion that there are some things that are "family secrets" that we only talk about among ourselves, Daddy's farting and smoking are some of them. I'm fortunate that I only veg seedlings here and then backpack them out to the bush..

and as harsh as the cannabis laws here are, if the cops walked in right now, they would only take me, not the kids. If I had to live in a country where the cops could take my children away, I wouldn't grow or smoke in the house. Every single child that is taken by the authorities goes through the most horrific experience, most are abused verbally, mentally, physically and very frequently sexually, sometimes by the people who are paid to care for them and more often by other damaged formally abused children in the home or where ever they take your kid.

Smokinherb22 "I'm not a drug dealer" yes you are in the minds of the law..the cops or the judge won't give a damn about whether you are growing for murderous bikers or for cancer patients, it's all the same to them, "next!"...but hey it's your choice, keep rolling the dice like most of us do but when you have the weight of having your children ripped from you hanging over your and their heads, then there's no other choice but to stop growing at home as your children's safety is more important than anything else. If you were my friend I'd grab you by the shoulders and shake you until you got some sense into you.

Here's my suggestion...out of the patients you supply, how about asking them if you can set up a small grow in their home, you will do all the work, set it up for free and their bud can be free and you can keep the excess or something along those lines. ..most of your patients won't agree, but I'm sure several will, so instead of risking losing your kids (and having them lose their innocence) then chances are you will have 2 or 3 gardens!

 

[FlowerFarmer]

This thread makes me sad.

It's an absolutely fucking crime against humanity to snatch kids from their loving/caring parents for growing plants indoors. It makes me ill just thinking about it. I realize there are unfit people out there exposing their children to a lot of fucked up shit, but seeing kids taken from good families as a result of the war on drugs is absolutely disgusting and makes me want to cry. If that's not enough to make parents go full on a-wall/chris dorner then I don't know what is.


Unfortunately - those are real fears and I'm not sure you can do much about them short of remote the grow. I'm in the process of remoting my thing and the costs are large, double mortgage/bills, etc. It can be made to work, but it's ultimately money down the drain. Those are funds now associated with only growing as opposed to living there, etc.

I don't even have kids, but did it for the protection of my live-in GF. She definitely wants the kids thing soon so I figured now was the time to try and regain a sense of normalcy. Let family visit us, rest the mind, and see if I can make it all work.. beforehand.

Do some research in your state. Is it something they are actively doing to good people? I read about cases of meth houses, trash parents, etc getting their kids taken from them, and in most instances it was probably the right call.

I know of a couple that was busted a while back. Full on swat raid.. 8000w in a barn. Both husband and wife (albeit not technically married) were arrested and charged. LEO asked and asked if there was somebody to come get the kid. Child services never got involved.. and because nobody was around to watch the kid while they were arrested/booked, the LEO softened up and let the mom stay back and get booked at a later/more planned date. (I think). They actually seemed to have a hint of remorse as the husband/grower was cuffed sitting in the rain and the child was running around (not fully aware of what was going down). Playing and just being a kid. I think they started to feel like shit for what they were doing..once they realized this was just a normal couple trying to live... I really hope they did. I hope more and more realize the war on drugs is a giant failure and extremely destructive to good people's lives.


It's still a risk obviously. but if it's out of sight..under lock, and there is no evidence of neglect it seems like around here they normally just turn the other cheek if it's evident your not a crack whore / meth addict whom obviously is unfit to care for the children. Pad lock from the outside. Hopefully in a court of law you could prove/show that nobody but yourself could possibly have access to that space.


Hope ya get it figured out. It's ridiculous that we have to live with this on our minds.. over flowers.

 

[mr.brunch]

I was lucky- I found a mate who likes weed but has no interest in growing himself, so I do the grow, and we split the cost and harvest.
As for smoking, I do it all either in me shed, or in the garden

 

[blastfrompast]

I grow at home....I have a 5yr old and he knows dad smokes his medicine..he knows it is weed.. We don't talk about it outside of the home with the exception of his grandparents who also know. He doesn't consider it a big deal....Daddy needs it for his neck..

I don't smoke around him, tho he has came outside before while I'm having a hoot, and knows to stay far way.

I do run a tight ship at home tho, no smells coming from the house, or on our clothes etc. Him and my wife go to a hotel for a couple days when I'm trimming because the smell is almost impossible to control at that point 100%......end of story...

 

[Photosynthesis]

If people keep hiding the "truth" then how are the future generations suppose to "right" the "wrongs?"

Even in an illegal State I was always honest. Every situation is different though, and you have to do what is best for your for your family.

I would suggest moving to a legal State. Amazing how much better you feel when you do.

 

[blastfrompast]

I just don't want to saddle any stigma on my son...

If he goes stinking of weed to school....that is going to cause grief... Either from school or other parents.

Do I want my kid ostracized because other parents wont let their child play with my kid cause he smells of weed...Fuck no.

Do I hide who I am, nope...But I won't let my med use affect others in my family... Pretty simple...

 

[stoned-trout]

all I can say is good luck....tough call.....

 

[FlaDankster]

But I won't let my med use affect others in my family... Pretty simple...

But your wife and child stay at a hotel during harvest??

 

[SmokinErb22]

"Its just a plant" by Ricardo Cotres
i recommend you read this with your child
teach them to read and teach them truth as well... two birds one stone

http://www.justaplant.com

aloha

I love this! Thanks a lot. I actually just ordered a couple of other books by the same author, I believe, titled "Go the f#*k to sleep" along with another titled "You have to f#*king eat." Obviously these are more for my wife and I's entertainment than for actually reading to our son.
I read the excerpt on the website, and it does seem like a useful tool in a couple of years when he's older and has a bit more comprehension. I did just order this from amazon though, thanks again!



Was gonna reply to everyone real quick, but my wife just got home for a surprise lunch. I'll get back to this after she leaves again.

 

[blastfrompast]

But your wife and child stay at a hotel during harvest??

LOL yup... She and the boy get a 2 day vacation, with maid service, and I get to trim like a mofo.

My wife is sensitive to the terps, and this is the only way it will work...

Since we live rural, and cook most of our food from scratch and generally live a simple life, this is a treat...

My son gets to go swimming etc. during the winter months etc. so I don't see this as a downside....

If I wasn't chopping, he wouldn't get to spend a couple days having fun in the city with his mom...I will sometimes join them if I finish early....

Clearer?

 

[jd4083]

tough situation all around...definitely a very divisive topic even among those of us who all share the same love for the plant

LOL yup... She and the boy get a 2 day vacation, with maid service, and I get to trim like a mofo.

My wife is sensitive to the terps, and this is the only way it will work...

Since we live rural, and cook most of our food from scratch and generally live a simple life, this is a treat...

My son gets to go swimming etc. during the winter months etc. so I don't see this as a downside....

If I wasn't chopping, he wouldn't get to spend a couple days having fun in the city with his mom...I will sometimes join them if I finish early....

Clearer?

kudos to you for having a reasonable, level-headed stance on things and not just blowing clouds in your family's face because fuck it #yolo smoke weed everyday

you have an interesting approach to the situation for sure

 

[armedoldhippy]

I love this! Thanks a lot. I actually just ordered a couple of other books by the same author, I believe, titled "Go the f#*k to sleep" along with another titled "You have to f#*king eat." Obviously these are more for my wife and I's entertainment than for actually reading to our son.

i had to have a talk with my youngest about 15 years ago. he WOULD NOT use the @#$% bathroom! i literally had to tell him "food turns into poop after you eat. you either have to stop eating and starve to death, or learn to sit down and shit!" little fucker was ready to explode...

 

[ronbo51]

I had kids, grandkids, family, parties, my motherinlaw lived with us and broke her hip and the cops and the ambulance came. I wasn't very concerned. My grow room was well hidden. No one ever knew. It never smelled. It wasn't very big though. I ran twin 250's.

As far as kids, I would hide it and never let them know you smoke. Ever. There's plenty of time for your kids knowing shit later. As far as I am concerned if I had small kids and they knew I grew I would shut it down. If you can't keep your shit tight from a child then you are too loose to run in a tough state.

 

[Mikell]

If you don't mind wierd but interesting and productive kids, homeschooling is always an idea.

 

[tropicannayeah]

How many posters in this thread grow in a house with their children and under state or country laws that would take your children away if the cops raided your house and arrested you?

Isn't every other concern irrelevant when it comes to growing?

 

[SmokinErb22]

I'm at a similar stage now with my kids.....I refer to it as "tobacco" and the plants are just one of many other types of herbs, flowers and other plants in my tiny garden.

I won't be explaining it exactly how the "justaplant" little book does, but I'll certainly take some pointers from it. thanks for the link Greyskull. I'm in the process of reinforcing the notion that there are some things that are "family secrets" that we only talk about among ourselves, Daddy's farting and smoking are some of them. I'm fortunate that I only veg seedlings here and then backpack them out to the bush..

and as harsh as the cannabis laws here are, if the cops walked in right now, they would only take me, not the kids. If I had to live in a country where the cops could take my children away, I wouldn't grow or smoke in the house. Every single child that is taken by the authorities goes through the most horrific experience, most are abused verbally, mentally, physically and very frequently sexually, sometimes by the people who are paid to care for them and more often by other damaged formally abused children in the home or where ever they take your kid.

Smokinherb22 "I'm not a drug dealer" yes you are in the minds of the law..the cops or the judge won't give a damn about whether you are growing for murderous bikers or for cancer patients, it's all the same to them, "next!"...but hey it's your choice, keep rolling the dice like most of us do but when you have the weight of having your children ripped from you hanging over your and their heads, then there's no other choice but to stop growing at home as your children's safety is more important than anything else. If you were my friend I'd grab you by the shoulders and shake you until you got some sense into you.

Here's my suggestion...out of the patients you supply, how about asking them if you can set up a small grow in their home, you will do all the work, set it up for free and their bud can be free and you can keep the excess or something along those lines. ..most of your patients won't agree, but I'm sure several will, so instead of risking losing your kids (and having them lose their innocence) then chances are you will have 2 or 3 gardens!

Realistically if the cops walked in on me right now, I'd go to prison and my wife would get my kid. The odds of neglect of a dependent charges arising are fairly slim - but with the way things are today in America with our current police and nanny state, where you kids can get taken away for simply asking for 2nd medical opinion..... I like to consider that its a very real possibility.

That said, not a single person knows where I live. There is absolutely no reason for the cops to ever come over to my house short of investigating crimes I could be a potential witness to (example - my neighbor murders his wife in their backyard). I think its fairly important to stress that I've taken every measure I can possibly think of to keep my family safe. I've relocated where nobody knows me, I keep to myself, I have 2x the amount of carbon filtration that I'd need along with a brand new backup filter at all times. I've got a fire sprinkler system in place, half dozen fire extinguishers all around my place, I rent the place under a false name and do not have my wifes name on the lease, and we have a very good attorney on retainer.

I respect the way you feel, however if I wasn't supremely confident in my ability to remain discrete (The absolute worst thing is the $500-600/mo electric bill.... paid on time, every time) I wouldn't be growing in the first place. Again though, nobody who ever got busted woke up thinking "hey, I think I'll go get raided today." I could get set-up. Could get snitched on. So many possibilities.... yet every single scenario leads to be getting busted AWAY from home. Transporting it. Nothing leads back to my house. Not my mail. Not any form of paperwork. Not my friends. Not even my name on the lease.