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Growing Organics living soil, Sativa/Narrow leaf dominant pheno selection, phenotypic expression.

moose/MI

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You read Upstates thread on keeping sativas small on OG? really very good info on keeping sativas small
Yes,
Thank you, I have read that one.

It's raining. 🌧 Not much going on.
I just loaded some Mountain Gold green in my dynavap.
Someone directed me towards this post
and it already looks promising for the afternoons reading. 📚
Fixing gene frequency and stuff.

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bonghopper

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Thanks for the link,
ya man, Dynavap's a lovely vape, I got the hyper bowl, no looking back, even got their new cap, with the balls. Real nice to have convection vape for the start or earlier in the day, and then the regular conduction cap for evening or heavier effects, even from the same strain.
 

moose/MI

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Thanks for the link,
ya man, Dynavap's a lovely vape, I got the hyper bowl, no looking back, even got their new cap, with the balls. Real nice to have convection vape for the start or earlier in the day, and then the regular conduction cap for evening or heavier effects, even from the same strain.
I have my eye on em. 😝
I've learned to slow down. Not be first in line. Let the reviews and such come in.
Then I take advantage of the price drops.
But I'm very interested in the new tips and caps.
My last purchase:
Previous model for half price and they threw in another free model that preceded that! (M+)
 

Persianfarmer

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Hi everyone,

We like start of with a couple of pictures of what’s growing at the moment, as we dive further in depth with this journal we will be discussing the why and how to; of everything we are sharing. Our position is key (49th parallel) as we do most of our work outdoors, and with organics principals.

First pheno of interest this year 2023 is this F1 cross of a Dutch Durban Poison (from regular seed mom was indica looking pheno with a fast flowering time and revealing sex early on in July). It was cloned and later these clones where sent outdoors in the bush to be open pollinated by the vigours yet long flowering but early to reveal sexual expression as true male we have called Duterte’s Nightmare (a filipino presumed landrace coming from the northern jungles of Luzon in the areas between Baguio and Sagada, the exact location is unknown); seeds recovered by us in person back in 2019 and first grown from seed on 2022 this male showed excellent side branching vigour and the structure exhibited in flower is very unique and distinctive.

Our second pheno of interest is the F1 cross of Duterte’s Nightmare male with our 2015 F1 cross we will just name PSF1 for the purpose of this journal, we will also look at the background of this PSF1 female.


Dutch Durban Poison x Dutertes male we will refer to as DDPxDN F1
Personal Sativa F1 x Dutertes male we will refer to as PSF1xDN F1
Duterte’s Nightmare reg we will refer to as DN
here we go;

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DN
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Veg time before the sex reveal, this pheno remains in that same pot for the rest of the lifespan.
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Hi buddy! Everything is amazing, amazing thread, amazing strain, amazing cross, amazing plants and amazing garden. Well done and respect
 

BC LONE WOLF

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Happy Sunday bro, how is life on the island?

I'm sure you are busy prepping soil for this year.
Your seedlings roots look solid.

Was trying to convince the wife on going with you to Jamaica next year. She is thinking about it! That would be sweet bro.

Cheers
LWG

Cheers bro 😎

Had a busy Sunday been working on the garden setup and general housekeeping lol

Yeah it would something if get to see each other down there in Jamaica 🇯🇲 we can still plan for later it would be sweet.

Hope you had a good weekend
 

BC LONE WOLF

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That bigger bowl is what I always wanted a dynavap to be. Don't see any flaws in design yet. I can't grow as potent herb here as most are used to with the lack of sun and heat in our climate.

What's you're next up pot size @BC LONE WOLF? Lovely fat white roots indeed

Im debating if and when I should up pot. After checking roots I would’ve done it. But it’s a waiting game here as most are going in the ground so I still have 2 weeks to make up my mind.

Next pot size is half liter, still small pots because I don’t want them out of control just yet.
 

BC LONE WOLF

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Yes buddy for sure! I am doing balcony living soil, and here is what I call My Room Farm lol

Right on ! Looking sweet mate. I actually started growing in organic soil in Montreal out of the balcony and with a tent inside. Yeah man that’s was something, I remember my next door neighbours balcony would be 4 ft away from mine lol of course she saw all my plants… she was a stoner so pretty chill.

And I managed to finish them on the balcony. Im happy with the soil upgrade now, I love growing outdoors even if it’s on my balcony.



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Persianfarmer

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Right on ! Looking sweet mate. I actually started growing in organic soil in Montreal out of the balcony and with a tent inside. Yeah man that’s was something, I remember my next door neighbours balcony would be 4 ft away from mine lol of course she saw all my plants… she was a stoner so pretty chill.

And I managed to finish them on the balcony. Im happy with the soil upgrade now, I love growing outdoors even if it’s on my balcony.

Sweet mon frère! Merde c’est super jolie… very nice mini balcony farm brother. Love your veggies and your soil! Lovely

Yeah I hear I feel kinda down graded. Used to have a decent garden so when I compare, it is almost ridiculous.

See what I mean 🤣🤣🤣… OD vs my balcony 🤣
 

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BC LONE WOLF

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Did bottom feed/water used 1/10 of the vermicompost juice. Soaked 15 minutes and them let them drain. Every sunny day they are outside they can handle it pretty well.


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The one pheno I have my finger next to, is a Chiang Mai pearl pheno xD2024. The size of the that leaf has some reach, big long leaves potential. Something I will keep and eye on.
 

Persianfarmer

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Did bottom feed/water used 1/10 of the vermicompost juice. Soaked 15 minutes and them let them drain. Every sunny day they are outside they can handle it pretty well.


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The one pheno I have my finger next to, is a Chiang Mai pearl pheno xD2024. The size of the that leaf has some reach, big long leaves potential. Something I will keep and eye on.

Very nice and healthy! Wow you got a Chiang Mai from Northern Thailand😉👍🏻…Tu as de la chance man!!! How does it smoke and taste?
 

BC LONE WOLF

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Very nice and healthy! Wow you got a Chiang Mai from Northern Thailand😉👍🏻…Tu as de la chance man!!! How does it smoke and taste?
It’s a cross I made last year after growing Ace Thai - Chiang Mai. I had 2 very different phenos, quite opposite actually so I made seeds out of both using a SEAsian male.

That particular line now should be very foxtail

Ace Chiang Mai “Pearl pheno”
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Dutertes Nightmare aka Filipino

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Persianfarmer

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It’s a cross I made last year after growing Ace Thai - Chiang Mai. I had 2 very different phenos, quite opposite actually so I made seeds out of both using a SEAsian male.

That particular line now should be very foxtail

Ace Chiang Mai “Pearl pheno”
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Dutertes Nightmare aka Filipino

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Well done! It looks amazing! Did you cross your Chang Mai with the Philippino? If so I think it will be bad ass!!!! Is the Philipino from Luzon?
 

BC LONE WOLF

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Well done! It looks amazing! Did you cross your Chang Mai with the Philippino? If so I think it will be bad ass!!!! Is the Philipino from Luzon?

yes I crossed both Chiang Mai I had with the Filipino. I actually cross all my females with the same male last year.
I have been using this filipino since 2022, made several crosses and I have been testing them. I got the seeds in Palawan.
 

BC LONE WOLF

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Lookin lovely. That male the pure filipino? Nice structure.

The one plant with the chlorosis, I sometimes get one or two of these each season. When I see those ones I pot them up early, and they pull out of it.

The filipino males I have seen 3 in total have all been used, every time they have shown incredible structure and many other favourable traits.

The chlorosis is maybe related to environment, the lights are very close to the seedlings not more than 12 inchs from the canopy. I have it at minimum strength. I seen it happen last year too the SMG didn't like the light too close and the top cola lost color. I'm sure they will snap out of it once they have a permanent home.
 
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