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Growing for quality of resin and efffect. Not for the eye .(Does water starving produce more and better quality resin)

kro-magnon

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Higher EC = more quality.

The only reason people don't accept that is because their nutrients are imbalanced garbage produces by people in their mother's basement, who know absolutely nothing about drugs or plants let alone drug plants.


The answer to any question is to do it right. Grow the plant with healthy inputs. Stop claiming "genetical drift" every time you grow shit weed with shit nutrients. Stop blaming the environment for your shitty nutes or the shitty method of applying them.



Crop steering just causes fungal pathogens in the root zone. Side by side analysis shows these wet dry cycles are only good for growing shrooms.

Look at any other life form. It's performance boils down to the food pyramid. No one knows what the food pyramid for cannabis looks like? Water, environment, moisture.. Cop outs.. No one is willing to learn nutrition, would rather grow shitty pk boosted plastic weed with bonus spray terps to help mask the mycotoxins and assorted antifungal sprayd. Is this where the cannabis scene dies? With buzz words and pesticide scams?

Maybe it's just an American problem, how the brains are filled with words instead of meaning. Your food pyramid for humans, in America, is sorted into industries, by marketing budget. What the fuck is a "dairy"? Why the fuck should kids drink milk? Most expensive calcium on the planet? Americans have no grasp on health or nutrition, that's why the weed in America sucks and every growers fuck up is always their best crop. You're a backwards population, Hollywood-obsessed English speakers.
Your tirade is totally off, we are mostly from Europe in this thread. The idea the high EC= quality is laughable. Most of the best smokes I've had were grown with relatively low EC.
 

Ca++

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Switching back to the topic at hand, I have an alternate view on reduced fertigation. While the viewpoint of it being water reduction has been focused on, there was also feed reduction. I would really like to see the deficiencies that set in, and suspect K is in play. I don't want to move away from the idea water within the plant is the factor behind the resin increase. I'm just thinking about what the plant actually saw. It's viewpoint. Water pressure within the plant can be influenced in numerous ways.


I just suffered the unfortunate mishap, of fertigating from my tank, that hadn't been set. However, the EC was only 20% down, while the pH would be nearly 7. This isn't common for me, but perhaps the flushers might know more. As I think typical, the edges of leaves nearest the HID had fried edges within hours. Water movement effected, without reduced watering. The increase in resin from this event, is obvious without looking for it. I know in the past I have seen the same, and thought the buds contracting may of squeezed the resin out like a sponge. However, that's so many years ago, with little then to go on historically, that I can't form a good picture.

It shouldn't really be true, if buds don't have stomata. I just can't ignore what I am seeing though
 

Lester Beans

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Higher EC = more quality.

The only reason people don't accept that is because their nutrients are imbalanced garbage produces by people in their mother's basement, who know absolutely nothing about drugs or plants let alone drug plants.


The answer to any question is to do it right. Grow the plant with healthy inputs. Stop claiming "genetical drift" every time you grow shit weed with shit nutrients. Stop blaming the environment for your shitty nutes or the shitty method of applying them.



Crop steering just causes fungal pathogens in the root zone. Side by side analysis shows these wet dry cycles are only good for growing shrooms.

Look at any other life form. It's performance boils down to the food pyramid. No one knows what the food pyramid for cannabis looks like? Water, environment, moisture.. Cop outs.. No one is willing to learn nutrition, would rather grow shitty pk boosted plastic weed with bonus spray terps to help mask the mycotoxins and assorted antifungal sprayd. Is this where the cannabis scene dies? With buzz words and pesticide scams?

Maybe it's just an American problem, how the brains are filled with words instead of meaning. Your food pyramid for humans, in America, is sorted into industries, by marketing budget. What the fuck is a "dairy"? Why the fuck should kids drink milk? Most expensive calcium on the planet? Americans have no grasp on health or nutrition, that's why the weed in America sucks and every growers fuck up is always their best crop. You're a backwards population, Hollywood-obsessed English speakers.
Congrats, dumbest post on icmag in awhile and that's a real accomplishment.

Now which sock are you? Plasticrubba? The diddler? Why keep changing your name? Oh that's right ... Carry on
 

ArtOfSelection

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Boutique Breeder
hmm interesting theory.... stress induced potency ....i'm sure many a grower here on IC mag have brought plants back from the brink after getting lax with their watering schedules......i know i have ... but i have never observed anything beneficial in the smoke

the best resin imo

is simply dry shift ........using mixed resin donors from plants on a similar spectrum

mixed sativa resin is my fav

haze (original and old timers )
mango thai
destroyer ( mixed phenos)


is the best resin i have ever experienced.........trip hash ....altho pure haze hash is a close second


👍
 

CharlesU Farley

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Congrats, dumbest post on icmag in awhile and that's a real accomplishment.

Now which sock are you? Plasticrubba? The diddler? Why keep changing your name? Oh that's right ... Carry on
As a FNG here, trying to keep track of all the changing nyms and sock puppets is very frustrating. :rolleyes:

Can't believe people don't have the balls to stick with the same nym. I've used variations of Chuck U Farley since the 90s and the term "sock puppet" was coined on Usenet back in the early 90's, so I have more experience with them than I'd like.

The only lower form of life on an Internet forum than a sock puppet is reserved for those who go back and _delete_ their posts or replace them with a series of dots.

Eunics have more balls than people who do that. ;)
 

Ca++

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On man. The post removers. That is so shit. When someone chucks their dummy out the pram, and want it recorded in history. No facts about the matter left, except they are tossers.

Name changes because you are unliked, is really quite sad. To want to stay in a group, that doesn't want you. That's what having no friends really looks like. It would be interesting to see these peoples lives. Though not for long.

I change my name from time to time. My ego wants me to catalogue my history, but my sensibilities tell me a firebreak is a good. It's not legal here.
I wish I didn't have to though
 

Broggemann

Active member
Im well aware of the studies that were done regarding the "perfect" amount of NPK for cannabis.
That 60ppm phosphorus should be enough, potassium is either detrimental or has nearly no influence on yield and/or cannabinoids, etc.

I did no real side-by-sides, but grew the same clones under different feeding and irrigation schedules.
Again and again.
And - I wish it would be otherwise - high EC (specially P and K!), relatively low calcium and hard drybacks always gave me the best quality.
I regularly pushed up to 500ppm K in my feedings and even stacked the EC in the medium.
The bud quality was a whole different level compared to the low-EC/low-dryback grows with the same clones.

To be honest, I spend years trying to prove myself wrong.
But whenever I pushed high P/K, drybacks and lowered nitrogen/calcium, my bud quality went through the roof again.

Take what you want from it, Im posting this mainly for my future-me.
 

CharlesU Farley

Well-known member
I change my name from time to time. My ego wants me to catalogue my history, but my sensibilities tell me a firebreak is a good. It's not legal here.
I wish I didn't have to though
Completely and totally understand the fire break motivation,. 'm in a Prohibition state here in the US myself. My favorite saying used to be, "It's not paranoia if they _really_ are out to get you... and they are". :)

Luckily for me, the local police really don't care anymore about people growing cannabis, unless they're beating their wives or shooting guns at strangers. :LOL:
 

Rocket Soul

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On man. The post removers. That is so shit. When someone chucks their dummy out the pram, and want it recorded in history. No facts about the matter left, except they are tossers.

Name changes because you are unliked, is really quite sad. To want to stay in a group, that doesn't want you. That's what having no friends really looks like. It would be interesting to see these peoples lives. Though not for long.

I change my name from time to time. My ego wants me to catalogue my history, but my sensibilities tell me a firebreak is a good. It's not legal here.
I wish I didn't have to though
This one is not a case of name changing cause unliked, im pretty sure its a ban cause our plastic friend is not a taggable member anymore. To me the real amazing thing is how easy it is to recognize the patterns to unmask a returning troll.
We once, many moons and years ago had a guy called Nofuckstogive on rius led section. Eventually got banned and came back again under a different alias but it was clear after a few posts that it was the same guy, eventually banned again. All posts deleted. But then a year after some new guy unrelated guy could piece together his replies from citings in other peoples replies and for some reason thought that he must be a underdog genius. It was so frustrating, cause only the least stupid stuff was left (nobody would reply to the most egregious shit). Some people are so contrarian that as soon as they see a differing opinion being spoken against they immediately take the side of craziness. But then again im also somewhat of a contrarian. My pet hate is people who when you state and clear and pointed question slithers away from it by answering with a statement to another question where they have a better argument; then when prompted about replying they say theyve already answered it. But then i should probably not give trolls a handbook in how to piss me off 🤷‍♂️

and also, im digressing; lets keep the thread on track ;) :)
 

Lester Beans

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Veteran
Im well aware of the studies that were done regarding the "perfect" amount of NPK for cannabis.
That 60ppm phosphorus should be enough, potassium is either detrimental or has nearly no influence on yield and/or cannabinoids, etc.

I did no real side-by-sides, but grew the same clones under different feeding and irrigation schedules.
Again and again.
And - I wish it would be otherwise - high EC (specially P and K!), relatively low calcium and hard drybacks always gave me the best quality.
I regularly pushed up to 500ppm K in my feedings and even stacked the EC in the medium.
The bud quality was a whole different level compared to the low-EC/low-dryback grows with the same clones.

To be honest, I spend years trying to prove myself wrong.
But whenever I pushed high P/K, drybacks and lowered nitrogen/calcium, my bud quality went through the roof again.

Take what you want from it, Im posting this mainly for my future-me.
I laughed so hard reading this! Nice, that was hilarious. Well done!
 

Lester Beans

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Just checked your post history, couldnt care less about your opinion.
Get some :lurk: and enjoy the show then!

That was a serious post? My bad, I thought it was written as a joke. Apologies.

It's about exactly opposite of what is proven in horticulture is why I thought you were making a joke. Have fun with your experiments.
 
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