Hey Sundace, how come that you nearly post the exact wording in here as Evan wrote in an email to me yesterday?
anyway, some more comments.
you got me a bit more aroused now:
I did not invest money to have the HH tents analyzed. can I be blamed for that?
was not worth it for me. whatever they used, PVC, PU, or anything, I dont really care.
yes, i might have been too fast to conclude that the probelm lies in the PVC. but looking up properties of PU very roughly, it sounds to me it is not far away from PVC...
(side note) dont get me wrong on that: there also is safe PVC, and i guess there can also be safe PU. it just costs more to produce and to control. a lot of research is being done in that perspective.
but in the end, their boxes killed plants. end of the story. and what harmfull effect did their boxes have on growers? or on warehouse staff? or on the people producing the boxes in china?
did they ever wonder? did they ever care?
did they ever come up with a clear explanation?
did they ever publish a test result?
that they blame the overseas producer, if find quite poor.
we as a responsible supplier:
1. search for a trusted producer,
2. control the production in performing tests,
3. dont just go for the cheap and fast money, but invest a lot into research.
seems like he did not do so. and i feel it is his obligation to do so.
last but not least: i dont think HH did have any other chance then openly admitting their problem. just my personal opinion. all forums were full of people having these serious problems.
even we were asked a hundred times if our products had the same problem as the HH.
my opinion is that they can be lucky to be active in such a small industry. just look at the Melamin-scandal. what consequenses do such companies have to deal with?
for sure there are even worse companies out there, and seechance is one of them. but that, to me, does not make HH a good one.
And if someone feels insulted by me in my previous post. well, i just said how we feel about this issue in total.
how would you feel?
they took our boxes and copied them. they DID NOT make sure they sell proper products. and we as the inventor and cautious producer, were having to deal with the problem they caused. because their boxes looked like ours. and people thought their problems are our problems.
I leave it to all of you to decide if i have the right to be pissed or not.
and it will also be all of you, the consumers, who have to decide if they are going to purchase from such companies again.
I have NO influence on that. besides doing my job as good as i can. which is, making sure that we only bring out the best and most utterly tested and safe portable grow rooms.
Enough about HH from me. but i had to make that point clear.
I am open about further comments, also I am willing to learn, to correct myself if anything I stated is wrong. May the discussion continue. and yes, this turned out to become a very intense post, close to a product comparrison. i hope the forum members see it as what it is. i did not start it. i was asked to jump in as one of the addressed companies, and i try to explain our position.
and please, every tent manufacturer who feels insulted by the words with stars in my previous post: i apologize for making you think i might have thought of words that are insulting.
it was only to stress on the fact how strong we feel about the topic. see it as lyrical freedom to express feelings, not as personal aggression.
anyway, some more comments.
you got me a bit more aroused now:
I did not invest money to have the HH tents analyzed. can I be blamed for that?
was not worth it for me. whatever they used, PVC, PU, or anything, I dont really care.
yes, i might have been too fast to conclude that the probelm lies in the PVC. but looking up properties of PU very roughly, it sounds to me it is not far away from PVC...
(side note) dont get me wrong on that: there also is safe PVC, and i guess there can also be safe PU. it just costs more to produce and to control. a lot of research is being done in that perspective.
but in the end, their boxes killed plants. end of the story. and what harmfull effect did their boxes have on growers? or on warehouse staff? or on the people producing the boxes in china?
did they ever wonder? did they ever care?
did they ever come up with a clear explanation?
did they ever publish a test result?
that they blame the overseas producer, if find quite poor.
we as a responsible supplier:
1. search for a trusted producer,
2. control the production in performing tests,
3. dont just go for the cheap and fast money, but invest a lot into research.
seems like he did not do so. and i feel it is his obligation to do so.
last but not least: i dont think HH did have any other chance then openly admitting their problem. just my personal opinion. all forums were full of people having these serious problems.
even we were asked a hundred times if our products had the same problem as the HH.
my opinion is that they can be lucky to be active in such a small industry. just look at the Melamin-scandal. what consequenses do such companies have to deal with?
for sure there are even worse companies out there, and seechance is one of them. but that, to me, does not make HH a good one.
And if someone feels insulted by me in my previous post. well, i just said how we feel about this issue in total.
how would you feel?
they took our boxes and copied them. they DID NOT make sure they sell proper products. and we as the inventor and cautious producer, were having to deal with the problem they caused. because their boxes looked like ours. and people thought their problems are our problems.
I leave it to all of you to decide if i have the right to be pissed or not.
and it will also be all of you, the consumers, who have to decide if they are going to purchase from such companies again.
I have NO influence on that. besides doing my job as good as i can. which is, making sure that we only bring out the best and most utterly tested and safe portable grow rooms.
Enough about HH from me. but i had to make that point clear.
I am open about further comments, also I am willing to learn, to correct myself if anything I stated is wrong. May the discussion continue. and yes, this turned out to become a very intense post, close to a product comparrison. i hope the forum members see it as what it is. i did not start it. i was asked to jump in as one of the addressed companies, and i try to explain our position.
and please, every tent manufacturer who feels insulted by the words with stars in my previous post: i apologize for making you think i might have thought of words that are insulting.
it was only to stress on the fact how strong we feel about the topic. see it as lyrical freedom to express feelings, not as personal aggression.
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