had my bubblegum mom in a drizo tent for 2 days and now it is showing signs of offgassing....so i took the tent down and back into the closet it goes...how can you treat the leaves so they wont all die, over 50% of them have brown spotting on them...any hope?
You couldn't be more wrong. HH's were never made from PVC and it's been told over and over and over. Secondly, it is the plasticisers from the plastics, not the plastics which outgas. PE and PU don't outgas. Certain plasticisers from any type of plastic will outgas. Only a few plastisicers will hurt plants at miniscule levels.
Homebox quietly changed mfrs a few years ago. I still own a homebox from Europe from 2004. It is very soft plastic just like the others were. Now homebox is a brittle PE. Before homebox changed its plastic there were problems in Spain around 04-05. I am writing to a Spanish wholesaler for his story on this as he swears he had trouble with his hombox sales.
Most importantly, homebox's test is complete crap. Yep, you actually just read me write that. I'll explain: Homebox very slyly ordered their test to the wrong standard. When ordering a plastics test you must specify to what standard you want the plastic tested. Homebox chose children's toys and household items. Big mistake. Children's toys are not enclosed tents with large heat sources, nor are household items. Homeboxes test clearly shows the test standard measured in milligrams. Plasticizers kill plants at the picogram level which means homebox's test couldn't even measure that minute amount because they chose the wrong standard. Why did they do this? They have no clue what the problem is about. To kill a plant it takes picograms to do it. To hurt a human it takes milligrams of that same plasticiser. So, stop wondering if any bad tents hurt humans--they do not. Please start wondering why homebox did this and then included bullshit to make everyone worry about human health. Totally unethical.
Homebox is not pristine and they in fact have a lot to answer for. There is a huge difference betweem 10 to the -3 and 10 to the -12 (where they were required to measure to. They do not and never have understood what makes the plants die. Homebox has been duping the world.
ROL ... I dont know shit .. except ... something like that is so fucking crazy ... and insane
Off the charts crazy - dont you think ?
I got nothing to do with Hydro Hut or shilling anyones product .. I just dont give a fuck and less
I do stand behind, support and recommend good product and people ... Hydro Hut's problem was not intentional .. under the circumstances they have been great to me .. replaced my 2 tents for free with great new product ... and been gentleman about it ... just telling my experience .. and keeping the record straight
Toxic Hydro Hut Tents are history .. and thing of the past ... they have great new product available .. and it kicks ass .. thats fact .. not shilling
What the fuck is the matter with you ? .. after reading your post carefully .. I cant help but conclude that you really are sick .. this is pathetic .. never the less - you need to learn a lesson
For starters ... Here is what you said
and
I answered - see my post above
Whats the matter - you dont like my answer ?
You dont see some problems with any of what they said ?
Thats all I got - and I could care less about Homebox ... as I have said 2 times now .. in fact, I was not going to make my last post, but you asked for it
WTF are you talking about ... I dont quote anyone ... never did such a thing ... why dont you refresh everyone - fact is your so full of shit here you cant ... because it never, ever happened ... laughable
I came across Dirk only once in the thread listed ... as he said himself
I could care less about Dirk .. you .. or Homebox
Your asking for facts .. I provided it ... you dont like the facts - so now I am out to get Homebox ... ROLMAO
Stop typing .. STFU ... go take a shower .. or a nap or something .. and get some help .. you need it .. this is very tiring .. and boring
Your pathetic ... and just wont stop
" Sounds like " .. " Hard to say "
Fact is - you dont know shit, who, what or anything regarding the person who sold these tents .. or if they had anything at all to do with Hydro Hut at all - you should STFU and stop talking about shit you know zero about
Incredible
BTW - its you who handled the off gassing issue poorly .. and are where you are because if it
Yes your free to offer your opinion .. but your speculation is nothing more than speculation .. wild at that ... and nothing more than blabbin your lips .. complete bullshit .. and wrong in fact
Your no expert ... and clearly dont know shit ... Stop speaking for anyone but yourself
Correct Berbes ... Bo lost it ... and fucked up a good, informative thread with personal his attacks ... complete bullshit ... and immature drivel .. he wouldnt let it go ... and got a good bitch slapping in return
Some people dont know when to STFU
Sucks - but all it takes is one, selfish, un-controllable asshole to fuck things up for everyone
Indeed - the new series of Silver Lined tents from Hydro Hut are kick ass
I have 2 new tents .. my plants are in 2 -3 weeks now .. and doing great .. I am very happy with the quality of the tents ... and that my environment is correct
In addition to the Silver Lined series of tents ... Hydro Hut had an ad in Growing Edge Magazine describing their new line of tents coming out called " Stealth Insulator " that is Thermal Insulated and IR Blocked
Hydro Hut has been designing these tents for 2 + years .. toxic thing came up ... Silver Series came up .. and the new line of " Insulator Stealth " should be available in the next 4-6 months
Great idea
www.hydrohuts.com
Hi Homegrow3r .. thanks for the kind words
For the record - I have very little to say about Homebox .. as I have never seen one in person ... and what little I had to say .. was said ... until I was pushed further .. and made post #79 on page 6 of this thread .. a post I was not going to make .. but that I was pushed to .. I kinda like that one .. you should read it again - good reading
Like I have said many times - I bought 2 defective Hydro Hut tents .. got caught up in this mess ... didnt freak .. talked it up ... listened .. learned .. and here I am ... Just an individual grower ... speaking for myself - period
I dont work or get paid by Hydro Hut - but thanks for asking
Oh .. and I only called one guy a moron - and he very much deserves it
Thanks for checking my posts .. you must have a lot of time on your hands ... actually .. I have not posted any pics .. I dont and have never felt the need to show off
But thanks for your very constructive comments
You have a nice day Homey
some people seem offended and take competition personally.
it is as of they resent the idea that anyone would make another hut. how dare anyone make a hut homebox is the only hut.
sadly for these people they dont get it.
competition is a good thing. it can if done properly drive prices down giving us the consumer a great deal of leverage when it comes to purchase power.
so i could care less about who makes what.
the fact is that product problems are sadly part of the game.
the fact one company got hit with most of the blame is likely due to the fact it was outselling most others. but we all know the out gassing was not limited to just one company.
we are not stupid people here.
this issue has been identified.
i don't buy white tents it is as simple as that. and i dont care if they are Hydrohut, homebox, or Secret...... this issue was a result of changes beyond the control of the companies it happened in mfg.. and it could have happened to ANYONE OF THEM!!!
Personally i am not interested in rehashing old BS it is not productive.
what i am interested in is moving forward and seeing better products for ME!!
is Hydrohuts making better products? I would have to say from what i have seen YES.
I would go one step further in saying that you would be less likely to have an issue with a hydrohut due to the issue. you can bet they are watching production like a hawk now. I know i would be if i were them.
Can this or something like it happen again?? sure it can this is how it is.
I do think Hudtohuts above all others who got hit with this was far more forthcoming in trying to resolve it tho. most of these companies simply lied and denied everything and changed formulas.
others did so and flooded the market with bad tents and then claimed they were not their tents and really counterfeit ones. after the offgassing happened tons of bad products hit ebay and other sites.
Hi Dirk
Before I read your drivel ... I thought I would put up your last words to me ... which also turned out to be your last post ... before it was you who ran and went hiding
Just for laughs - here was my reply
That was November 14, 2008
Welcome back from hiding
Care to elaborate ?
I'm gonna read your post now .. perhaps I have something to say later ... prob-lee
Whoops - I see you did
Even is here .. I am sure he will chime in .. and answer for himself ... as he is quite capable of doing ... he dont need my help
This is a pleasure for me ... You turned out to be a major jerk ... your testing procedures an absolute joke ... and your not even close to being a nice guy - it all shows in your posts
Hydro Huts problems with toxicity are over - history .. why continue blabbin your lips ?
Hydro Huts brand new silver series kicks ass ... and I saw an Hydro Huts ad for the new Insulator Stealth - IR Blocked and Thermal Insulated ... a fantastic idea
I am gonna read the rest of your post in a bit ... gotta start the day .. make money - looks like a long boring post .. but just for laughs ... I am sure I will reply later
Hey Benji .. your right .. it sucked .. but it was not done intentionally ... and to this day .. Hydro hut is the only company who admitted their problem .. did something to try and fix it - at their own expense .. didnt work .. pulled product .. didnt sell a single tent for over a year ... and now have great new product out called the Hydro Hut Silver Series
Hydro Hut is replacing their tents for free - if you have a toxic Hydro Hut tent .. and a legitimate claim .. then get in touch with Hydro Hut .. and I am sure they will sort you out
I have 2 tents of the new Hydro Hut Silver Series .. Environment correct .. plants doing great .. I am very happy with all - including construction quality of the tents
Toxic Hydro Hut tents are history
Hydro Hut is moving forward
www.hydrohuts.com
Hey Benji .. your right .. it sucked .. but it was not done intentionally ... and to this day .. Hydro hut is the only company who admitted their problem .. did something to try and fix it - at their own expense .. didnt work .. pulled product .. didnt sell a single tent for over a year ... and now have great new product out called the Hydro Hut Silver Series
Hydro Hut is replacing their tents for free - if you have a toxic Hydro Hut tent .. and a legitimate claim .. then get in touch with Hydro Hut .. and I am sure they will sort you out
I have 2 tents of the new Hydro Hut Silver Series .. Environment correct .. plants doing great .. I am very happy with all - including construction quality of the tents
Toxic Hydro Hut tents are history
Hydro Hut is moving forward
www.hydrohuts.com
WTF - lets play
Wikipedia - very impressive .. we all know everything written in there is true .. and fact ... NOT
Nuclear power industry ? .. Possible risk of nuclear plants ? .. what does that have to do with tents ? .... and plants ? ... not nuclear plants .. pot plants
Or maybe the problem is with you .. besides - why criticize something you don't understand ... don't know the truth about ... or all the facts ?
People were afraid of the unknown .. and from false rumors .. of which you put out a few yourself
ROL .. it was NOT just Hydro Hut that was affected .. many makers were .. and fact is .. at the time ... you .. like everyone else .. did not know what was up
ROL .. I am no rocket scientist either .. and dont care to be .. but whats funny is - your testing your product against " Children's toys " and " Household Goods " ... what does that have to do with 1000+ watts of light .. and constant high heat being run in your boxes ? .. or plants ?
ROL .. but it useless Dirk .. Wasted time, wasted money, for bullshit
Then .. because you think .. it must be so .. fact ... and true for plants
I know nothing .. cant comment ... but where there is ... smoke n fire ... and all that
Yes .. I did ... it was a typo at first ... but your gay friend Bojangles thought it was funny .. while I had no further comment or misspellings .. he kept hamerring .. and hammering me on it .. and then had the nerve to say .. " skeet, skeet, skeet in your face Sundance " .. ROL ... While I am NOT gay .. or even close to being gay .. in all my years on this planet - I have never had a guy say that to me ... I asked everyone ... and I ask you too ... what kind of guy says that to another guy ? .. he must be gay
Well anyway ... thats how " Homobox " got its origins .. and now ... its a new word ... maybe it will find its way to Google and Wikipedia ?
Also Dirk .. apparently English is not your first language .. but you should have thought more about the name you chose ... and how much fun kids of all ages would have messing with it just a little bit
We have a saying in America .. if the name fits - wear it
Well .. thats about it
This got a little personal for me .. as I have been personally attacked by fools like Dirk and Bojangles ... and chose to engage .. rather than be a pussy and look the other way
Anyone interested in tents .. should do their homework ... look at everything out there ... then pick the best ... and what they like best
I just happen to prefer Hydro Huts products ... The new silver lined tents kick ass .. Poles, corners and ceiling are made of steel - strongest on the market ... the guys at Hydro Hut have been absolute gentleman throughout this fucked up mess .. and are now making a much better product because of it