Grow along with AG and son's

[Americangrower]

every time I bring a plant in from the outside its nothing but trouble ..either bugs , or disease , or both ..you would think that we've learned our lessons by now

I knew better but they freakin STUNK so I took a chance and failed badly.

 

[Vanilla Phoenix]

Damn dude...sad day indeed.

 

[Americangrower]

every time I bring a plant in from the outside its nothing but trouble ..either bugs , or disease , or both ..you would think that we've learned our lessons by now

then again maybe I dont know better because I just brought a chem sister x ECSD/C99 male in. I need something to hit the Riri F13 #6 with since I lost everything.

 

[Americangrower]

Damn dude...sad day indeed.

Yeah sucks, I could try and save a few but I am worried in their weak condition they will easily get pm or something. Then the whole cycle will just continue.

 

[star crash]

Believe me when i say i understand the temptation , sometimes its hard to look beyond the beauty of the plant in THAT moment

along the same lines of suddenly realizing that you have too many plants ( I know you know what i mean) .. i just keep cloning and cloning next think you know its like what the F*ck did i do ?!?! i got a boatload of clones at the moment because i don't seem to know when to stop .. I'm going to use then though >> I'm gonna PACK my flower room soon as i can

 

[KP Sunshine]

Sorry to hear!! But I just did the same. Took in some Hashbangers and blueberry to finish. and PM showed up. Cut everything
But I didn't lose any moms
Hope you get shit fixed

 

[Happy Times]

Most were all the moms of the last few seed runs. Like RiriF13 and clones. The elites I lost are GG4, Chem D, MSS, and few others. Time to start again.

Oh man, sorry to hear that AG

 

[Americangrower]

No worries I am blessed with many generous growmies that always have my back. Thanks every1:friends:

 

[gmanwho]

AG, you really should get m-pede.its an omri insecticidal soap. been using it for like 2 years now. if you sprayed or fogged those plants with it when u brought them in, you prob whould have been fine. then a follow up a week later and again. 3 applications an i would have my money that they would have been clean.






that m-pede is a 2 times a month ritual for me. on everything in veg an just into flower. it will kill spider mites, broad mites, aphids an any other leaf sucking insect. it will suffocate pm spores. an as it ages on the leaf the potassium is absorbed. dip or a fogger.... no pump sprayers...



honestly, mpede is a must for me with all the clones an mothers an flower plants i have going on. there is always , always something ready to take over. an now that you have those spores in the area....well, it isnt going anywhere till every spore dies.


hope you can work it out.



bwell man

 

[GOT_BUD?]

Does it come in smaller containers than 2 and a half gallons?

I'm a "try it before fully committing" kind of guy.

 

[Americangrower]

AG, you really should get m-pede.its an omri insecticidal soap. been using it for like 2 years now. if you sprayed or fogged those plants with it when u brought them in, you prob whould have been fine. then a follow up a week later and again. 3 applications an i would have my money that they would have been clean.






that m-pede is a 2 times a month ritual for me. on everything in veg an just into flower. it will kill spider mites, broad mites, aphids an any other leaf sucking insect. it will suffocate pm spores. an as it ages on the leaf the potassium is absorbed. dip or a fogger.... no pump sprayers...



honestly, mpede is a must for me with all the clones an mothers an flower plants i have going on. there is always , always something ready to take over. an now that you have those spores in the area....well, it isnt going anywhere till every spore dies.


hope you can work it out.



bwell man

Have taking everything out of veg/work room's. Sprayed with bleach and with potassium bicarbonate. Just picked up a gal of concrobium going to hit everything 1 or 2 more times. Then paint everything white. Then finish off with a few sulfur burns. I will beat it but I can't treat the whole yard so the battle never really ends.

Was chatting with TC he said a Foamer simpson and BioSafe Zero Trol 2.0 is the way to go. I do like the idea of foam but $$ is always an issue. Will try and get boyz to pony up. LOL.

Does it come in smaller containers than 2 and a half gallons?

I'm a "try it before fully committing" kind of guy.

Yeah thats the problem with ZeroTrol as well. Damn it I don't have a greenhouse. I only need 1 gallon.

 

[Americangrower]

So back to the ladies.. This is Tin Foil Hat bred by Mota about to start week 7.

 

[star crash]

AG that looks really good ^^^

AG, you really should get m-pede.its an omri insecticidal soap. been using it for like 2 years now. if you sprayed or fogged those plants with it when u brought them in, you prob whould have been fine. then a follow up a week later and again. 3 applications an i would have my money that they would have been clean.
that m-pede is a 2 times a month ritual for me. on everything in veg an just into flower. it will kill spider mites, broad mites, aphids an any other leaf sucking insect. it will suffocate pm spores. an as it ages on the leaf the potassium is absorbed. dip or a fogger.... no pump sprayers...
honestly, mpede is a must for me with all the clones an mothers an flower plants i have going on. there is always , always something ready to take over. an now that you have those spores in the area....well, it isnt going anywhere till every spore dies.
hope you can work it out.
bwell man

Gman i just ordered up the 2.5 gallons jug of M-Pede based on your recommendations ..thx

 

[Vanilla Phoenix]

AG, you really should get m-pede.its an omri insecticidal soap. been using it for like 2 years now. if you sprayed or fogged those plants with it when u brought them in, you prob whould have been fine. then a follow up a week later and again. 3 applications an i would have my money that they would have been clean.






that m-pede is a 2 times a month ritual for me. on everything in veg an just into flower. it will kill spider mites, broad mites, aphids an any other leaf sucking insect. it will suffocate pm spores. an as it ages on the leaf the potassium is absorbed. dip or a fogger.... no pump sprayers...



honestly, mpede is a must for me with all the clones an mothers an flower plants i have going on. there is always , always something ready to take over. an now that you have those spores in the area....well, it isnt going anywhere till every spore dies.


hope you can work it out.



bwell man

Was thinking about ordering some myself. Why don’t you recommend using in a pump sprayer? And do you use it at recommended strength? Do you use something to help it stick like soap?

 

[Americangrower]

Helena week 6.. stinks like a stardawg or chem .. garlic funk

 

[gmanwho]

Was thinking about ordering some myself. Why don’t you recommend using in a pump sprayer? And do you use it at recommended strength? Do you use something to help it stick like soap?

i dip or fog cause i get better coverage that way. all it takes is missing one spot. there are a few days it stays active so when the sucking insect moves over it will get a dose. but u really need to hit both sides of the leaf, the petiole an the main stalk. then the spots in between the leaf veins.



pump sprayer just doesnt do the same coverage, so i dip plants when they are smaller an more manageable. then fog when they are to big or locked into a trellis.



also a fogger heats up the liquid just before its atomized. the coverage is amazing. u really need to step up staking the main branches thou cause the fogger is like a 100mph hurricane wind. it just blasts the leaves an u need to be a few feet away when fogging. the first time i was like holy shit its gonna destroy my plants, an it will if you dont stake properly.


i have the petra back pack atomizer fogger from amazon. it is cumbersome an awkward at first. it also needs to be plugged in to 120v. i havent tried a battery one, i know one person who has the ryobi battery powered one an hates it.



if u watch the mpede when it mixes with water its amazing that it just doesnt curdle an separate. its like mixing oil an water, but it does dissolve well. then with the heat from the fogger/atomizer it makes it spread very nice. an then add in some light cal mag, or pk, an i treat/prevent an foliar feed at the same time.



M-Pede at 25-30mill per gallon works well. i used to run more MPG but it really can cause a stunt situation if plant doesnt take it well. no extra surfactent needed. an ya the smallest M-pede bottle i seen is 2.5 gal.



a respirator is needed when fogging an gotta cover any electrical outlets or dont spray them dirrectly. i fog at lights off and a few hours before lights on. turn dehumidifiers off, let the room stay as humid as possible for a few hours, then turn dehumidifiers back on hour or 2 before lights on.




an ag, on my way out to my garage i walk by a row of lilacs that are covered with pm every fall. between the bi weekly m-pede an proper dehummidification pm would show up for certain. but it hasnt... i had pm a few off times during late flower before.


Sulfuring the room, and running a commercial ozone generator inbetween runs also helps.



i believe zerotol is just overpriced hydrogen peroxide with a 1-2% peroxyacetic acid( which is the concetrated form of hydrogen peroxide, unitil its activated or freed up upon exposure to organic compounds) an ya the foam is good as it creates a barrier increasing the exposure time of what ever sterilization product u are using.

 

[Americangrower]

i dip or fog cause i get better coverage that way. all it takes is missing one spot. there are a few days it stays active so when the sucking insect moves over it will get a dose. but u really need to hit both sides of the leaf, the petiole an the main stalk. then the spots in between the leaf veins.



pump sprayer just doesnt do the same coverage, so i dip plants when they are smaller an more manageable. then fog when they are to big or locked into a trellis.



also a fogger heats up the liquid just before its atomized. the coverage is amazing. u really need to step up staking the main branches thou cause the fogger is like a 100mph hurricane wind. it just blasts the leaves an u need to be a few feet away when fogging. the first time i was like holy shit its gonna destroy my plants, an it will if you dont stake properly.


i have the petra back pack atomizer fogger from amazon. it is cumbersome an awkward at first. it also needs to be plugged in to 120v. i havent tried a battery one, i know one person who has the ryobi battery powered one an hates it.



if u watch the mpede when it mixes with water its amazing that it just doesnt curdle an separate. its like mixing oil an water, but it does dissolve well. then with the heat from the fogger/atomizer it makes it spread very nice. an then add in some light cal mag, or pk, an i treat/prevent an foliar feed at the same time.



25-30mill per gallon works well, i used to run more but it really can cause a stunt if plant doesnt take it well. no extra surfactent needed. an ya the smallest i seen is 2.5 gal.



a respirator is needed when fogging an gotta cover any electrical outlets or dont spray them dirrectly. i fog at lights off and a few hours before lights on. turn dehumidifiers off, let the room stay as humid as possible for a few hours, then turn dehumidifiers back on hour or 2 before lights on.




an ag, on my way out to my garage i walk by a row of lilacs that are covered with pm every fall. between the bi weekly m-pede an proper dehummidification pm would show up. but it hasnt...


i believe zerotol is just overpriced hydrogen peroxide with a 1-2% peroxyacetic acid( which is the concetrated form of hydrogen peroxide, unitil its activated or freed up upon exposure to organic compounds) an ya the foam is good as it creates a barrier increasing the exposure time of what ever sterilization product u are using.

Yeah I looked it up when he told me it.
My understanding of the ingredient's is H2o2 and vinegar at least thats what I get out of the label.

 

[gmanwho]

Yeah I looked it up when he told me it.
My understanding of the ingredient's is H2o2 and vinegar at least thats what I get out of the label.

just to clarify, vinegar is used to make organic food grade hydrogen peroxide.



If you want to go the higher concentrated cheaper route then zerotol, look into envirotech peracetic products. like their peragreen or bioside 15. key points is the number following the name is the % of peracetic acid in the product.


i bought a 5 or 6 gal of of bioside 15% for like $260 shipped. that 5 gallon will last a long time. have to use less. pm me if you want a few quarts to try.


bwell

 

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

Looking good bud!

 

[Americangrower]

A few of these are def going to get popped. Just dusted 1 lil lower of the COC #4.
Seeds are (Chem Trail x Chem D/ Sour D ibl) x (Chem Trail x Trop cookies)
Bud pics was the seeded bud before deseeding. Smoked the bud even at 50 days it has a next relaxing high.