griffin tek cloning

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[Cvh]

Thanks for sharing!

 

[Creeperpark]

Thanks. Very helpful

 

[bajode5]

It's a nice tech, but are too much inputs and obviously all of them are expensive... Anyone else are trying to use some input alternatives?

 

[bajode5]

For any interested... An an alternative, i don't try it still but its a cheap way to get the same main components.

1. **Hormex**:
- **Basic component**: Indole-3-butyric acid (IBA) and vitamin B1 (thiamine).
- **Economical alternative**: Buy indole-3-butyric acid powder and dissolve it in distilled water at a concentration of 0.1-0.4%. Vitamin B1 can be purchased in tablet form and dissolved in water.

2. **UC Roots**:
- **Basic component**: Diluted sodium hypochlorite (bleach) at a safe concentration for plants.
- **Economical alternative**: Dilute common bleach (5.25-6% sodium hypochlorite) in distilled water to achieve a concentration of approximately 0.01%.

3. **Clonex**:
- **Basic component**: Indole-3-butyric acid (IBA), naphthaleneacetic acid (NAA), and a gel base.
- **Economical alternative**: Create a solution of IBA and NAA powders dissolved in distilled water. For the gel, aloe vera can be used as a natural and economical base.

### Modified Technique:

#### Cleaning the Cloner:
1. **Previous issues (brown roots/stem, pythium)**:
- Use gloves.
- Disassemble the cloner and pump entirely.
- Clean all surfaces with a clean brush, hot water, and 5 ml/gal of bleach.
- Reassemble.

2. **Standard cleaning**:
- Rinse permaclone collars in hot water and remove any debris.
- Fill the cloner with hot water and 5 ml/gal of bleach.
- Run for more than 8 hours.
- Drain, fill with tap water, and rinse for 2 minutes.
- Drain and sterilize the collars using any permaclone method.

#### Cloning:
1. **Preparing the cloner**:
- Fill with RO water from a sterile reservoir.
- Add a solution of dissolved indole-3-butyric acid (IBA) (0.1-0.4%) and vitamin B1 (thiamine).
- Adjust pH to 6.0.
- Install collars with gloves.
- Add a diluted bleach solution (0.01%), let run for 15 minutes.

2. **Taking clones**:
- Take large clones with approximately 6 to 8 nodes on top.
- Make the cut half an inch below a node and clean up 2-3 inches of stem.
- Place all cuts in a cup of RO water and the diluted bleach solution (0.01%) while taking clones.

3. **Preparing the clones**:
- Make a fresh cut immediately before adding each clone at the base of the closest node.
- This helps prevent embolisms and facilitates rooting.

4. **Adding solutions**:
- Add more of the diluted bleach solution (0.01%), let run for 15 minutes.
- Add a solution of IBA and NAA dissolved in distilled water, using aloe vera as the gel base.

5. **Maintenance**:
- Add the diluted bleach solution (0.01%) every other day.
- On day 7, drain and fill with RO water, adjust pH to 6.0, turn on the cloner, and add more IBA and NAA solution in aloe vera gel. Completely eliminate the IBA and vitamin B1 solution used initially.

This modification should help reduce costs by using basic and accessible components.

 

[Stone]

For any interested... An an alternative, i don't try it still but its a cheap way to get the same main components.

1. **Hormex**:
- **Basic component**: Indole-3-butyric acid (IBA) and vitamin B1 (thiamine).
- **Economical alternative**: Buy indole-3-butyric acid powder and dissolve it in distilled water at a concentration of 0.1-0.4%. Vitamin B1 can be purchased in tablet form and dissolved in water.

2. **UC Roots**:
- **Basic component**: Diluted sodium hypochlorite (bleach) at a safe concentration for plants.
- **Economical alternative**: Dilute common bleach (5.25-6% sodium hypochlorite) in distilled water to achieve a concentration of approximately 0.01%.

3. **Clonex**:
- **Basic component**: Indole-3-butyric acid (IBA), naphthaleneacetic acid (NAA), and a gel base.
- **Economical alternative**: Create a solution of IBA and NAA powders dissolved in distilled water. For the gel, aloe vera can be used as a natural and economical base.

### Modified Technique:

#### Cleaning the Cloner:
1. **Previous issues (brown roots/stem, pythium)**:
- Use gloves.
- Disassemble the cloner and pump entirely.
- Clean all surfaces with a clean brush, hot water, and 5 ml/gal of bleach.
- Reassemble.

2. **Standard cleaning**:
- Rinse permaclone collars in hot water and remove any debris.
- Fill the cloner with hot water and 5 ml/gal of bleach.
- Run for more than 8 hours.
- Drain, fill with tap water, and rinse for 2 minutes.
- Drain and sterilize the collars using any permaclone method.

#### Cloning:
1. **Preparing the cloner**:
- Fill with RO water from a sterile reservoir.
- Add a solution of dissolved indole-3-butyric acid (IBA) (0.1-0.4%) and vitamin B1 (thiamine).
- Adjust pH to 6.0.
- Install collars with gloves.
- Add a diluted bleach solution (0.01%), let run for 15 minutes.

2. **Taking clones**:
- Take large clones with approximately 6 to 8 nodes on top.
- Make the cut half an inch below a node and clean up 2-3 inches of stem.
- Place all cuts in a cup of RO water and the diluted bleach solution (0.01%) while taking clones.

3. **Preparing the clones**:
- Make a fresh cut immediately before adding each clone at the base of the closest node.
- This helps prevent embolisms and facilitates rooting.

4. **Adding solutions**:
- Add more of the diluted bleach solution (0.01%), let run for 15 minutes.
- Add a solution of IBA and NAA dissolved in distilled water, using aloe vera as the gel base.

5. **Maintenance**:
- Add the diluted bleach solution (0.01%) every other day.
- On day 7, drain and fill with RO water, adjust pH to 6.0, turn on the cloner, and add more IBA and NAA solution in aloe vera gel. Completely eliminate the IBA and vitamin B1 solution used initially.

This modification should help reduce costs by using basic and accessible components.

I’m always going with the homemade versions to avoid the green tax.

I came to ask if anyone knows what uc roots actives are?
I think it might be calcium hypochlorite, not sodium.
Cal hypochlorite is going to be a better alternative anyway.
Replaced the sodium we don’t want with calcium we do.
Preserves all the benefits we’re looking for from chlorine also.

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

The data sheet for uc roots says it is hypochlorous acid. It’s a sanitizer and descaler.

Reverse engineering canna products is great.

Has anyone tried running their bubble cloner without rooting hormone?

Peace

 

[Stone]

Calcium hypochlorite wouldn’t be interchangeable with hypochlorous acid.
But I’d recommend calcium hypochlorite (pool shock) in place of bleach.

Also hypochlorous acid generators are pretty cheap and would make many many bottles of uc roots.

 

[CocoNut 420]

The data sheet for uc roots says it is hypochlorous acid. It’s a sanitizer and descaler.

Reverse engineering canna products is great.

Has anyone tried running their bubble cloner without rooting hormone?

Peace

Tap water no nutrient with airstones and air pump or a powerhead aquarium pump to agitate the water.

There's no noise from the powerhead and it heats the water a little so that's what I use these days with my cloner.

I made it with a paint scuttle.