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Zembretti

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Why thank you Mr Pistil!
Most people associate Sativa strains with thin and wispy, but when I got My Oaxacan bag weed back in 1978 They were quite large lightly seeded spears.
I picked every seed and into the garden they went that next Spring but I had started them under fluorecsent lights but Into the garden they finally went. I learned sexing plants through High Times Magazine and a Marijuana growers guide book that I bought at a head shop when I was 17. Any way back then my gardens were carved out of clearings in the forest, this one garden was between north and south bound lanes on the interstate, with a stream that ran under the highway through a large culvert. I put the well grown Oaxacan Gold seedlings in the back of a large hand tilled bed amended heavily with manure and chicken compost, The front of the bed was some locally available Indica that finished at the end of Sept. The Oaxacan towards the back because they were already taller, and then the Oaxacan Gold towered, way over everything there. I let them run until mid Oct where the Oax was the only greenery in yellowing brown Fall landscape, The plants got slammed with Fall rains, But not a stitch of mold. The Oax plants finished at about 9 feet tall by mid Oct and the buds were bigger than as mans arm. Thanks to HT Mag and my grow guide I learned and pollinated one large bud on each of about 12 plants with pollen I carried in, in a baby food jar, from several males I kept in pots back home. I could never imagine growing bigger buds of that quality covered in crystal and smelling like a sweet balsam Christmas tree farm. That was in 1979. I have kept her going since then.
This one has made a lot of people laugh to the point of tears over the many years.
Wow I love that story, reminds me so much of growing some type of Colombian (probably Punta Roja) in Nova Scotia in 1975. I accidently ate too much the first time testing it after fermenting it a bit. Only weed that made me hallucinate so much I saw an elf riding a chopped motorcylce come straight out of my TV. And people say weed can't make you hallucinate.
 
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vermontman

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Nice story! I had a similar exp. in '72. I had a green thumb for veggies, but didn't know wtf I was doing with weed! My crop was in the back of our large veg. garden. One memory that stands out is how f'ing green they were when everything else was brown! They were 6-7' tall and I thought for sure that the neighbors would see them and squeal!

I recently picked up a Zapotec S1 (Highland Oaxacan Gold x Santa Marta Colombian Gold) and Oaxacan S1 (from the desc. - "Gifted from a friend of a friend who worked in Oaxaca on an energy lease. Amazing aromas of cedar, mint, pine, incense, citrus, floral.) from Colorado Sativas. Familiar with CS? Can't run them until fall, but looking forward to it.

I've got one of your Zacatecas Tributes going now. I'll shoot a pic in day or two.
Hello Mr P!
Thank you!
Yes those were the days! We were all so green then when it came to canna culture.
Sounds like a wonderful line up you have there be interested to see you run on them.
yes I have heard of CS, but I really do not know much about them.
So please keep us posted!
 

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Wow I love that story, reminds me so much of growing some type of Colombian (probably Punta Roja) in Nova Scotia in 1975. I accidently ate too much the first time testing and it after fermenting it a bit. Only weed that made me hallucinate so much I saw an elf riding a chopped motorcylce come straight out of my TV. And people say weed can't make you hallucinate.
I had an experience when I had burned out my throat on to much product, I ate 1/4 ounce of Columbian Gold I wished I was hallucinating, but I only woke up from my semi coma for intervals long enough to heave, NO FUN!! HAHA
I did smoke some weed many years ago that made everything look like cartoons to me.
that was quite interesting.
 

vermontman

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Did you plant all those veggies when you got back south? Doesn't seem that long ago that you got back, so am assuming that they weren't from seed. But, i've never gardened that far south...
Hey NM!
Yes they have been growing for just about three months from seed the only thing not from seed is my tomato from cutting and parley I dug up and brought down with me.
The red onions are from purchased starts that came in small bundles, from seeds carrots, lettuce beets daikon radish and all the rest are mostly Asian greens that grow very fast and can be eaten like salads or cooked. But yes things do grow fast here,
SO DO THE PESTS! HAHA
 

vermontman

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Found some time this afternoon. Seeds popped 12/9. Into 1gal 12/26. Culled a male on 1/7. Flipped Jan 8. Tp'ed to 5gal on 1/12.

First pic taken on 1/10, Next 2 today. Note the double serration in the last pic. Is that typical for the ZT?

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NICE WORK!!
The double serrate is a trait brought in by the Oaxacan Gold I actually just noticed that a few weeks ago on a side by side grow. Thank you for sharing,
Please keep us posted!
 

vermontman

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Really impressive PineApple Banana Bud female selection :love: @Hmong !
The purple Oaxacan is stunning as well @vermontman :bigeye:

Happy to announce we have finally received a bigger re stock on Mountain Gold (also for Purple Satellite and Green Mountain Grape) :

Great to see you here @dubi!
And thank you!
I know it is hard to see it, this is actually my green or original selection of Oax, Everything I grow under these LEDS gets purple tinge to their pigments. Outdoors this clones mom was as green as can be, not a hint of purple, even with cold and frost, she doesn't even look like the same plant.
The Purlple Oax line grows purple under sunlight and grows really dark purple pigments under the LEDS. I discovered the purple pigment with The first Oaxacan Gold I started
flowering under these lights, that is how I saw the purple pigments and selected from there
for the most purple, It then became a fixed trait in the purple line.
The other thing that happened is the Oax Purple Line developed a more lavender fragrance. Where the green line has more of a lemon pledge, balsam fir fragrance.
I use the green line for Mountain Gold And the Purple Line for Purple Satellite and then into Green Mountain Grape where the lavender fragrance takes on much more of the fruity tones,
I am pleased my friend was able to take care of you!
CHEERS!

For comparison:
Same Clone C mother of indoor Oax grown above, but
grown in the great outdoors.



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Hmong

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Is she your keeper?

after showing a late banana I don't know anymore
now I'm down to one potential stable cut, and even that's suspect
another plant ended up with a ton of live nanners and pollinated some others in the tent
now it's hard to tell which plants seeds are from where, when smoke testing and evaluating each pheno. could be from itself or stray pollen, you can only guess
overall, I have now seen herming in 5 out of 6 females from of the 8 seeds I had
some very bad some less
considering that, I likely won't keep any clones around and just trash the worst ones, and flower those with only a few nanners in quarts for pollination, with various pollen collected over the last months.

here she is one last time
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damn it!
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Nannymouse

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Quite a while back, i grew some chocolate thai and crosses under flurple l.e.d. and they all were very dark color. Thought that they might be lacking something, but they looked healthy and happy. When taken into a gh, they reverted to green. The gh all got pulled, so always wondered if they would have gone back to their dark color when the weather turned cold.

Maybe any plants done under those lights would have turned dark, i don't know. So, it is just the lights and not some sort of soil deficiency?
 

vermontman

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after showing a late banana I don't know anymore
now I'm down to one potential stable cut, and even that's suspect
another plant ended up with a ton of live nanners and pollinated some others in the tent
now it's hard to tell which plants seeds are from where, when smoke testing and evaluating each pheno. could be from itself or stray pollen, you can only guess
overall, I have now seen herming in 5 out of 6 females from of the 8 seeds I had
some very bad some less
considering that, I likely won't keep any clones around and just trash the worst ones, and flower those with only a few nanners in quarts for pollination, with various pollen collected over the last months.

here she is one last time
full

full


damn it!
full

full
I find that is a trait in the Mulanje being a wilder strain, and seems to be more light specific.
Right now I am doing a repro of my first two lines of Mulanje, 8 from one line but specifically the 3 from the short line all in sun, not a herm last time I ran this line under lights every one hermed, though I never had any of the PBB herm under lights, and I ran them for a number of years. So I strongly suspect it has to do with the type of lights setting off that trait? I currently only grow Mulanje for my family and friends because of her unigue sheer power and great fragrance and flavor. Really sorry about your crop, hope you will be able to pull some goodness out of them.
 
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vermontman

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Quite a while back, i grew some chocolate thai and crosses under flurple l.e.d. and they all were very dark color. Thought that they might be lacking something, but they looked healthy and happy. When taken into a gh, they reverted to green. The gh all got pulled, so always wondered if they would have gone back to their dark color when the weather turned cold.

Maybe any plants done under those lights would have turned dark, i don't know. So, it is just the lights and not some sort of soil deficiency?
My best guess is it was the lights again that brought out that trait. I grew Black Afghani Heirloom and I was told it was the darkest Black Afghani anyone had seen, I also believe the lights can bring out some unusually good terps. That being said I really love outdoor sun grown cannabis.
 

Hmong

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@vermontman it's fine! I don't mind growing the tricky stuff
the way my conditions are at times, plants are getting stressed a lot.
only the plants that show no issues are true keepers.
If conditions are better, usually stuff doesn't show as easy and can be misleading
As you say, I also very rarely had bananas or straight up herming in sun grown plants.

those plants had just been getting it all, too big, lights too close and low humidity due to it being winter outside.

strong stuff though, I already had a test nug from the first dried branches and was shitfaced
 
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vermontman

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@vermontman it's fine! I don't mind growing the tricky stuff
the way my conditions are at times, plants are getting stressed a lot.
only the plants that show no issues are true keepers.
If conditions are better, usually stuff doesn't show as easy and can be misleading
As you say, I also very rarely had bananas or straight up herming in sun grown plants.

those plants had just been getting it all, too big, lights too close and low humidity due to it being winter outside.

strong stuff though, I already had a test nug from the first dried branches and was shitfaced
That's cool
really looking forward to seeing your final product and I appreciate you posting your progress.
 

Zembretti

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What a great thread, I'm wondering if anyone can give a rundown on Mountain Gold besides ACE's description, A smoke report would be nice, Vermontman I believe you are the one who deveoped this strain, do you think it would mature by mid October in British Columbia?
 

vermontman

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Hello @Zambretti
Yes that is me, If you google seed finder {one word}
Mountain Gold
You will find more in depth info there. To be honest I know at your higher latitude you have longer daylight hours during summer into Fall so it may be tight, but I think it would fly there. At 42 North I have had Mountain Gold finish from end of Sept to the second week into Oct, especially important is to have plants started early with this one because chronological age is a factor with the Oaxacan, for bud size and quality. I start plants under lights April 15th they go out June first, that gives them a great head start.
Hope that helps.
 

Zembretti

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Hello @Zambretti
Yes that is me, If you google seed finder {one word}
Mountain Gold
You will find more in depth info there. To be honest I know at your higher latitude you have longer daylight hours during summer into Fall so it may be tight, but I think it would fly there. At 42 North I have had Mountain Gold finish from end of Sept to the second week into Oct, especially important is to have plants started early with this one because chronological age is a factor with the Oaxacan, for bud size and quality. I start plants under lights April 15th they go out June first, that gives them a great head start.
Hope that helps.
Thank you, Vermontman, I've grown some sativas here and they can mature, the purplle satelite matured way before the others last year so perhaps I'll have some luck. The Mulanji sounds incredible. I used to live in southern Africa so I'm familiar with Sotho, Cape Town pot, and of course Malawi Wowie (what we called cobbed Malawi.)
 

vermontman

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Thank you, Vermontman, I've grown some sativas here and they can mature, the purplle satelite matured way before the others last year so perhaps I'll have some luck. The Mulanji sounds incredible. I used to live in southern Africa so I'm familiar with Sotho, Cape Town pot, and of course Malawi Wowie (what we called cobbed Malawi.)
@Zembretii you are welcome!
Must have been terrific seeing fresh African right from the source. Though you also are in a phenomenal melting pot of great cannabis genetics I traveled to Vancouver multiple times to seek seeds, my best score was the Federation's Hawaiian Sativa.
 

vermontman

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GREEN MOUNTAIN GRAPE
Mom of fem seeds with end of flower cosmetic nanners, but not a seed in sight. I am most sure the nanners are the Nepali Highland Sativa in the genetics and the ubrupt cut in light cycle of 12/12, but again mostly cosmetic.

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