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[WestShoreBestShore]

So, my goal for this past growing season was to grow some weed that could be sold in a dispensary. I just got one great feedback report about my Mountain Gold grow from one of my dispensary friends. Then, today. I gave some samples to the guy at my grow shop, and another dispensary person, who is quite sophisticated. They both were impressed with the first impression smell test, and with the tightness and visual of the buds themselves. Look forward to hearing about the blaze test! Thanks again vermontman. None of them had heard of this strain or vermontman! There is SOOOOO much out there, but the proof is in the blazing. Glad to be a promoter of some excellent landrace seeds and product!


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From one of the dispo employees from what I dropped off today - happens to be my former student:
"Oaxacan x Hawaiian was awesome dude. So nice to get some properly looked after old-school. The pheno you put in the bag had great representations of Hawaiian on the palate and leaned oaxaca on the potency but didn't get overwhelming. Superb dry as well. Immediate onset behind the eyes and never goes to the body which is a proof of lineage. Supremely smooth ride and conversational herb for sure. Left the room smelling like the sweet end of nag champa incense, another indicator of its lineage. Awesome stuff dude was a pleasure to smoke!!" I'll take that as a compliment!

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[Old Piney]

So, my goal for this past growing season was to grow some weed that could be sold in a dispensary

At least here in New Jersey you're out of luck unless it looks like captain crunch berries

 

[vermontman]

So, my goal for this past growing season was to grow some weed that could be sold in a dispensary. I just got one great feedback report about my Mountain Gold grow from one of my dispensary friends. Then, today. I gave some samples to the guy at my grow shop, and another dispensary person, who is quite sophisticated. They both were impressed with the first impression smell test, and with the tightness and visual of the buds themselves. Look forward to hearing about the blaze test! Thanks again vermontman. None of them had heard of this strain or vermontman! There is SOOOOO much out there, but the proof is in the blazing. Glad to be a promoter of some excellent landrace seeds and product!


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Hello @WestShoreBestShore!
Man thank you so much for your endorsement, it really means a lot to me. I must say also you did a terrific job on the grow there. Thank you for also for sharing your pics!
STELLAR!

Nice work with all those smoke/grow reports for PS in one post @vermontman Much appreciated.

I would be very interested to hear from yourself and everyone else about tolerance build up from purple satellite, it seems to be the one part that’s missing from most strain reports and imo is a very important factor.

You are most welcome @FTL!
These are all others quotes I pulled together obviously off different threads. For me it is rewarding to see people happy, and in some cases getting true medicine to get through life a little easier.
CHEERS ALL!

 

[vermontman]

At least here in New Jersey you're out of luck unless it looks like captain crunch berries

Hello @Old Piney!
I SOOOOOOO hear you!
It's like back some years ago people would rave! It's hydroponic!
Whaaaat?!
But fads sell. Then it was medical! HHHMMNNN. But we live in a McDonalds Walmart world, not that they don't have there place. But just my opinion people now seem to be willing to pay almost twice as much for that than a good wholesome food. It's to me crazy! But I know I am a minority but I think as we go further some more if not many will get it's not about the pretty convenient package and more about the substance of what's in it. That is why I hang on to hope on all levels.

 

[vermontman]

From one of the dispo employees from what I dropped off today - happens to be my former student:
"Oaxacan x Hawaiian was awesome dude. So nice to get some properly looked after old-school. The pheno you put in the bag had great representations of Hawaiian on the palate and leaned oaxaca on the potency but didn't get overwhelming. Superb dry as well. Immediate onset behind the eyes and never goes to the body which is a proof of lineage. Supremely smooth ride and conversational herb for sure. Left the room smelling like the sweet end of nag champa incense, another indicator of its lineage. Awesome stuff dude was a pleasure to smoke!!" I'll take that as a compliment!

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Hey @WestShoreBestShore!
as a continuation of my last posted response, this is where if find my hope that keeps me keepin on!
I truly believe that there will be people like all you here that get it and again it's my driving force!
THANK YOU!
CHEERS ALL!

 

[vermontman]

Gotta love this one!


Sorry!
I just decided to leave all politics out!
So no post on this one.

 

[FTL]

Hello @Old Piney!
I SOOOOOOO hear you!
It's like back some years ago people would rave! It's hydroponic!
Whaaaat?!
But fads sell. Then it was medical! HHHMMNNN. But we live in a McDonalds Walmart world, not that they don't have there place. But just my opinion people now seem to be willing to pay almost twice as much for that than a good wholesome food. It's to me crazy! But I know I am a minority but I think as we go further some more if not many will get it's not about the pretty convenient package and more about the substance of what's in it. That is why I hang on to hope on all levels.

Exactly why I posted the old photos of the canyon gold.

Trends and tastes move to extremes then die as the next wave(generational trend) sweeps in. They tend to have a cyclical or pendulum like nature to them.

I don’t know what will cause this next shift but the current “cookies” trend will
dissipate and be replaced.

I remember reading an article from R in an old nigh times mag. he hypothesised that During the changing of eras like the shift from 70s to 80s people wanted different highs. the collective. vibe changed so to speak.

He also noted other drugs also had an influence(or were influenced from the collective vibe/culture/trend) .

Eg The shift from acid culture to coke and qualude. Saw a shift from Mexican to Colombian and Thai.

Imo We seem to be at peak, Or just past, Xanax/Opiate culture now imo. Heavy Inbred “kush” types.

There appears to also be a resurgent interest in psychedelics too. Micro dosing in corporate, therapeutic use in medicine and a more people using it again as recreation. Is this part of the next wave?

What I’m trying to say is I think the time of good clear happy sativa, that isn’t judged on looks but effect, Is coming., Along with a collective shift in the collective vibe(bit hippy I know ). Either due to the Next generation of trend makers coming through or due to cultural shifts stemming from existential events.

Who knows why?

The one thing I do know is that trends never last and something new, or recycled , will replace the current trend.

To loop back around the canyon gold of old could be the mountain gold of tomorow.


Would love to hear any one else’s opinions on this .

(Sorry for the early morning pseudo philosophical ramble guys)

Edit: Attached is the article written by R in 78 or 79.

 

[Old Piney]

Yes I do believe thing loop around and I don't think it will be long before the trend changes and folks come to their senses. Although for some reason I think legal weed dispensaries aren‘t helping the cause.

 

[TexasTea]

Unfortunately economics of growing will keep on favoring the current dispensary trends and if anything, it will get worse. It simply costs too much for them to grow anything beyond 7-8 weeks and without heavy yield and compact growth habits. But, like in craft brewing, there can always be a niche for other cultivars. And the home growers can continue to preserve these other genetics. But Joe Budweiser just wants to get shit faced with 30% THC and doesn't care about sativa's or their nuances. JMO having watched a lot of trends.

 

[exoticrobotic]

But Joe Budweiser just wants to get shit faced with 30% THC and doesn't care about sativa's or their nuances.

These are to appeal to the teenagers glamourising a crystally crusty nug in a fancy holographic packet.

When i was 17 i wanted to get shitfaced too. I doubt i could perceive any difference in Sativa's nuances at that age. I wanted to get shitfaced and i could do this very easily. and did

Over the years of a regular cannabis smoker it becomes ingrained within the person's very being and becomes an ally and a therapeutic tool. At this point people either get freaked and give it up or go full on mode.

These people that have a love of cannabis nurtured over many years mostly end up growing sativas to get a 3d effect but for sale into an oversaturated market it just isnt gonna happen cos like you said if you're selling it you want a 7 week high weight strain, not a 14 week half yielding strain.

Luckily there are lots of people that love these sativas and their effects enough to make them available in seed form, but to try them, you can't buy them, you gotta grow them.

 

[TexasTea]

I think of it like tomatoes. Sure, you can easily find pretty looking fruits at the store, but usually with not much flavor. And maybe even some half decent ones from time to time. But if you want the best tomato you ever tasted you gotta grow it yourself, or buy it from a craft grower.

 

[bonghopper]

Hello @bonghopper!
To be totally transparent and open The mother was a new trial of Oaxacan 1979 which I just aquaired last year and she was very pricey for the seed. She grew very similar in structure, fragrance, bud formation and flowering time but though not weak not quite as potent as my best Oaxacan trans female which I crossed with to make this version of feminized seed. That being said the Nepali I used in Purple Satellite was lovely but not quite as potent as my Oaxacan Gold line, but in my earlier descriptions of Purple Satellite the potency was bumped up immensely by my Oaxacan Gold as well as everything I cross with her carries through in quality so by all accounts she should still be quite lovely.
Because of the high demand I released her early without doing grow out tests myself. So I am looking forward to the response from others with grow and smoke reports.
I always want to be transparent and I am open to to all positive and negative responses so I can adjust and improve on my work.
Hope that helps.

Hey Vman, hope all is well, you gone south for winter?

Have you only grown that new Oaxacan 79 indoors? Still sounds good, is it less potent in a way that defines it's effects - gentler, more functional?
From your observations, is it as early as your line? I'm only interested in these outdoors.

Well, you'll certainly get your money back on that one at 90 for a 5 pack..

Potency alone is not descriptive enough for the sativa heads, there's a lot of folk looking for the 'gets you high, functionally and positively, then fades away', type of high. Without mongout, stoneover, afterhigh, munchie fest, indica type effects.

The Baglung certainly has some of these 'indica' effects, I chose the wrong male for the PS x UEL cross, but know what to look for now, have 3 packs of PS to hunt through and to make a repro for next season.

Same for the MG x PS/UEL, lovely strong bushy plants, half of them purple, Early to Mid Oct here, MG comes in mid to end Oct. But I can do selection better with all of those. Some of them are too much, unpleasant.
I was taking some photos of the dried flowers but they look crap with the light I have.

Thanks for the info On the hash effects @bonghopper. I see you have done a few seasons with the mountain gold and purple sat at 50north no less!!!

Had a bit of a chuckle about your “flight cycle home” very cool you can ride to your plots mate.

How were the effects of the other 3/4 purple Sat for you?
I do like the sound of the 1/4 PS being an effect like @H e d g e described, motivating, positive and day brightening.

Also how did you find mold resistance in the mountain gold compared to purple sat?

The other 3 were too much of an evening toke, affected clarity and ability too much compared to that other one. They had more of the cherry/berry/vinous, shorter fatter flowers and more purple. The one I liked had longer, less dense flowers, but still not 'airy', more green, and that effervescent, high note, spice 'chemical' type aromas that come from the Oaxaca. That 'spice' I find a good indicator for effect - feels hot like mustard or chili in the mouth when you nibble a bit of fresh flower.

A standout attribute of Purple Satellite is it's leaf Septoria resistance - the most I've seen yet, had healthy fans still on at the end of the season, I hadn't seen that in a while. It's much more so than MG.
They have about the same mould resistancy.

Looking forward to hearing how you get on with the new Oaxaca .

Effects varied a bit with the Thai but I like them all. One very clear focused motivating happy, strong lime smell, favourite so far. Another similar lime more trippy less happy but not at all dysphoric. Almost liberty cap.
Third floral pine harder to describe more complex smell, very bright happy contented feeling but not as sharp as the other two.
Keeping cuts of everything, not found anything I can easily part with yet.

Really looking forward to the Oaxaca too, it seems that's the side I Iike the most in Mountain Gold.
On the northern Mexican quest over here
Have been growing S1's of an early Mextiza, very few have been good though, missed out on a keeper two seasons ago.
That Thai sounds lovely, the lime and effects are very interesting, keep any pollen by any chance?

I would be very interested to hear from yourself and everyone else about tolerance build up from purple satellite, it seems to be the one part that’s missing from most strain reports and imo is a very important factor.

It's a good'un, always blew the tits off me no matter how tolerated I was. The sativa upbeat energetic sparkly giggly face only present with a little tolerance break however, those adrenals need a break to get that.

But I know I am a minority but I think as we go further some more if not many will get it's not about the pretty convenient package and more about the substance of what's in it. That is why I hang on to hope on all levels.

That's why we're with you dude, keep up the good work.

Peace

 

[H e d g e]

That Thai sounds lovely, the lime and effects are very interesting, keep any pollen by any chance?

Interesting you ask, I’m flowering the same three plants again now with an additional 3 new seedlings vegging for the next run. All three females from the last run are now 100% male, think maybe switching them from 18 to 11 hours has stressed them so starting again with new cuts of the same three and will gradually reduce the daylight hours as v man recommends for the ps.
From what I’ve read the lime pheno seems to be the most common so shouldn’t be difficult to find in a pack.

 

[vermontman]

Hey Vman, hope all is well, you gone south for winter?

Have you only grown that new Oaxacan 79 indoors? Still sounds good, is it less potent in a way that defines it's effects - gentler, more functional?
From your observations, is it as early as your line? I'm only interested in these outdoors.

Well, you'll certainly get your money back on that one at 90 for a 5 pack..

Potency alone is not descriptive enough for the sativa heads, there's a lot of folk looking for the 'gets you high, functionally and positively, then fades away', type of high. Without mongout, stoneover, afterhigh, munchie fest, indica type effects.

The Baglung certainly has some of these 'indica' effects, I chose the wrong male for the PS x UEL cross, but know what to look for now, have 3 packs of PS to hunt through and to make a repro for next season.

Same for the MG x PS/UEL, lovely strong bushy plants, half of them purple, Early to Mid Oct here, MG comes in mid to end Oct. But I can do selection better with all of those. Some of them are too much, unpleasant.
I was taking some photos of the dried flowers but they look crap with the light I have.



The other 3 were too much of an evening toke, affected clarity and ability too much compared to that other one. They had more of the cherry/berry/vinous, shorter fatter flowers and more purple. The one I liked had longer, less dense flowers, but still not 'airy', more green, and that effervescent, high note, spice 'chemical' type aromas that come from the Oaxaca. That 'spice' I find a good indicator for effect - feels hot like mustard or chili in the mouth when you nibble a bit of fresh flower.

A standout attribute of Purple Satellite is it's leaf Septoria resistance - the most I've seen yet, had healthy fans still on at the end of the season, I hadn't seen that in a while. It's much more so than MG.
They have about the same mould resistancy.


Really looking forward to the Oaxaca too, it seems that's the side I Iike the most in Mountain Gold.
On the northern Mexican quest over here
Have been growing S1's of an early Mextiza, very few have been good though, missed out on a keeper two seasons ago.
That Thai sounds lovely, the lime and effects are very interesting, keep any pollen by any chance?


It's a good'un, always blew the tits off me no matter how tolerated I was. The sativa upbeat energetic sparkly giggly face only present with a little tolerance break however, those adrenals need a break to get that.



That's why we're with you dude, keep up the good work.

Peace

Hello @bonghopper!
Yes I am in the south and running some of my work here but on a very tiny scale the new Oax was grown inside and out. Outside she finished by the end of Oct. Inside it seemed like ten weeks or a bit more. Having gone through a bit of health speed bumps I was just a bit lax on documentation but gave growing my all.
Oh and thank you for your kind words.
Hope that helps!

 

[Rgd]

Potency alone is not descriptive enough for the sativa heads,

well said

 

[bonghopper]

Hello @bonghopper!
Yes I am in the south and running some of my work here but on a very tiny scale the new Oax was grown inside and out. Outside she finished by the end of Oct. Inside it seemed like ten weeks or a bit more. Having gone through a bit of health speed bumps I was just a bit lax on documentation but gave growing my all.
Oh and thank you for your kind words.
Hope that helps!

Hope you're getting through that ok, hawthorn is amazing for the heart. Berry - tea or tinctures.

Would you say it's a little later than your Oax? Is that the same '79 as Kaiki's, as is used in Mextiza etc? Sorry if this has already been clarified.

 

[moose/MI]

Hope you're getting through that ok, hawthorn is amazing for the heart. Berry - tea or tinctures.

Would you say it's a little later than your Oax? Is that the same '79 as Kaiki's, as is used in Mextiza etc? Sorry if this has already been clarified.

He's been through 2 tornadoes and some fairly serious health issues and operating from 2 different states. 🫤

The Oaxacan got released right during all that and he hasn't had time to really even do a roll out or share the particulars yet.

 

[EnjoyingLife]

Hope you're getting through that ok, hawthorn is amazing for the heart. Berry - tea or tinctures.

Would you say it's a little later than your Oax? Is that the same '79 as Kaiki's, as is used in Mextiza etc? Sorry if this has already been clarified.

Do you have personal experience with hawthrone for the heart? Or anyone close to you? I ask because you mention its great for the heart and am wondering how you or the person who does use it. I see you mention berry for use in teas or tinctures but at what amounts, for how long etc?

 

[vermontman]

Hope you're getting through that ok, hawthorn is amazing for the heart. Berry - tea or tinctures.

Would you say it's a little later than your Oax? Is that the same '79 as Kaiki's, as is used in Mextiza etc? Sorry if this has already been clarified.

Doing really great here!
I cut one of my Pharma meds the blood thinner by half and I have spent the last month on1/2 evil Pharm, blood thinner and a Pomegranate supplement plus daily juice of whole Pom, tart cherry, black cherry juice and I eat two pieces of fruit each eve, organic apple and a pear. been riding my bike regularly and cranking up on the gardening, for more veg.

 

[FTL]

Doing really great here!
I cut one of my Pharma meds the blood thinner by half and I have spent the last month on1/2 evil Pharm, blood thinner and a Pomegranate supplement plus daily juice of whole Pom, tart cherry, black cherry juice and I eat two pieces of fruit each eve, organic apple and a pear. been riding my bike regularly and cranking up on the gardening, for more veg.

Good to hear @vermontman, keep it up mate