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Gorilla Glue 5.0

dank.frank

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It is only a cut, maybe someone hasen't and whant it.. grow it and have some fun whit it.

We are growers or not? So why you don't allow it to him?

Do you know that Nevada state medical law says if you can get a product from a dispensary then you have no legal grounds on which to grow it yourself???

THIS is the primary reason that GG#4 was NEVER supposed to be given to dispensaries...in doing so, you would by default make it illegal for the individual home grower to produce.

So, GG#5 was developed and held tight to once again allow for certain individuals to earn an honest living.

Your circular self-justifications are nothing more than you openly defining what a self-righteous POS you are...or you are just another one looking to support what you think is a loose end in being able to acquire this cut...because after all, why not - it's been clearly demonstrated the person boasting about having it has no moral repute. Might as well grease his balls in public with the hopes he answers your PM.

The f' everyone else as long as I get mine mentality..does not belong in the cannabis industry and there certainly isn't room for it on the ICmag forums.



dank.Frank
 

dank.frank

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Idk how to delete my post but I have edited them to best I can..I'm not with all the drama bs and all that as I dnt have time for it and am not going to bring negativity into my life on something I ha kno idea was such a sensitive matter!!!as no was under the impression that this cut was already out to ppl same as #4 as I'm not on the scene and dnt really stay up to date on alot,all's I kno is I was offered this cut in a trade and now I'm out my cut and apparently started alot of unnecessary bs I will destroy the cuts I have tomorrow when I get to the grow as to nip this out!! My apologies to jw as I never Ment to offend or disrespect you in any way!!! My apologies..daddysdank


I'll apologize publicly as well...because this honestly doesn't even involve me...not directly.

I was however, fortunate enough to be one of the first 5 people to have ever grown or smoked on the GG#4...my partner was the third person to have her.

He went from 30+ cuts to 11 after GG#4 landed. It changed everything...and keeping in mind we were growing TK, Chem 3, Skunk Va, Legend, etc...stuff that is HARD to come by...and still, GG#4 changed the entire op.

I honestly, to this day, feel...we as a community...as growers...OWE Joesy. I don't care if it was a herm accident or if it took him 20 years to make. The fact is he didn't have to share it...but he did.

The end result was some egomaniac trying to make a come up and losing perspective, who ultimately turned cup thief and snitch and nearly cost JW everything.

The very least we could do as growers, as decent human beings, is let the man have the #5...for f' sake.

This isn't rocket science.

The only reason I'm even taking the time to explain this shit that should be OBVIOUS to everyone, is I understand just how fast things have grown and how many new to this lifestyle types it has incorporated. Don't think for a second though that being a newb is the same as getting a free pass.

The only reason I'm willing to say any of these words is because I think of JW as family. I love the herb that he put out into the world. It is one of few cuts that has actually upped the ante. It really did set a new bar. Top shelf quality + 'mersh yield. That epic combo we all seek - JW passed it out for FREE. It's about respect.

I'll never forget how many stuck up elitist growers got pissed off by the average joe having access to TRUE top shelf marketable cannabis. Those same growers, rather than admit the GG#4 was all that and a bag of chips, decided instead to be bitter and deny it's reign as "just another bubba cut"...ROFL.

Please, by all means, show respect where it is deserved.

Maybe you didn't mean to get caught up in this storm...or maybe you did and thought it would play out differently. Either way, I hope my rants have convinced you to do the right thing.

"They" say there is no honor amongst thieves and half-wits try to apply that to anything that is "not legal"...well, I'll be the first to tell you, there IS honor amongst GROWERS. Don't degrade and diminish what you claim to be in the hopes of earning an extra buck or two. Just don't. It's a lonely enough hobby as it is.



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bucketswithsoil

support your local surfboard builder...
greenPather,better off to leave this to the big boys...let DF,say his peace,he has DEFINITELY EARNED IT....and it very respected round here... carry on boys...
 

shishkaboy

>>>>Beanie Man<<<<
If he would have never posted it that would have been ok? or better at least?

I dont know anything about the rules of this stuff, but something about that just doesnt sit right with me.
 

dank.frank

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No, it still doesn't make it right - it just doesn't rub someone's face in it. It's that whole insult to injury type of concept I was addressing.



dank.Frank
 

Grizz

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some of you people kill me with your thinking, I accidently created something good and shared it with the world and now that I am trying to create a brand and make a honest dollor I get flack , hell Tommy Chong, Snoop Dogg, Willy Nelson all are doing it and dident create a fucking thing, whats up with you guys ? am I supposed to give you everything so you can have it for free ? I think I have earned every cent I can make off ggstrains
if this guy has gg5 it means someone I trusted went behind my back and gave it to him. now if someone did this I would think they would have told him to not tell anyone he got it to protect himself,
not saying it couldent happen but really think about it,
 
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blue_tick

joesy

you deserve every penny and then some from what i have seen come from you. i have not had the chance to sample any thing and damn sure don't want to in this manner. if some one is gifted and knows to be held tight then that is the responsibility of them or turn it down. what has happen to loyalty

just my 2 cents

peace
 

smokefx

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some of you people kill me with your thinking, I accidently created something good and shared it with the world and now that I am trying to create a brand and make a honest dollor I get flack , hell Tommy Chong, Snoop Dogg, Willy Nelson all are doing it and dident create a fucking thing, whats up with you guys ? am I supposed to give you everything so you can have it for free ? I think I have earned every cent I can make off ggstrains
if this guy has gg5 it means someone I trusted went behind my back and gave it to him. now if someone did this I would think they would have told him to not tell anyone he got it to protect himself,
not saying it couldent happen but really think about it,

Haters gonna hate. Keep up the good work josey.
 
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cooterbrown420

Joesy you are the man and deserve to be paid for your work accidental or not. It sad how people always have their hands out looking for freebies. I was lucky to receive the GG#4 cut for free, I tried to pay the guy but he would not take a dime for it. I will continue to support GG strains for the contribution to our community, in fact already purchased a sweatshirt from RJ at the cup.
 

miscbrah3284

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and this is why strains should be, and are hoarded....at least the good ones

been smoking a lot of glue though recently
 

RB26

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Right. Kind of my thoughts as well.

I mean...a simple process of elimination will make it obvious - eventually.

For this exact reason, I refuse to put "restrictions" on any cut. My mentors never did and I try to follow in their footsteps. F.U.C.K.E.M.

But seriously, if I was in the position JW was...when reflecting upon how the GG#4 legacy played out, I'd be putting a trademark on everything too. Handing out gold mines to people - asking nothing in return but decency - and then to find my freedom compromised.

Yeah, I'd be singing the f' everyone tune too after that scenario.

If you weren't gifted the GG#5 by the man himself - if you are a decent human being and not a cancer upon society...then you should BURN THAT CUT.

I learned back in 2011 with that fresh off the boat Forum Cookies cut - if you aren't supposed to have it and you end up with it - you get broad mites. ROFLMAO. :laughing:

I didn't negotiate or anything else, I just ended up with it. At the same time though...I ended up with a plague that wiped out my entire mother collection and every male I had held for years. I lost more than I care to even remember.

There is a time and place for everything. If you try to rush that, I'll be the first to tell you, whether you think you deserve it or not, you got it coming...:moon:

Any ICmagger of integrity would burn that cut. Not because they are superstitious...but because they value and respect the industry enough to know where the boundaries are.

After ALL that JW did for this community...the GG#4 thread has views into the MILLIONS...literally. He never asked anything of those that were handed a clone that literally changed the game for thousands of people...and nothing was asked of them other than to be good human beings...

Having GG#5 when you aren't supposed to...and then bragging about it on the internet under the quasi bull sh*t statement of "I mean no offense" ....

Where I come from - that'd get you stomped into a puddle. If you didn't know what respect was - you'd certainly have a better idea of it when you woke up.

I really hate to make something of what may be nothing, but it seems like everyone else is taking the soft approach on this matter...which means if I have to be the ass hole, well, it wouldn't be the first time.

DaddysDank - I don't know you at all really - but do the right thing. Trash that cut. Either way, you've established who and what you are under your tag. You better hope GG#5 is your GRAIL and all you ever want to smoke - otherwise, you better have lots of room to sort seed. NO ONE who respects JW, will give you piss after this. (and in our world, sometimes a good clean piss makes all the difference... :biggrin:)

I really shouldn't have to beg someone to have decency and to show respect to an amazing member of this community who has already done so much...but really, this whole scenario rubs me the wrong way. I've really tried to let it go and not stick my nose where it doesn't belong. I have character flaws that I try to work on...and what I think doesn't always matter and sometimes it's better just to keep my mouth shut...

But honestly, I'm baffled that no one else is speaking out on this matter...and all that leads me to think is DD's PM box must be blowing up.

IF THAT IS THE CASE...then this community IS dead. It is a farce. There is very little I believe in - the mission of this site is one of them - the GOODNESS of people here, united by a common goal, is something I still believe in.

DaddysDank:

Your post - it breaks something in me I didn't think could even be chipped. Really, sincerely, truly...from the bottom of my heart - you are in the wrong. If JW didn't give you that cut, you have no business having it.

There is nothing in this world worth sacrificing your integrity over. I know. I'm old enough to reflect upon some of my own decisions and am able to make such a statement with some remorse and with some heavy regrets.

You don't want to take one more step down the path you are heading...you'll live long enough to regret it. You won't like what you see in the mirror...and no imaginary green dots are worth it.



dank.Frank

Well put :tiphat:


some of you people kill me with your thinking, I accidently created something good and shared it with the world and now that I am trying to create a brand and make a honest dollor I get flack, hell Tommy Chong, Snoop Dogg, Willy Nelson all are doing it and dident create a fucking thing, whats up with you guys ? am I supposed to give you everything so you can have it for free ? I think I have earned every cent I can make off ggstrains if this guy has gg5 it means someone I trusted went behind my back and gave it to him. now if someone did this I would think they would have told him to not tell anyone he got it to protect himself, not saying it couldent happen but really think about it.

People are greedy bastards - you gave out the GG4 and now people expect things from you. Unfortunate, but true. Those people are ungrateful and will never be satisfied.
 

shishkaboy

>>>>Beanie Man<<<<
As an observer trying to learn your customs it's very confusing. It really seems like the rules keep changing around.

Is there an ethical reference point we can go back to when not sure, or do we just gotta do what we feel is right?
 

mojave green

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Hey joesy, how's your health?
Lotta drama with the gg strains?
Forget it and do your thing.
Branding is coming No doubt about it. A guy ought to be able to create something, brand it, and make money off it!
Regarding clone etiquette? No idea. I have both sold and gave away clones. I have never brought an outsider's clone into my garden. Too much risk.

Hope you make lotsa money Joesy. Probably got some shitty medical bills to pay. Good luck old man!
When is ggstrains going to start making some beans?
 
some of you people kill me with your thinking, I accidently created something good and shared it with the world and now that I am trying to create a brand and make a honest dollor I get flack , hell Tommy Chong, Snoop Dogg, Willy Nelson all are doing it and dident create a fucking thing, whats up with you guys ? am I supposed to give you everything so you can have it for free ? I think I have earned every cent I can make off ggstrains
if this guy has gg5 it means someone I trusted went behind my back and gave it to him. now if someone did this I would think they would have told him to not tell anyone he got it to protect himself,
not saying it couldent happen but really think about it,

if you wanna make ah gg brand, make it by yourself and don't trust in any person. where are dollares there is evil bro.
 

GoneP

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some of you people kill me with your thinking, I accidently created something good and shared it with the world and now that I am trying to create a brand and make a honest dollor I get flack , hell Tommy Chong, Snoop Dogg, Willy Nelson all are doing it and dident create a fucking thing, whats up with you guys ? am I supposed to give you everything so you can have it for free ? I think I have earned every cent I can make off ggstrains
if this guy has gg5 it means someone I trusted went behind my back and gave it to him. now if someone did this I would think they would have told him to not tell anyone he got it to protect himself,
not saying it couldent happen but really think about it,

thank you for releasing the GG4. respect and love.
 

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