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Gorilla Glue #4
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StankyBeamer
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I envy you guys. The michigan glue market is fucked. Everybody has it, shops literally don't even want to look at glue overages. Still my favorite, and I'll grow a good majority of glue, regardless of what the local market preferences are.
Ganjaganjakush
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Ya lansing Is bad now every shop has tons of it wasn't this bad few months ago I'm gunna grow some og's and ogkb 2.0, most of the gg4 I've seen is terribly grown as well so its sad
StankyBeamer
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Yeah pure options glue tested below 20% and they want $20 a g. I know the guy that grows it, throws out half his crop to bud rot every run
Also sprays avid on buds, and uses foggers during flower. Not to mention uses eagle 20 mid flower
Also sprays avid on buds, and uses foggers during flower. Not to mention uses eagle 20 mid flower
CoCoSativas
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People pay money for marijuana treated like that what the fuck!?! I sell my primo for 25 bucks a eighth, 200 a Oz strait up...
Grooooooosssssssss that makes me shudder why can't people buy a dehumidifier and normal shit instead of dirty chemicals ugh I want to barf... Idk what avid is but I know about eagle 20. That's fucked It shocks me antlyone would apply that to dope plants I don't even foliar feed let alone would I consider spraying them I'd throw them away first...
StankyBeamer
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There's a huge difference between using eagle 20 and using it on buds. Myclobutanil is rated for edible crops. It has a long soil halflife, but is only downward mobile with a short halflife in plant tissue. Naphthalene is the reason eagle 20 gets a "ornamental only" label, and naphthalene has a 6hr halflife. I dip clones in eagle 20 as a precaution when taking in outside cuts, but I will no longer use it in veg. Avid is a nerve gas derived miticide. Again, fine for use on clones that will be mothers, but not to be sprayed on budding plants. Michigan doesn't require residual testing. Really should get on that though, it's a matter of public health
As far as all the "myclobutanil is a proven carcinogen" arguments, look up the msds. Not even suspected as a carcinogen. It is, however, proven to be an endocrine disruptor.
shishkaboy
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Day 48
Gonna start the plain water next time it needs it.
I sooo wanna snip a little piece off, but there's not much longer now.
Gonna start the plain water next time it needs it.
I sooo wanna snip a little piece off, but there's not much longer now.
CoCoSativas
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Glad I get all my cuts from seeds I pop... no bug threat usually unless say my dumb ass brings in a mint... oops
Fuck I'm glad I'm not buying dope off other people anymore it's scary to know any of that wack shit comes anywhere near plants. I get why you do it with bug risk for moms makes sense but that's a big reason I pop seed and don't fuck with cuts.
All the PhDs in the world could tell me I could spray this ot that on my plants but to be honest I don't like the idea. I just put water in my pots that's it, nothing g ever touches my plants if possible including me I try handle them as little as possible.
I guess it's all a matter of perspective. I don't like the idea of chems on plants but who am I to judge... we all have our own quirks. I don't wear gloves when I handle my plants. I feel disconnected and that bothers me. I'm lucky the types of stuff I grow the nodes are long so when I harvest it's no problem. I make sure my hands are very clean, I hate gloves lol. Sometimes people give me a hard time for it but I don't care fuck was everyone wearing latex gloves 30 years ago? It's not going to kill me. Worst that might happen I get a sticky fingertip
StankyBeamer
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Yeah I don't wear gloves unless I'm using chems on clones. People have been getting their finger oils on flowers for thousands of years and it's never been a contamination issue. I think the gloves are more to avoid annoying sticky fingers. The other night my hands got so sticky from de-fanning all the glues in my flower room that I literally could not touch twine to tie up tops.
Another side note, unrelated to glue: pm is not systemic. It's misinformation started the same way the whole "myclobutanil is carcinogenic" myth began. Someone read it on a forum and started spreading it as fact. Check out ucdavis research on pm. It's a surface infection. Some strains exhibit endocytic growth, which just means they root into leaf tissue, but it's not mobile within the plant. Mycelium Deffinitely does not overtake tissue without being visible, I used to grow edible fungus. Treat clones with a good systemic fungicide, then keep your vpd on point, you'll never see pm again unless you're growing weak susceptible cultivars. Environment 100%
Another side note, unrelated to glue: pm is not systemic. It's misinformation started the same way the whole "myclobutanil is carcinogenic" myth began. Someone read it on a forum and started spreading it as fact. Check out ucdavis research on pm. It's a surface infection. Some strains exhibit endocytic growth, which just means they root into leaf tissue, but it's not mobile within the plant. Mycelium Deffinitely does not overtake tissue without being visible, I used to grow edible fungus. Treat clones with a good systemic fungicide, then keep your vpd on point, you'll never see pm again unless you're growing weak susceptible cultivars. Environment 100%
Most if not all of what we eat and drink have toxic substances in them.The Nutrients we all use have them. Even a 100% purest Organic garden has huge amounts of heavy metals. If you know a grower that has everyone's best interest at heart you don't need to worry. Not all growers are like the 1 posted above.
StankyBeamer
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You referring to my flowers or the flowers I was talking about that get blasted with chems in flower by the commercial grower flooding lansing with glue? Cuz I have respiratory issues, and sick patients, I Deffinitely do the research on what I put on my plants and when.
I'm not referring to anyone's flowers. You did make a post about someone([FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]pure options)[/FONT] using Avid and Eagle in mid flower that's irresponsible whom ever that is
StankyBeamer
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Ok, I was gonna say, wasn't the whole point of my post how nasty it is to use all that shit on plants in flower. Deffinitely gotta know a grower that smokes their own meds and gives a shit enough to look into what they're using.
And you're 100% correct about nutrients being toxic. Edta, the most widely used chelating agent is a petroleum derivative. Nasty stuff, that's, unfortunately, in almost every bottle you can buy from the hydro stores. Other chelating agents are too expensive for nute companies to justify using them.
What was the copper hydroxide product you were trying out for clone dips? I wanna look into that. I hate not having multiple options to rotate, feel like I'm creating super-spores
Shit EDTA is in Mountain Dew. Shows how much the FDA cares about you. Do your own research.
StankyBeamer
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Google imidacloprid residuals in commercial lettuce crops. Fuckin disgusting what the fda allows. They spray that shit on all tobacco products too. Count how many honey bees you see next summer. The number will shock you.
I am sure mine would fail. Wow I have some gas today.
StankyBeamer
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And for mold. Like half the entries had avid and eagle 20, so they must have been spraying that shit in august/september. Eww. I mean, in an outdoor bud competition, fuck it, you're gonna have mites. Why have residual nerve gas as well.
morgandecaptain
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Yea,there are lots of people around me growing Glue but the vast majority is so poorly grown or not real Glue,maybe S1's. Most of it's so bad it doesn't even look or smell like Glue and I wouldn't smoke it if someone gave it to me. On a sad note a friend got his pole barn ripped,8 GG#4 and 8 Chaos gone and they were big plants.
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