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milkyjoe

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So maybe a little off topic but mentioned in this thread. It was mentioned that light spectrum and temp might affect terpenes late in flower.

That made me go hmmm...I dry at 70 F to avoid volatalizing oils. But what if I already did with a hotter grow room?

Anybody else wonder these things? What if I lowered temps to 70 for the last couple weeks?

I may have to find out now that it is stuck in me skull
 

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I apologize it's all flashed out my phone is not the best for flash I've learned. Great for natural light pic though. Gotta smoke up during the day I guess lol

The 5 is done this weekend and the ao X 4 has a couple weeks left.
They both got pregnant by some million dollar baby pollen. Perhaps I should give the seeds to marr with his luck we got more cup winners. I'd just kill them before they break surface haha
 

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I apologize it's all flashed out my phone is not the best for flash I've learned. Great for natural light pic though. Gotta smoke up during the day I guess lol

The 5 is done this weekend and the ao X 4 has a couple weeks left.
They both got pregnant by some million dollar baby pollen. Perhaps I should give the seeds to marr with his luck we got more cup winners. I'd just kill them before they break surface haha


^ Man I just transplanted like 10 seedlings and ended up with 6, let um get too big and was kinda rushing while i was puttin them in in the dirt and busted 4 of um. On the plus side, they make for good sprouts, way better than clover or broccoli sprouts.

Also i dont know if its just me but I cant see any pictures...
 

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So maybe a little off topic but mentioned in this thread. It was mentioned that light spectrum and temp might affect terpenes late in flower.

That made me go hmmm...I dry at 70 F to avoid volatalizing oils. But what if I already did with a hotter grow room?

Anybody else wonder these things? What if I lowered temps to 70 for the last couple weeks?

I may have to find out now that it is stuck in me skull

agree100%, i think you have the right idea there.
i always try to keep my temps low (70 sounds nice!) in the last week or 2 leading up to harvest, i've also started dropping hours of light and perhaps even number of lights burning in the last week (less lights on make it easier to lower temps)

on an ON TOPIC note:
i just flipped one glue in my tent room ("round infinity" thread), also have a few glues in veg to get clones from for a proper glue run.
also got my "glue breath" (ogkb 2.0 x glue) going, stoked to try this out as well as the ogkb2.0.
 

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70 seems cold to me. Cannabis doesn't like cold. I can noticed decreased growth with cold temps. I guess if the plants are already done you could see what it does.
 

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My guess would be that as long as the trichom is an attached living part of the plant it's various components are not in a desiccated form and are being supplied things it needs to stay supple and protected in the gland like water and more terrines are prolly developing daily too. I bet the dried trichom doesn't protect the plant chemicals and volatile oils like a living one.
 

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I apologize it's all flashed out my phone is not the best for flash I've learned. Great for natural light pic though. Gotta smoke up during the day I guess lol

The 5 is done this weekend and the ao X 4 has a couple weeks left.
They both got pregnant by some million dollar baby pollen. Perhaps I should give the seeds to marr with his luck we got more cup winners. I'd just kill them before they break surface haha

I will get those beans from you for marr, he raided my seed vault again yesterday,
 

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70 seems cold to me. Cannabis doesn't like cold. I can noticed decreased growth with cold temps. I guess if the plants are already done you could see what it does.

Ive noticed that the higher temps are better for veg not flower. Not running co2, which is probably why, but at 72 lights on 62 lights off was the best yield and quality I've seen yet as opposed to the 80/70 temp range I had this summer
 
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Ive noticed that the higher temps are better for veg not flower. Not running co2, which is probably why, but at 72 lights on 62 lights off was the best yield and quality I've seen yet as opposed to the 80/70 temp range I had this summer

It may have had something to do with now far your lights are from the plants. I've found anything under 75-76 is usually no bueno. Without co2 I like 77 degrees personally but in shoot for 76-79. I've been in dozens of gardens and this is def the sweet spot.
 
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So maybe a little off topic but mentioned in this thread. It was mentioned that light spectrum and temp might affect terpenes late in flower.

That made me go hmmm...I dry at 70 F to avoid volatalizing oils. But what if I already did with a hotter grow room?

Anybody else wonder these things? What if I lowered temps to 70 for the last couple weeks?

I may have to find out now that it is stuck in me skull

I don't think this would be a good idea at all. Healthy plants =stinky and sticky plants. The growth will slow dramatically at 70degrees and the plants won't dig it at all. Dimming the bulbs will lower the temp a tad if you don't have climate controllers, but def try to keep it above 75day/68night. I like nights at 70-73 before the final weeks then drop to 70 then 68 last 5 days only.

We're not really talking about high enough temps to cook too many terps, but the light intensity will do it for sure. I do believe the terps are more volatile once the plant has been picked, and 65-70 is great for drying. Good luck
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My guess would be that as long as the trichom is an attached living part of the plant it's various components are not in a desiccated form and are being supplied things it needs to stay supple and protected in the gland like water and more terrines are prolly developing daily too. I bet the dried trichom doesn't protect the plant chemicals and volatile oils like a living one.

I agree with this for sure. Once dead, the plants can't protect themselves from heat, light, mold, etc. I think plants that are growing, but fully ripe/overripe, start to suffer from this as well to a limited degree. Keep em happy and healthy is the ticket:)
 

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Ive noticed that the higher temps are better for veg not flower. Not running co2, which is probably why, but at 72 lights on 62 lights off was the best yield and quality I've seen yet as opposed to the 80/70 temp range I had this summer




I keep my temp range 75-82f with no issues. Lights off temps in flower are always 69f. Cannabis always does better in higher temps then it does in cold IME anyway...Switching up the temps ,changing light times just don't see the added benefit. if there where any it would need to be noticeably consistent. I don't see that. Just like some leave there plants in total darkens for a week before harvest?..
 
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I keep my temp range 75-82f with no issues. Lights off temps in flower are always 69f. Cannabis always does better in higher temps then it does in cold IME anyway...Switching up the temps ,changing light times just don't see the added benefit. if there where any it would need to be noticeably consistent. I don't see that. Just like some leave there plants in total darkens for a week before harvest?..
Dropping the temps just a few degrees at the end and 10 hour cycle is the only thing that I've seen work in my favor consistently. I've set up lots of gardens, and when people are growing the same strains in different houses and both come out 'perfect', but one has a slight edge, its easy to see who left the lights on 12/12. I tried the 3 days in the dark that BOG used to push on overgrow.com and wasn't pleased with results. I've ran tester plants 7 days of darkness pre harvest, also with adverse effects. Most experiments don't work out, like making wheels into squares instead of circles.

I don't think doing anything different than the usual is needed at all. There is a negligible difference at best. We're talking a 9/10 strain will maybe be a 9.2/10. Its easy to tell if it's a very familiar strain that's been grown numerous times in various environments. If it's a new strain, good luck noticing anything spectacular. We're talking only a pinch of salt in the stew, not potatoes and extra beef. I don't get any more money for my buds than anyone else. I can see why most wouldn't bother with changing anything if they already have a good thing going.
 

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Too much variables to be consistent from garden to garden. I have tried all that. Never seen any benefits. We all do things a bit diferant . What ever works for you
 

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i just flipped one glue in my tent room ("round infinity" thread), also have a few glues in veg to get clones from for a proper glue run.
also got my "glue breath" (ogkb 2.0 x glue) going, stoked to try this out as well as the ogkb2.0.

glad you scored some of my clones.:tiphat:

GlueBreath is actually (GG#4 x OGKB S1 #3 "The Three")

good luck with them and please post some pics in my thread.
 
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Too much variables to be consistent from garden to garden. I have tried all that. Never seen any benefits. We all do things a bit diferant . What ever works for you

When I set up climate controlled gardens, same fert regime, and perfect buds come out time after time, it's easy to pinpoint variables over extended periods of time. Try it for a year and then compare to last year. Then when several friends and acquaintances/business associates also do it, and you compare results over and over again, then you'll have a better idea of what to expect. I've set up a lot of gardens and been in way more. Whatever benefits you've seen in your garden is anecdotal at best, but once you've done several experiments in several gardens, now you are touching on the basic foundation of science. Mimicking nature usually won't let you down. Like serrated steak knives.. A few lights is great to play with, but when your setting up people with 20 lights, or 50 lights, especially in different rooms, you can really learn about minute differences at a much quicker rate. We know you are a master grower PF, don't change a thing. For people that want to experiment, keep it light, don't get too far out of control and you'll finish happy crops every time:) good luck
 

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Most don't setup exact same rooms. there are many differences that I see all the time. type of bulbs used. same size room, same type of hoods, same type of reflective walls.. Most just use the same Nutrients and hydo setup. Nothing else is t he same. If someone wants the exact same setup its means exact same down to the flooring used.
 
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