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pappy masonjar

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I think those pics should answer c8's question. Weaving isn't necessary if the gg4 is vegged long enough in the scrog. At least in K's case. :biglaugh:

Nicely done by the way. Sweet Jesus. :respect:
i love this site. so many top notch growers it unreal. :biggrin:
 
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,i think a double screen will end up working better...
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Thats what i'm doing with the 6 in flower now .... not cuz of tieing them down , but because i let them go untopped & the 6 mains will need some support later .... either that or i'll stake just the mains . i wanted the side branches to come through the first net ... so i kept it lower .
 
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Very true Krusty does a fine job;)(lol I said Krusty) it takes awhile to get a plant vegged up to fill in one of those smarties. Im using 20g it takes min 60 days to fill it in. I noticed the 5g had bigger plants then the 20g does and that because the Roots filled in the 5g much more then the 20 did. The larger the pot the longer the veg. Im doing 2 20's one will have GG the other will have a Burkle. Both of these are 30 days veg now still have a long way to go.
 
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I wasn't aware they were already 2 weeks in. I didn't look closely enough. Sorry bout that! Krust you are killing it btw. Joesy, i guess a canopy can get too crowded. I haven't seen this problem happen yet to me personally, i just constantly keep trying to cram as many tops into each sq foot i can. If the weaving is done starting on day one all those lateral branches obviously become tops and you end up with a lot more of them. I would think even if almost every inch was a top, and you did enough lower removal you could have insane yields. I do understand though that too much crowding = bad oscillating air penetration and could cause mold/mildew issues and bad light penetration also. I just haven't encountered that problem yet. My cheese stretches about the same as the gg4 and it also has serious side branching. I was worried about weaving it. I already had gotten 1.75 lbs per light with it no weaving whatsoever. I weaved it in my past two runs and i hit over 2 per light for the first time with it. Either way, everyone on here has taken something amazing and shown us what she can do. I think everyone on here fortunate enough to have her has done right by her for sure. Maybe one day well see a weaved scrog from day one. If i get her we sure will!
 
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I agree with what you're saying crooked, although I think one must first know the strain and stretch so as to know when to "let it go"

I think weaving until the end of stretch can be detrimental. Need to let it grow vertically for those last few days/week of stretch.

Weaving a scrog is definitely an art.
 
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Krust, i see you're doing well. I also see you're training your plants nicely and that your scrog is pretty full. However, in those shots from underneath, i still see netting with space that could have potential tops there. When you flip, do you place your net above the tops anticipating stretch? If so, on day one, if you even care about my suggestion, you could have your nets height just below the tops(about 4-6 inches). Weave everything down. Then every other day for two weeks you weave and fill in every single string of every square with a top that came up. After two weeks, you cut out any lowers you already would have. Leave them alone after this until their stretch is completely over. Throw a second screen for all the tops and i bet you'll be impressed with the results. Instead of 38 zips from 2k you'll get more like 68. Thats what i think could happen anyway. It would have to be done from the start though. Either way, you're crushing it and you're doing it with style. Very impressive grow.
 
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I agree with what you're saying crooked, although I think one must first know the strain and stretch so as to know when to "let it go"

I think weaving until the end of stretch can be detrimental. Need to let it grow vertically for those last few days/week of stretch.

Weaving a scrog is definitely an art.
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Thats why i was suggesting only doing it the first two weeks. Ive tried weaving for two weeks and three weeks. Two DEF is better and allows all the tops to come up. Just need that second screen. If you weave for three weeks you usually don't need an extra screen.
 
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Crooked8 said:
Krust, i see you're doing well. I also see you're training your plants nicely and that your scrog is pretty full. However, in those shots from underneath, i still see netting with space that could have potential tops there. When you flip, do you place your net above the tops anticipating stretch? If so, on day one, if you even care about my suggestion, you could have your nets height just below the tops(about 4-6 inches). Weave everything down. Then every other day for two weeks you weave and fill in every single string of every square with a top that came up. After two weeks, you cut out any lowers you already would have. Leave them alone after this until their stretch is completely over. Throw a second screen for all the tops and i bet you'll be impressed with the results. Instead of 38 zips from 2k you'll get more like 68. Thats what i think could happen anyway. It would have to be done from the start though. Either way, you're crushing it and you're doing it with style. Very impressive grow.
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Thanks man, I'll have to show you some pics of the plants recently "weaved". Sometime going into flower the plants are 3+ feet taller then the trellis. And with strains like Glass Slipper that are very viney they do great, bend all the way down and fill to every corner of the trellis. I'll take some shots tomorrow for ya.

That 38 zips was from 1 plant. More of a for fun sort of thing. One plant in soil. I've been thinking about putting another trellis a foot above the first one so that none of the buds flop over, but it's a logistical nightmare.
 
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I was given a cut of GG#4 tonite, I was told by the gifter it's the only strain he's grown that puts out as much frost as the Grape Stomper cut I gifted him, after going thru some of this thread I see what he means, great find Unc ...guess I'm in that every expanding circle now eh?!
 
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krustallos said:
Thanks man, I'll have to show you some pics of the plants recently "weaved". Sometime going into flower the plants are 3+ feet taller then the trellis. And with strains like Glass Slipper that are very viney they do great, bend all the way down and fill to every corner of the trellis. I'll take some shots tomorrow for ya.

That 38 zips was from 1 plant. More of a for fun sort of thing. One plant in soil. I've been thinking about putting another trellis a foot above the first one so that none of the buds flop over, but it's a logistical nightmare.
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Still not a bad yield from a sick strain. Incredible training skills bro. Id love to see your weaved shots. Two screens can be a pain but its worth it. Way better penetration when theres no flopping.
 
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I think GG4 is going to be "next" so to speak. I think joesy killed it. Like whoever created cookies and whoever created sour diesel. GG4 is next. Not one person who has sampled her or grown her has said "meh, not for me", instead people are saying things like "i gotta fill all the lights with this". So sick and inspiring.
 
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