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Gorilla Glue #4 - Part II

Dog Star

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I use Horstail tea for any funghal disease and solved any problem that i ever haved
with this simple gardener helper.

3 days in a row for protection and it adds some natural silicates to plant,
Biodynamics have some good tricks if we talk about growing plants.
 

nameless

bowlbreath
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horsetail? im curious...

hey vp..really brought the colors out despite your short ac failure. really well done man. when i get my pilots license back i think a glue off might be in order!!
 

Dog Star

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Yes Nameless,

you cook a tea with Equisetum arvense,30-50 grams of dry or 150 grams of fresh
Horstail you put in 1.5 liter of cold water,live this 24 hours to soak before
cooking,then cook for atleast 20 minutes to simmering and then live tea
to get cooloed,after that mix it 1:1 with cold water and then spray
your plants with this mixture 3 days in a row.

Keep your tea in refrigerator after you make him to tea dont go fermented if
outdoor temps are higher.

With this tea you will protect your plants so strong that any funghal disese
simply dont have a chances to develop as you exchange PH of a leaf
surface or stem surface as you spray hole plant from tops to bottom.

Another thing is interesting as you can protect your plants against spidermite
attacks as this fine layer of silicates dont aloud them to suck juices from leafes..

and additional nutes in form of natural silicates are more avaible to plant,she
grows stronger and sturdier.

Horstail have also possibility to rejuvenate parts that are affected by funghal
diseases,very strong weapon against funghi of any kind...,Horstail comes
between first plants that existed on planet Earth,she procreate
simmilar like a funghi,with spores... and thats why she is so strong against funghi.. ;)

Biodynamic knowledge,for me its advanced agriculture techniques.

Hope this helps you Nameless,you can google on organic forums,they know
for this plant and shes amazing action.


All the best
 

DoubleTripleOG

Chemdog & Kush Lover Extraordinaire
ICMag Donor
I stopped getting pm when I started filtering my intake air. Wal-mart and the like sell green furnace filters that catch mold spores along with a host of other stuff. Here's what I use for my intake's. Cut pieces to fit inside 6" ductwork. If you wanna go H.A.M. with it, cut a piece larger than the hole and duct tape it over the hole , putting tape around the outside of the hole and the filter.

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B4URTIME

Member
I run sealed rooms with co2 enrichment and proper climate controls with proper air flow, pm has been non existing in my grows. No air exchanges in my rooms, no intake, no exhaust and I never have any mold or pm issues.
 

Hammerhead

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Sealed rooms dont have the same issues. It can grow in a sealed room if its brought in.


Plants dont like being sprayed with stuff other then h2o. There is no setting on a burner ,its on or off at least mine is. You cant spray your plants with anything that has an oil in it like Neem oil. Burner is a stand only treatment do not use anything else with it. If the lights come on soon after the treatment your Plants will burn.

Long burns should only be needed when the room is first treated. I would not burn 6hrs with plans in the room. When I do mine I do it when the lights are off at 9am. Gives the plants and room to vent all day before the lights comer on again. Never had a full out break but some plants would have some PM on them. No matter how clean the room was some spores got in.

Any intake air has to be filtered before it gets into the room. I put a 10" Phresh Intake Filter on mine.. Once the plants have pm you can only keep knocking it down so u dont infect other plants. Once All plants are free of spores PM will not grow again with a min 60 day 1 hr burn. U can do 90 day 1 hr burns just depends on time of year and if you have lots of PM in your area. I would def recommend trying it. No spray comes close to getting rid of it.


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Dog Star

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Proper air flow stops shrooms from developing,lower humidity is also favorable
to not get mold or funghal diseases.

As i get by Joesy answer those burners are dangerous,Horstail tea on another
hand is totaly benevolent liquid that can be sprayed even at late flowering
directly on buds and plants and whithouth fear that buds will develop mold,
also if you have PM in late flowering Horstail tea will clean it.

Horstail tea is stronger than burner in effects,but in a gently way... causing no harm
for people or plant while have really strong anti-funghal action.
 

Hammerhead

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IMO Burners are not dangerous. I would NOT recommend them if they where. All the info is out there. Its up to ea of us to decide what to use. HS TEA is not a cure it just knocks it down. In no way is HS TEA stronger that's just inaccurate info. FYI, Plants use of sulfur is essential for nitrogen-fixing nodules on legumes, and necessary in the formation of chlorophyll. Plants use sulfur in the processes of producing proteins, amino acids, enzymes and vitamins. Sulfur also helps the plants resistance to disease, aids in growth, and in seed formation. Surfur is not a harm to plants when used properly.


hydrogen sulfide=Rotten Eggs aroma or raw sewage.

sulfur dioxide= Sulfur Burner (matches aroma).
 
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B4URTIME

Member
I wasn't saying it can't happen if spores are introduced to the space and conditions are present that favor the growth and germination of spores then they will germ and grow.

Why use sulfur burners and spray any chemicals to combat problems that can be avoided by simple design changes. To each their own but the less work for me the better, I already have enough work on my hands keeping everything rolling and moving. I don't wanna combat pm and other issues on top of the already rather heavy workload.

Replacing intake and exhaust filters, combating pm and stuff just seems like to much work when it can be avoided. My point is if your having issues with pm you need to make some environmental/growroom design changes. Rather then learn how to combat pm you shouldn't be dealing with to begin with.
 

Dog Star

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When you mention Sulfur a Horstail is a full of it.. Sulfur actually also acts
sinergisticaly together with Silica in exchanging a PH surface of a sprayed
leaf,bud,stem.

Was think its dangerous those burners if they can destroy final crop by burning
and then buds have bad smell..

You folks need to try Horstail tea for this anti-funghal issues and you will
never go back as its safe and it works a miracles on plants,simple organic advice
and very cheap cause you can collect Horstail.

She grows North America,Europe,Asia.. cheap remedy that will give you secure
harvests.
 

Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
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Environment is not the cure, it helps a lot. Many thongs can bring in unwanted problems even in the best conditions. Murphy's law. I have seen spotless huge gardens with some plants with PM. Some areas just don't have PM issues. If you go outside and vist your garden you r bringing in unwanted spores of all kinds. Putting on coveralls for shoes and body is a must if your that concerned about this. Adding a Automated Burner is the easiest way to add to any preventative measure.



I have lots horse tail. I dont use it anymore. For me burning was easier to do, plants responded much better then spraying HTT or any other spray. Depending on how bad your outbreak is you could be spraying often. If I had got better results I would still be using HTT.

Obviously a burner works better then anything I have tried. If you have PM after using HTT its not working lol. HTT contains many things that are beneficial for people. The sulfur it contains would requires weekly spraying or more to have the same effect as a burner. Apples and oranges.

If any burn in late flower its there own fault u cant blame the method. IF any have issues using a burner I can guarantee we could get it working properly..

Most issues we have in our gardens are our own mistakes.
 

Grizz

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Environment is not the cure, it helps a lot. Many thongs can bring in unwanted problems even in the best conditions. Murphy's law. I have seen spotless huge gardens with some plants with PM. Some areas just don't have PM issues. If you go outside and vist your garden you r bringing in unwanted spores of all kinds. Putting on coveralls for shoes and body is a must if your that concerned about this. Adding a Automated Burner is the easiest way to add to any preventative measure.



I have lots horse tail. I dont use it anymore. For me burning was easier to do, plants responded much better then spraying HTT or any other spray. Depending on how bad your outbreak is you could be spraying often. If I had got better results I would still be using HTT.

Obviously a burner works better then anything I have tried. If you have PM after using HTT its not working lol. HTT contains many things that are beneficial for people. The sulfur it contains would requires weekly spraying or more to have the same effect as a burner. Apples and oranges.

If any burn in late flower its there own fault u cant blame the method. IF any have issues using a burner I can guarantee we could get it working properly..

Most issues we have in our gardens are our own mistakes.

you know it aint my fault Hammer, its Unc's fault :biggrin:
 

B4URTIME

Member
Environment is not the cure, it helps a lot. Many thongs can bring in unwanted problems even in the best conditions. Murphy's law. I have seen spotless huge gardens with some plants with PM. Some areas just don't have PM issues. If you go outside and vist your garden you r bringing in unwanted spores of all kinds. Putting on coveralls for shoes and body is a must if your that concerned about this. Adding a Automated Burner is the easiest way to add to any preventative measure.



I have lots horse tail. I dont use it anymore. For me burning was easier to do, plants responded much better then spraying HTT or any other spray. Depending on how bad your outbreak is you could be spraying often. If I had got better results I would still be using HTT.

Obviously a burner works better then anything I have tried. If you have PM after using HTT its not working lol. HTT contains many things that are beneficial for people. The sulfur it contains would requires weekly spraying or more to have the same effect as a burner. Apples and oranges.

If any burn in late flower its there own fault u cant blame the method. IF any have issues using a burner I can guarantee we could get it working properly..

Most issues we have in our gardens are our own mistakes.

Your last statement says it all. Your right environment isn't the cure but its obviously a big part of the overall picture. Properly sealed, Proper Environment and Proper grow room practices goes a long ways in preventing issues with mold or pm.

Don't be good at getting rid of PM, be good at preventing it.
 

Ganjaganjakush

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I've been using "tonic" from mountainorganics as a weekly ipm. It's a cold extracted herbal tincture I notice results overnight after being sprayed like they got a little shot of energy. Here's what's in it Kelp, Horsetail, Nettle, Yarrow, Alfalfa, Neem leaf, Fenugreek, Crimson Clover, Red Clover, Comfrey, Dandelion, Quinoa, Mung, Lentil, Kamut, Millet, Chamomile & Tulsi cold extracted botanical tincture.
 

redlaser

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I've been using "tonic" from mountainorganics as a weekly ipm. It's a cold extracted herbal tincture I notice results overnight after being sprayed like they got a little shot of energy. Here's what's in it Kelp, Horsetail, Nettle, Yarrow, Alfalfa, Neem leaf, Fenugreek, Crimson Clover, Red Clover, Comfrey, Dandelion, Quinoa, Mung, Lentil, Kamut, Millet, Chamomile & Tulsi cold extracted botanical tincture.

Do you know what was used for the extraction? I'm guessing alcohol or glycerin.
 

redlaser

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Environment is not the cure, it helps a lot. Many thongs can bring in unwanted problems even in the best conditions. Murphy's law. I have seen spotless huge gardens with some plants with PM. Some areas just don't have PM issues. If you go outside and vist your garden you r bringing in unwanted spores of all kinds. Putting on coveralls for shoes and body is a must if your that concerned about this. Adding a Automated Burner is the easiest way to add to any preventative measure.



I have lots horse tail. I dont use it anymore. For me burning was easier to do, plants responded much better then spraying HTT or any other spray. Depending on how bad your outbreak is you could be spraying often. If I had got better results I would still be using HTT.

Obviously a burner works better then anything I have tried. If you have PM after using HTT its not working lol. HTT contains many things that are beneficial for people. The sulfur it contains would requires weekly spraying or more to have the same effect as a burner. Apples and oranges.

If any burn in late flower its there own fault u cant blame the method. IF any have issues using a burner I can guarantee we could get it working properly..

Most issues we have in our gardens are our own mistakes.

Some good points Hammer, that second sentence really hit home for me, learned that the hard way. One or two is fine at a time but after that your asking for trouble. :biggrin:
 

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