Yes but soon she will be old fat and stinky and I will have to send her on her way. To make way for the young skinny girls I will need when she is all used up.
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Gorilla Bubble
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Yes but soon she will be old fat and stinky and I will have to send her on her way. To make way for the young skinny girls I will need when she is all used up.
Don't know about Itchy but I never trim on day one... Wait till the end of week one... And start by taking 1/3 of the fans out of the canopy... Have them stripped by the end of stretch and train them every chance till my Scrog is full... And by full I mean 144 tops...
I dont change the feeds out alter them for trimming and training plants... I do like to feed and have them wet before... The second day after is a good day to foliar feds....hope that helps
I trim the hell out of them on day one of 12/12. I take all bud sites except the end one or two. I strip all branches that are not at least a quarter of the size of the branch they come off of. When I take the bud sites I try to leave the fan leaf that is there.
After that I dont trim until about 7-10 days before harvest. I will take the fans at this time. Not all at once but over several days. I try not to slow the plant down by taking to many at one time.
The only time I vary from this is if I have some bud rot or dying fan leaves. I remove those if it happens. I will also some times remove under performing shaded branches if I can not move them to a place they can get full light.
I run the same nutes in veg and flower. I just add some MKP tow to four times in flower after stretch.
This is my first time with Dansbud #6. I have never flowered her before. She seems pretty easy to flower to me.
Thanks for the compliment.
Robney
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Absolutely man, that thing is stacking, and knowing the gorilla bubble line, I bet it's absolute fire! Do you do the same kind of removal with strains that don't stretch as much?
And thank you for your input too Aspenou! Do you do the same kind of removal with strains that don't stretch as much too?
I have a couple plants that I feel like I should remove some fans, but I've always been of the mind set that once something is in flower, you just leave it till you're gonna cut it down, but seeing that thing stack I might be missing something!
Some strains cant handle the stripping at all and you will lose most of your bud doing what I posted above. Golden Goat is one like that. It has almost no stretch in flower.
I try not to remove anything after the stripping on the first day of flower till a week before harvest and then I remove just enough to make it not slow down on the water consumption.
And I am only taking the fans that the stem can be seen all the way to the branch. If you take a fan and the stem of the fan is in a bud it could fall off and get trapped in the bud. It takes me about two weeks to dry a plant so that stem could mold inside the bud. So dont take it because it could be in your bud for 3 weeks in all in a nice damp spot.
The fans I leave are the ones that were next to a growth tip or bud site. If the plant spent a bunch of time growing it dont you think the plant needs it. So why make the plant regrow something again when you want flowers?
Another way to look at it is this. If I strip all the growth sites on a branch and leave just the tip site and all the fans dont you think that that growth tip will do better than a growth tip with just one fan to feed it? I mean 5, 6, 7 fans feeding one growth tip. That is part of the reason that that cola and other grew so large.
There are other reasons also but that is one of the reasons.
Hey guys....Hadta stop in and show respect where it`s due cuz Aspen you`ve come a long way toward dialage in yo lil corner of the world.....Keep strokin with the good work , Dans would be proud of yas….and hey....
Can Icky pump out the dank or what.....Jus sayin , ta leave 1 or 2 tips at the end of a lateral and end up with 20" colas don`t happen overnight boys and girls , and most definitely ain`t luck even though Ickster `s only run Dans GB # 6 this first time....that said.....
Strippin leaves is a double edged sword if you don`t know your strain/hybrid well enough to see where it ends up by end of stretch without ever having touched it to know what effects it has on each plant after the fact.....why ?.....
I was 1 of the forerunner "guinea pigs" back in the day that fell for a self-proclaimed grow guru that seemed to know what he was doin till I went to all my locations and stripped 8 flip rooms of every leaf there was on 512 plants except end nodes EXACTLY @ day 21 and then again @ day 45.....what was the outcome ?.....
My clone only Chem D`s shut down completely and took 2 solid weeks to recover back to the point where they FUCKING were to begin with and what would`ve been Harvey @ 10 weeks took 12 to get every plant to the point of full ripeness.....so....
After dawg cussin this boy on every weedsite there was back then and all but runnin his ass off the internet , I still couldn`t figure out why the tech worked for him but all but killed my shit , and then it hit me like a ton of bricks....Strain/STRETCH related....period.....so.....
I went back to my normal trimming. pruning , and shaping of each plant BEFORE pullin the trigger and flippin 12/12 , and as to where the "know-it-all`s" plants responded well @ 21 days and again @ day 45 was due to the more indica dominant hybrid he was running that finished @ 8 1/2-9 weeks at the latest compared to my Chem D that took a solid 10 weeks if not longer to finish properly...….ok....long story short.....
I self taught my old ass to start after the 40% stretch of each flower period that`s been scientifically determined for each strain , and @ the end of 4 weeks I gradually removed all big fans over a several day period till they were all gone , and depending on how much nitrogen was left in the juice mix till finish determined how much foliage popped back out in the next few weeks till time to do it again.....and then.....
From the end of week 8 until Harvey , I removed everything else foliage wise not connected to a cola for reasons Icky explained concerning potential mold , and as I learned over the following yrs that once all main fans are removed and nitrogen is dwindled from the mix after end of stretch that less leaves popped up due to not as much foliage left to store excess N and causing it.....so lastly....it takes.....
Runs under your belt.....always learn more from each hybrid`s run to dial her ass in better next run and when you think you know it all , ask yo best bro to slap yas and take yas down a peg cuz shit changes daily....aight.....nuff outta my old ass this day.....Miss yas Dans Bro.....
Edit : Thought I was in Aspen`s thread.....sorry Tony....wake n bake was fairly strong this morning lol...sorry to clog yo thread bro ,but I thought it incumbent upon myself to let folks know strippin leaves is by NO MEANS written in stone as to when to or even IF to do it.....so....Take care and....
Peace....DHF....
Can Icky pump out the dank or what.....Jus sayin , ta leave 1 or 2 tips at the end of a lateral and end up with 20" colas don`t happen overnight boys and girls , and most definitely ain`t luck even though Ickster `s only run Dans GB # 6 this first time....that said.....
Strippin leaves is a double edged sword if you don`t know your strain/hybrid well enough to see where it ends up by end of stretch without ever having touched it to know what effects it has on each plant after the fact.....why ?.....
I was 1 of the forerunner "guinea pigs" back in the day that fell for a self-proclaimed grow guru that seemed to know what he was doin till I went to all my locations and stripped 8 flip rooms of every leaf there was on 512 plants except end nodes EXACTLY @ day 21 and then again @ day 45.....what was the outcome ?.....
My clone only Chem D`s shut down completely and took 2 solid weeks to recover back to the point where they FUCKING were to begin with and what would`ve been Harvey @ 10 weeks took 12 to get every plant to the point of full ripeness.....so....
After dawg cussin this boy on every weedsite there was back then and all but runnin his ass off the internet , I still couldn`t figure out why the tech worked for him but all but killed my shit , and then it hit me like a ton of bricks....Strain/STRETCH related....period.....so.....
I went back to my normal trimming. pruning , and shaping of each plant BEFORE pullin the trigger and flippin 12/12 , and as to where the "know-it-all`s" plants responded well @ 21 days and again @ day 45 was due to the more indica dominant hybrid he was running that finished @ 8 1/2-9 weeks at the latest compared to my Chem D that took a solid 10 weeks if not longer to finish properly...….ok....long story short.....
I self taught my old ass to start after the 40% stretch of each flower period that`s been scientifically determined for each strain , and @ the end of 4 weeks I gradually removed all big fans over a several day period till they were all gone , and depending on how much nitrogen was left in the juice mix till finish determined how much foliage popped back out in the next few weeks till time to do it again.....and then.....
From the end of week 8 until Harvey , I removed everything else foliage wise not connected to a cola for reasons Icky explained concerning potential mold , and as I learned over the following yrs that once all main fans are removed and nitrogen is dwindled from the mix after end of stretch that less leaves popped up due to not as much foliage left to store excess N and causing it.....so lastly....it takes.....
Runs under your belt.....always learn more from each hybrid`s run to dial her ass in better next run and when you think you know it all , ask yo best bro to slap yas and take yas down a peg cuz shit changes daily....aight.....nuff outta my old ass this day.....Miss yas Dans Bro.....
Edit : Thought I was in Aspen`s thread.....sorry Tony....wake n bake was fairly strong this morning lol...sorry to clog yo thread bro ,but I thought it incumbent upon myself to let folks know strippin leaves is by NO MEANS written in stone as to when to or even IF to do it.....so....Take care and....
Peace....DHF....
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Exactly. You need to know the strain to know what to strip. I just happen to know that Gorilla Bubble would stretch so I just did it to test what it would do. Having a idea what would happen. And well it stretched a bit more than I had planned.
Aspen has said it before this strain has legs and that is why it made some very large colas.
Good to see you Freds you should post more often. I learned from your post when I started here years ago.
Aspen has said it before this strain has legs and that is why it made some very large colas.
Good to see you Freds you should post more often. I learned from your post when I started here years ago.
Thank you Ichabod! I had the same experience as DHF, it put 2 weeks onto the flower time and I wasn't super happy with how it turned out. But I might have to try that out with some stretchy strains, good to know!
I am not sure if we are on the same page. So I will restate it.
I only trim on day one of flower. Unless during flower I find bud rot, or small undeveloped buds that will not fill in.
Other than these two reasons I will start to take the fans about 7 to 10 days before harvest to help speed up the harvest and to prevent the plant from using them and prevent a good flush.
I do not do a heavy trimming on the first day of flower on plants that have no or very little stretch in flower because they will never recover and I will loose a large amount of the harvest.
The really stretchy leggy plants seem to respond the best to this heavy trimming on the first day of flower.
Please if you are confused ask questions so that you do not hurt your harvest.
Ok Icky when you`re right you`re right......Robney…..what Icky did/does with leggy strains or rather I think he said he was so aggressive with this one due to prior knowledge of it`s stretch and it was more of an experiment to see what the Dansbud # 6 could handle is classic but extreme "lollypopping" on the first day of flip , and him pullin big fans toward the end of cycle is as he said , just assisting the plants to cannibalize themselves and leach out all residual Nitrogen stored in said fanleaves as the flush occurs the last 7-10 days before chop.....now.....
My mistake yesterday was that Icky`s explanation was not about strippin leaves/defoliating but Robney`s question was , and that was why I was confused , but wake n bake was strong yesterday.....Hell ….I thought I was posting in Aspen`s thread so there ya go.....anyways.....bottom line.....know your strain before yas go fukin with her....lol.....
Peace....DHF....
My mistake yesterday was that Icky`s explanation was not about strippin leaves/defoliating but Robney`s question was , and that was why I was confused , but wake n bake was strong yesterday.....Hell ….I thought I was posting in Aspen`s thread so there ya go.....anyways.....bottom line.....know your strain before yas go fukin with her....lol.....
Peace....DHF....
looks absolutely amazing Tony. Hope they smoke as good as they look!
Great JOB
Thanks,
VG
Hey Tony.....Dans gifted me GB#2 and Darlin`s Net a pretty good while back , and I`m wondering which pheno`s to look for concerning arthritis and insomnia meds , plus how long do you run em ?...…
Thanks Bro....DHF....
Thanks Bro....DHF....
Ok Icky when you`re right you`re right......Robney…..what Icky did/does with leggy strains or rather I think he said he was so aggressive with this one due to prior knowledge of it`s stretch and it was more of an experiment to see what the Dansbud # 6 could handle is classic but extreme "lollypopping" on the first day of flip , and him pullin big fans toward the end of cycle is as he said , just assisting the plants to cannibalize themselves and leach out all residual Nitrogen stored in said fanleaves as the flush occurs the last 7-10 days before chop.....now.....
My mistake yesterday was that Icky`s explanation was not about strippin leaves/defoliating but Robney`s question was , and that was why I was confused , but wake n bake was strong yesterday.....Hell ….I thought I was posting in Aspen`s thread so there ya go.....anyways.....bottom line.....know your strain before yas go fukin with her....lol.....
Peace....DHF....
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new lot of gorilla bubble, bx2.
Hey Tony.....Dans gifted me GB#2 and Darlin`s Net a pretty good while back , and I`m wondering which pheno`s to look for concerning arthritis and insomnia meds , plus how long do you run em ?...…
Thanks Bro....DHF....
If you find a true 8 weeker keep it. Will be slower and shorter in the gb. If you get the stretchier phenos they will go 9 min but those are best taken to 10 with a full fade out for your needs. For arthritis id micro dose edibles all day to keep those metabolites in your blood stream.
Welcome back kotter. Lookin good brotha!
tony 
