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Zero respect for 'hunters', scum of the earth IMO.
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.everyone has the right to their opinion.but you do love that supermarket meat I bet lol.....think I am gonna whack a few quail today just cause I can and they taste great wrapped with bacon and tossed on the grill.....I love how threads go astray ....hopefully if shit hits the fan you got hunting friends or yall will starve....I realize its a lot easier to be ignorant of how things work and just buy your meat.....yeehaw biotches...if people had to hunt and process their own meat like the old days a lot of folks would starve..admit it you aint got the skills to provide for yourself...its ok I wont hold it against ya ...
I gave up hunting long ago, but live in an area where it is the norm. Let me guess - you're a city boy. While there are a few idiots within their ranks, by and large hunters are far more connected to nature and respectful of wildlife than people with your attitude. They also fund almost all of the efforts toward keeping the animal populations healthy.
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Unless you are a vegetarian this doesn't make any sense.
As a vegetarian of 17 years, I respect hunters for "facing" death while hunting. I respect them for killing, gutting, cleaning, and storing their own food. I respect them for not buying a Genetically altered animal that has been pumped full of hormones, and antibiotics, and then wrapped in pretty plastic, only to be put in a cooler that is dawned with fluorescent lighting.
If you go to the store to buy your "meat" you are disconnected from the death that has taken place to help your life continue.
If I ever decide to eat meat again (doubtful
) I would only eat meat that I killed myself. Big respect to all hunters out there. Fishermen too.
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I have access to 5000 acres of private hunting land in mendo, endless pigs, quail, mountain quail, turkey, deer, even the occasional elk and bear and no, I don't feel the need one bit to go out and get disease infested nasty ass wild meat that is full of ticks and tastes like shit. Aside from that it's the mentality of hunters I can stand, so redneck white trash it's disgusting. Nobody around here plays by the rules, always poaching on other peoples land, night hunting, spotlighting, taking more than their limit, cooking meth, the list goes on. There is nothing sporting about it...I used to live close to this bust in Texas, happens all the time, some hunter poaching on someone else's land and comes up with a grow, then you have Johnny slave driver of a sheriff come out with inmates and make them do his job! Seen it a dozen times. And yes the supermarket exists for a reason, if you're too broke to buy meat and want to eat tick infested deer that's your problem, has nothing to do with not being able, that's a joke...
as a hunter I have had to learn everything about the animals I hunt... way more than the average citizen.. I also have to watch the animal die then cut out its guts ,skin and process it.... brings me closer to nature and teaches me respect and admiration for the animals I hunt...I have way more respect for a hunter ... we scout out spots ,get our asses up before light and do our own dirty work...I don't jump up and down and smear their blood on my face when I make a kill... I take a moment and admire its beauty and thank it for providing me my food.. I don't trophy hunt...I eat food I have killed atleast 4 time a week minimum....yeehaw...way to stereotype a whole group of people ZERO... I still give ya +k tho cause I understand your ignorance...wild game does not taste like shit man..your just used of store meat ....wild game rules......I will be killing atleast 3 pigs this season minimum
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Rives, if you mean by city boy that it takes a half hour to get up my driveway to my full section of land(640acres) then yes I'm a city boy thru and thru.
man now I am craving deer meat....mmmmmmmmm extra ticks please.....I don't poach,i don't trespass, I don't use meth, I don't spotlight or illegal night hunt... I have a liscense and all permits/tags whatever...I have actually lived off only what I killed or bartered with other hunters for......I am done with this thread as I know better than to try and change someones narrow mind...ooh man there goes a nice turkey .....yeehaw
Where you currently live is pretty much academic - where were you raised?
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Cool superman, you're one in one thousand and I respect you for that.
I actually have a hunter access form ... I approach land owner with the form filled out .. and he can sign it and we have a contract... it has all my info and a list of rules I will follow... and it releases a owner from any stupid shit that might happen... I keep several of em in my car... I do it the right way... which is why I have gotten access to quite a few properties here... the orchards are having pig\deer problems and I plan on thinning the herd a bit....applewood smoked pork rules
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If you want diseased infested meat, continue purchasing it from the store.
Cancer, fecal matter, etc. are all allowed in production meat.
What you say makes absolutely no sense.
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So out of that whole post you picked a single line to attack and say it doesn't make sense cause there are the same hazards in some store bought meat. I don't shop at Wally World for meat brah, my neighbor has 600 grass fed black angus cows...
So the difference between a grass fed cow or a deer in a field is what?
Ill start. The cow has been genetically selected/altered, fed antibiotics,sprayed or bathed in anti-parasitic, given meds /chems throughout its life to enhance growth rate and ends up knocked on the head, throat slit and then hung by it's back legs thrashing and trying to "moo" while gurgling blood, which takes several minutes.
The deer... BANG. Dead. No hormones, no meds, no chems. Maybe a few ticks that leave as the body cools or come off with the hide when removed. Quick death, no "torture" of slaughter, unlike the cow.
Ill start. The cow has been genetically selected/altered, fed antibiotics,sprayed or bathed in anti-parasitic, given meds /chems throughout its life to enhance growth rate and ends up knocked on the head, throat slit and then hung by it's back legs thrashing and trying to "moo" while gurgling blood, which takes several minutes.
The deer... BANG. Dead. No hormones, no meds, no chems. Maybe a few ticks that leave as the body cools or come off with the hide when removed. Quick death, no "torture" of slaughter, unlike the cow.
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deer meat is naturally leaner than any cow...way less fat and therefore healthier....nevermind the other endless reasons......I got my eye on a few for this years season..plan on getting atleast one for gun season and one for archery....I don't eat the fur/skin so ticks aint an issue and I already got lyme disease many years ago in maine....
I used to work in a slaughterhouse... No way could that ever be cleaner then my house. I'll never do more then a deer at a time. Plus I get to trim and remove what I don't like. I bet your neighbor with cows does multiple at a time as well. Even if he only does one cows are much more filthy, when was last time you saw a deer with shit all over it's back?? Just look at nutrition/fat etc of beef and venison compared, venison is way healthier in all categories. Healthy managed deer herds rarely have problems with ticks anyway.
I don't have any problem with someone who hunts because they need the food. That's how man has survived throughout the ages. They HAD to hunt. What burns me up is people who hunt for trophy's...bear heads on their wall, lion heads on their mantle. There is a girl on Facebook who recently caused a stir by posing, smiling, over the carcass of a lion she just shot with a high powered rifle. I mean, this is an endangered species. There are more tigers living in captivity than in the wild. I don't see the "sport" in this type of hunting, and can't imagine why these hunters are proud of their "accomplishments". And don't even get me started on "canned hunts", where ranchers have game fenced in, and nitwits pay big money for the "right" to kill them. It's "fish in a barrel", not sport. If you eat what you kill 'cause you need it, I don't have a problem with that. But this killing just to display machismo is sickening.
And, yes, I am fully aware how contaminated supermarket meat is...pesticides from the grain they eat, growth hormones, antibiotics, feces, etc., which is why I would never touch that stuff. Same goes for Mickey D's or Burger King.
Not to mention the massive environmental damage caused by a billion head of cattle on the planet, eating enough grain to feed the world, grain which would otherwise eliminate starvation. The growing of all this grain has a massive impact: all the fertilizers, and pesticides used to grow them end up in our oceans, one of the big reasons our oceans are dying. I also realize that my post here is not going to change anyone's behavior. They are still going to go to Mickey D's tomorrow, ignoring the facts. Cognitive dissonance rears it's ugly head.
But, Trout, I have no problem with you eating your kills, although I could never ambush a beautiful deer just because it had "trophy" antlers. They are even breeding deer in fenced areas to increase the number of "points".
http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/g...reak-show-bucks-look-genetically-altered-deer
canned hunts & ego-driven "trophy" hunting have as bad a rep among real hunters as it does with you. I would NOT EAT beef or pork if I was as successful hunting as I would like to be. (well, OK. I would still buy bacon, LOL!) but killing a free-roaming deer/elk etc with a bow is damn difficult unless you are one of those "hunters" that pile up corn & other bait to concentrate the animals in one area. salt/mineral blocks are legal in lots of states because studies show that deer etc do not use them much (if at all) during legal hunting season. in the fall they are getting the minerals/nutrients they require from natural foods...
