^this is the only info on pure meao thai i've found.
ace's malawi is highly regarded by many in the "new grail" hunt.
thanks. i've got 2 small gt gardens so even if 1 goes down i got backup. i'll keep posting progress pics.
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Im glad to hear about the progresses of your own F1 Golden Tigers, there's a fast pheno in the line even in the original F1 generation so i think you can also find it easily (growing less than 10 females) in the F2 generation cos the genetic recombination, we indeed have f2 golden tiger seeds from an earlier (3 weeks earlier) phenos. The earliness of course comes from the malawi early pheno, dominant thai expressions are quite long flowering with thinner stems and more delicate looking. Guess you have a wide expression of the malawi-thai genepool, this is quite normal for a F2 generation.
.wow idiit great info! (if only the pics were bigger than thumbnails!)View Image
^gt fast girl. garden1.7/12/2012
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^gt viney train wreck type stem structure. 5' + bush.garden1. 7/12/2012
i've got 2 gt gardens, 4 females. these are all homemade f2s off gt seed stock from ace dated 12/05/10 on back of seed cover.
i have not taken pics of garden 2 yet. garden 1 is the soil that gave me so much grief last year. i added humus but based on the results in garden 2 i believe i need to bring in even more humus into garden 1. logistically very risky to bring in lots of bulky supplements into any of these gardens.
i'm doing an od metro guerrilla grow. i've lost countless gardens to helicopters; we've got 2 full time heli.'s that are constantly "bass fishing for mj plants". i've also followed the beer cans to several of my od grows over the years (rippers). i try to stay out of my areas unless i need to be in there.
i'm a little dazed and confused over gt1 ( fast girl). she will be finished early august. i suspect random pollen crossed into original gt but early aug. is pretty crazy for gt (even hybrids). the buds look and smell just like pure gts. this plant went thru the summer solstice and did not reveg. it's finishing harder than this pic indicates. i'll definitely take pics at harvest and post smoke reports after curing.
viney girl is pic of gt2. she is a bushy 5'+ girl that showed some degree of weak vine like stem structure in the the first months of grow. the stems are much stronger now. i'm hoping to get a meao thai leaning pheno.
i have clones of all 4 gt 2012 girls. i just took clones of gt fast girl. the other 3 clones have rooted. i'll self the best clones so that when ( not if) i shut down the indoor i'll have the next best thing preserved in seed form. i've seen phenotype variation in selfed seed progeny. i prefer to do lots of fresh hybrids off the original clones but what happens when you gotta shut an indoor garden down? worse thing happens i go back to ace for fresh seed stock.
at garden 2 (no pics yet) my one pheno that really best resembles the original f1s from ace is almost 6' tall and nearly 4.5' wide. very healthy, total bush. the last girl (2) at garden 2 is a very similar looking plant that also might be leaning a little to the meao thai side.
all four gt girls were grown under a 17/7 indoor light photo-period and transplanted od may1. they were all placed 6" deep so the 18" transplants were 12" after tp 5/1/2012. i can carry a gym bag with 5 of these transplants inside in front of lots of people into my gardens without drawing undue attention as long as i limit the number of trips i make and thereby give up a pattern of behavior. the idea of carting in larger transplants is unrealistic and the importance of using fem seed stock is self evident. clones are not an option unless you have a full time year round indoor garden with enough space to run this type of program. clones are also reputed to not be as hardy od as seedlings so i use femmed seeds, started indoors when i chose to. try shutting down a clone only indoor garden and getting started back up again
down here the best chance for survival from bugs, rabbits, coyotes and racoons (digging up fresh tps) and especially brutal summers is getting a deep well established root ball in before summer starts (june 15 it often gets very hot and dry,no rain with 100% rh humidity).
i've got to grow late flowering, early transplanting hardy varieties. brown bud rot and stem rot have killed many a plant.
the fast gt (gt hybrid?) shows no sign of revegging and no sign of bud rot or pm.
a lot of people are looking for an early flowering very potent auto-flower strain. herijuana and gt are to me two of the most potent and hardy od strains available ( herijuana is a pacific northwest od ibl if i remember correctly). maybe the early gt girl will prompt someone to do some intentional fast golden tigers.
the smoke tests and bud formation on all four gt girls might be of interest to some and i'll post pics and smoke results.
garden 2 has some monsters that will do the genetics pictorial justice.
again these are my f2s and should not be confused with ace's original seed stock.
yeah, i resized these pics too small
. i'll re-upload the pics into my pc off my camera and repost sometime today. don't know. i grow from seed so i need lots of seeds and i always run my summer gardens off homemade f2s 'cause 10 reg seeds only got 5 females in many cases. these homemade f2s are very vigorous if planted in correctly amended soil. i'll post pics of the lush garden 2 gts soon. there's tremendous variety in both the meao thai and malawi parents of this polysativa hybrid (gt) so i don't suspect bottleneck loss of vigor issues to be a factor until some serious inbeeding for a specific trait has been completed.
i don't honestly know. the mt vine like pheno grew significantly in the stem base area. that was the only major area of growth in the 12 days between pics. looks like she is gearing up to get big by establishing her foundation for future growth. garden 2 has very thick clay soil. the heavy clay seems to hold water retention levels much much better than the sandy clays soils and i suspect the sandy clay soil is much more susceptible to acidic ph drift when od temps. exceed 90 f.
