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Golden Tiger and Malawi vertical grow

mayan

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Gorgeous plants and splendid write-up. I'm currently starting a Malawi, so this is helpful. If the Malawi goes well, I'm girding my loins for the GT - not sure I can do 16 weeks of 12/12 without incident - but man, these two strains have been tugging at my shirt sleeves for a while, so it's time to forge ahead and the information you've given is very helpful and informative. Thanks, Hoots!
 

Hoots

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I'm smoke testing as I write to help 'remind' me of them so I think this will be the last for now as I am rapidly loosing interest in the computer:)......

RED PANAMA,
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Love the way the panamas grow there flowers!

Grown under T5's for 3 weeks of veg, then flowered under 250w for preflowering and 400w for rest of flowering. Flowered for 15 weeks but possibly ready at 14.

Weight from her was 2.5oz, one of the smaller, interesting to see what the green panama brings in. Buds are all lovely palm size balls:)

Would have loved to have run both panamas with the same amount of veg time as others and with more powerfull lighting as they would have got huge!

No problems at all growing them. Fed well early(having learned my lesson!) they were quite happy needing minimum attention. Not to bad for stretching either.

Panama red was the only plant without any real aroma. Neither growing or in dried bud form.

This does not concern me in the least because she has the most divine, cigar like quality to the smoke. Massive individual calyxs, buds are an amalgamation of foxtails. Calyxs are very resinous, drier, not as sticky as malawi and feel big and leathery and tough, some contain three calyxs and mattings of pistils.

The smoke is instantly quality. Very thick and luxuriant. Fill a big bong and make the world white for a while, the best kind of haar!

No real flavor but a warm tingling in the cortex and a slower build than the instantness of the malawis. The world returns from the malawiness of the other side. Like waking from a dream, the red panama is a much more worldly affair.

She is a good smoke to start the day , not as obvoiusly powerfull as the malawis or the GT's, You can still operate in our normal dimensions after a smoke. The others are not giving you that option! But smoked outside in a fine location and she just comes alive. The thick smoke and fresh air, open space and living colour and creatures. So high, smoking inside is almost to small for her, but with a blast of winter sun, she just kindles warm rushes of pleasure. A smoke for the woods and the campfires. Roll on summer:)

Looking forward to comparing her to the long flowering pheno, who had the MOST aromas of any of the others!

Will get some photos of dried buds up soon and will run through the Golden tigers next.

Of tae wander noo tho.....


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mayan

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No real flavor but a warm tingling in the cortex and a slower build than the instantness of the malawis. The world returns from the malawiness of the other side. Like waking from a dream, the red panama is a much more worldly affair.
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Two great lines! Literary, even! Thanks. Someone should compile the Big Book of (Readable) Smoke Reports. It would make a buncha dinero.
 

Easygrowing

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Are you Good or what ? yes im think so-thats insane

How can you wait for 18 weeks..wauww thats long time,but the resultats

talks for them selfs..Your are Good !!! det for vildt det der !!!

10-4 : )
 
excellent smoke reports hoots, and beautiful pictures to accompany them. Malawi is now firmly added to my to do list and Panama has been on it already for some time, and is staying there.

I can hardly believe that you have only been growing for about a year, you're a natural it seems.


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Hoots

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Gorgeous plants and splendid write-up. I'm currently starting a Malawi, so this is helpful. If the Malawi goes well, I'm girding my loins for the GT - not sure I can do 16 weeks of 12/12 without incident - but man, these two strains have been tugging at my shirt sleeves for a while, so it's time to forge ahead and the information you've given is very helpful and informative. Thanks, Hoots!

Cheers Mayan:)

Fantastic, I'm looking forward to seeing some others growing out malawi, just such a beautiful plant to grow. I have a spare bonsai mother of malawi1 that's been in the cold greenhouse since december and seems to be alive. If she survives till the spring its tempting to plant her out in the woods just to see her get big. No way she would flower but would still be a fine thing to see I'm thinking!

Sure you would have no bother at all with the GT's, very forgiving plants. Pleased I only had the one long power cut as this was the biggest concern with growing in winter here but the weather has been very kind indeed this year:)

Are you Good or what ? yes im think so-thats insane

How can you wait for 18 weeks..wauww thats long time,but the resultats

talks for them selfs..Your are Good !!! det for vildt det der !!!

10-4 : )

How's it going Easygrowing!

Ha, aye 18 weeks is a loooooong time. still once the stretch is over its just watching and waiting.

These long flowering plants have such a calm happy feeling about them, not like the fast panic growing of plants that know if they don't finish in time the frost will get them. Sativas seem to be such easy going plants. they know they have all the time in the world!

excellent smoke reports hoots, and beautiful pictures to accompany them. Malawi is now firmly added to my to do list and Panama has been on it already for some time, and is staying there.

I can hardly believe that you have only been growing for about a year, you're a natural it seems.


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Hey twatticusfinch,

Glad your liking!

Good your thinking about the malawi, you won't be disappointed:)

Funny as I was thinking back a year ago when I first thought it might have been good to have a try at growing our own and wondering if there was much on the internet about it.

Now I'm sitting wi jars of bud everywhere, all of it delicious exotic sativas that once lived for me in the world of smokers myths and tales. This is complete testimony to the amount of knowledge fellow growers have poured on to the internet and the help they are willing to give so that a man can smoke a nice wee bit of something after a hard day on the hill.

So a big :thank you: to everyone:)
 

mayan

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Apparently I have to spread more reps around before I can annoint you again, Hoots. Congrats on your sativic successes!!
 

Hoots

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GOLDEN TIGERS

So in the end I had 3 males and 5 females.

Two of the males seemed to be earlier and more on the malawi side and the other was a later flowerer possibly more on the thai side.

All were grown for 7 weeks starting at 14hrs down to 12/12, except for one who germinated later(GT8).

Suffered a little from wrong PH as seedlings but all recovered as soon as a small pot up was given. Other than that they gave no trouble at all. The longer flowerers particularly need no extra nitrogen just a little bloom to keep them green to the end (biobizz bloom 2ml per L)

Great plants to grow:)

So GT5 and GT8 came out a within a night of each other.

GT5
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One of the branchiest and most vigorous of the GTs in the beginning was GT5 and so she got the same treatment as Malawi1 and got an extra 2.5l of soil in her last preflowering pot up.

Then into 20l and under the 600w where she stayed for the duration.

Harvested at 14weeks along side Malawi1 and yielding 7.5oz
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Problems with feeding her in mid flowering like Malawi2 but she continued to flower no bother. Like Malawi2 it was hard to catch up with her once the yellowing had started.

Buds all grew on long thin, very tough whip like stalks, no bending at all. Good weight in them though and very dense , loads of resin and barely a leaf.

She has the same eyewatering effect with to much of a sniff but the smell is quite different to the malawis. A certain tigerish smell is common to them all but GT5 is very fruity, better noses would pick it out, but really fresh juicy mangos, papayas. etc.

Very sticky to work, again the thick black hash left on the fingers after breaking some up
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And she is devastating!

There's no 'I'll just have a wee smoke of this here GT5 and then get on with something'.

She smokes like I imagine the best of the most famous dutch sativa/indicas might smoke like. But with none of the Indica buzz and static. It is a mighty smoke! If you have smoked a pure sativa I'm sure you'll understand what I mean.

The smoke is so tasty and thick, very smooooth. And it hits as quick as the Malawi but no gentle giant of a wave here just the pure force of a spewing volcano. Heat and rushes of exorbitant energy and a massive body stone, but not slouched and deadened, alive and ready. The world goes, time goes in fact most memorys go. Activities are possible but unlikely given the lack of memory about much of existence. Instead just the sheer pleasure of being and the fancy to smoke some more, might as well as nothing else is going to happen now
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Smoked with loved one or close friends and it is just a hoot, if the fun's good then GT5 makes it so much better. My face hurts from laughing so much!

Is possibly highly addictive so be warned!

Definitely getting better and better with the cure.

One of the only plants to not get a cutting of, the shame of it(plenty seeds though
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GT8
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She was a week younger than the others and its shows the difference something like that makes. She got less light due to height problems at times and then it took her time getting into flowering so was edged out of the light a little. It looked like she was a he for a while and so got less light then female she was and the 400w since then.

On top of my feeding better and with her being smaller in a 20l pot she was no problem.

Smelliest of the GT's by far during flowering, she made tight gnarly buds full of resinous calyxs. Dried they are like rocks. Smaller calyxs on her.

Could of had another week or so but grew a few bananas after 3 day powercut, don't blame her at all!

So 14 weeks and 2.5 oz-quite a difference, smallest of the GT's by far!

Not as much of the smell has come through to the dried bud but the smoking of her is lovely. A little more exotic than GT5 and a little less like the familiar, less body and more expansion to the high.

A wee story will describe her effects well.

Visited a friend the other day who was up in the area. Hadn't seen him for a good bit of time. He had a selection of imported hashish that was better than I had seen in years.Very tasty to smoke and very strong.

I think.

Because I had already had a smoke of GT8 before arriving:)

Really good crack, great night, some music and nonsense, but nothing I smoked shifted or changed the GT8 high! I passed around a bowl or two of tiger and that was that, as my friend said he might as well have just thrown his hash on the fire. I didn't dare ask what he had paid for it but I don't think it was cheap.

I left him with something for the morning and away I went.

As he usually would before catching the train in the morning he had a smoke before setting of. I got a text saying he had smoked some GT8 and had had an 'experience' on the platform but was OK now and was enjoying the psychedelic experience of racing through the moors and hills!

He is a long time toker!- you get the idea:)

A wee break then more.....

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porn

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Nice report and post Hoots (I enjoy the reading), sound 4 a real wild sativa, once in Perú (about 8 year's) I smoked some local pot and go to some walk to some's incas place it's was psicodelic one of the most crazy (ninjas, etnical and some visuals jajaja) and heavy spiritual effect's (100% sativa from peru high lands), we wear 4 and all have the same feeling it's very similar to your report's ...
Now Im growing originalhaze x old timer haze and some panama x mextiza/dc and a pair of chilombianas looking for a similar high...

Respect
 

Hoots

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Happy to be the first...I hope it was good for you!!

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Nice report and post Hoots (I enjoy the reading), sound 4 a real wild sativa, once in Perú (about 8 year's) I smoked some local pot and go to some walk to some's incas place it's was psicodelic one of the most crazy (ninjas, etnical and some visuals jajaja) and heavy spiritual effect's (100% sativa from peru high lands), we wear 4 and all have the same feeling it's very similar to your report's ...
Now Im growing originalhaze x old timer haze and some panama x mextiza/dc and a pair of chilombianas looking for a similar high...

Respect

Excellent adventure you had yourself there Porn:) Sounds like they are growing some good stuff in Peru.

Hope you find your smoke in what your growing, GT's are definitely work a look too.
 

Hoots

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Last two are GT4 and GT6, GT1 is just in the jars and I haven't really got to know her yet and the green panama is still drying so I will report on them after a while has past.

Really pleased they finished in the order they did. The reason I shall explain when I get to GT6.

GT4

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GT4 was one of the later to flower and so relegated to the 250w for much of the grow on the basis that she would get more light once the early ones had finished. Not ideal but they took to it ok.

7 weeks veg again(14/10 to 12/12 slowly) and she was harvested at almost 17 weeks flowering.

Both she and GT6 kept stretching out new growth until a long way into flowering which they then attempted to fill with flowers. Both REALLY wanted more light. They got 2/3 weeks of 600w at the end.

Yield from her was just over 5.5oz. With the full 600w all the way through she would have been huge!

Buds on the whole quite loose(more due to poor light I suspect) but are made of clumps of small calyxs covered in dry crystalline resin. Florally smell mixed with , well reminds me of good quality hazelnut butter. Whatever she is it is a lovely delicate warm smell.

None of the stickiness of the others, she has a smooth big smoke. Creamy.

None of the engulfment of the earlier more malawi phenos, she is more high but calm, lovely gentle ripples of sand up and down the spine. She is the only one that can be smoked without changing the nature of the day dramatically.

Think she would probably make some lovely dry sift and I suspect that she would be quite different under more powerful lights.

And last for now,

GT6

And she gets a herself :groupwave:
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Harvested at just over 18 weeks she grew like GT4 under a 250w for most of the grow, the most thai looking to my mind. Huge calyxs, and lots of big globules of resin.

The least hungry of all, barely needed any feeding or she would show tip burn really quickly.

Buds more similar to GT4, loose but cluster of calyxs are much bigger.

Yeild was just under 6oz:jump:, again if it had been put under the 600w, WOW.

Because the reason that I was pleased they were harvested in this order is that now I get to smoke test some GT6, and then I'm done and get to turn the computer off and smoke some more of her:)

Smell from jar is not as mentholated in its effect as some of the others,its much sharper , pierces into higher aroma bands than I am used to. in fact if you didn't smoke often then a smell at the jar would be enough for a while.

Calyxs are just a fuzz of resin, resin dryer but still very sticky. Eyes starting to go a bit working it , no real smell other than a general GT aroma. Having a wee sook before bringing the flame gives slighty fruity tang that starts the belly tingling a little. Slight waft of flame brings a smell and taste of quality ganja, good inhale and the lungs expand forever and it sparkles.

Crazy smile Crazy thoughts and all the energy to dance them through. Oh she's good.

Smoke a few tasty ones and she is like good clean acid, psychedelic and true. Just a touch of the gentle wave from the malawi keeping things calm, no stress just big open space to play. She probably has a ceiling but I havnae seen it yet:)

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Hows it going Mr Fecund?

The thing that interested me most about the different strength of lights was how much more vibrant the plants became as they moved under stronger lights. But even the 600w is nothing compared to the Spanish sun which I suspect is also nothing like African/SE Asian sun either.

The plants that finished quicker got the best light in this grow, the later ones got better light as the earlier flowerers left. From my wee grow I would say that the Malawi would be happiest under least light. The seed malawis got the 600w which they loved but cuttings for seeds were done under the 250w and they smell and smoke and are just as tight as the mothers. The green panama and the more thai GTs clearly wanted as much light as they could get. A malawi pheno GT cutting was also done under the 250W and did lovely to.

Grandmaster B suggests Satori but as a matter of interest I grew out a Mandala#1 seed I had left early on in the grow. 3 weeks veg and 9 weeks flowering under the edge of the 250w gave a quite loose buds of a pleasant smoke( 1 oz in all). Mandala#1 is rated by the breeders as needing less light than the Satori. My two most thai golden tigers GT4 and GT6 got a bit more of the 250w than the Mandala did on some buds and a LOT less on others.

GT4 has weighed in at 5oz, and although the buds are loose where they didn't get the light as much, it's mainly all resinous calyx. The smoke is in a different league altogether:)

But I know just how amazing they all would have been with stronger light, but have faith Mr Fecund, you will not be disappointed!

thanks champ, going not to bad if u ask me, a little low on the good herb but you know.

mr hoots i just seen you talkin bout some other interesting genetics elsewhere, good stuff!

n thanks 4 the 250 advice, must b worth a crack.

so in the end i now hav 3 GT seedlings. to be honest i'm hoping for a male to make my first seeds. but in the same i'll be disappointed if i dont get a female either. thinkin these guys wont get ne veg time just sex em out, sample females esp. if theres more than one, and of course make seeds. flowerin sum other for the bulk of my smoko any girls will probs take the stage for my next smoko grow.

cheers
 

dubi

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The Malawi and Golden Tiger female ratio is usually high, over 75 % females easily.

Hoots, Im glad you are enjoying with all the different plants. And thanks for all your detailed descriptions, i can almost appreciate them from here :)

Best wishes with your new Golden Tiger Cannabis Fecund ;)
 

Easygrowing

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Yes a welldone plant and smoke report-like your lightcyclos Hoots.And
have set some Malawi seeds in paper . ) will dust some Nepals with Malawi.
Those 14 hours and down i have to try..But 18 weeks-long time for wait but yes.

Have a good pipe or 2 .: - /
 
The Malawi and Golden Tiger female ratio is usually high, over 75 % females easily.

Hoots, Im glad you are enjoying with all the different plants. And thanks for all your detailed descriptions, i can almost appreciate them from here :)

Best wishes with your new Golden Tiger Cannabis Fecund ;)


thanks dubi just sent u guys an email re sales.

to be honest i lost another 3, but in my defense 1 of those wasnt my fault:) i'll be happy with what i get. i remember i had previous plans of hitting a GT with a black widow male, so whatever happens i'll either have a male to muck around with or a few females to choose from. and its kinda cheating using such good lines to produce my first seed, it could be some good stuff and everyone will just assume i know what im doing:)

kinda leaving the web community, got some study i need to finish so no jumping on forums everyday until its done. theres some good lads around that have taught me plenty. bit sad but thanks for those who have put the info out there.

cheers
 

maxibiogreen

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That was a real nice read hoots,it seems you ve had a great moment growing these girls.
I m happy for you and Thx for that moment.:ying:
 

paulo73

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Gonna pop a few GTs next so i´m well happy after looking at those huge&pretty things.
Well done hoots!
 
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