The Trol Master controls co2 temps my AC and Dehumidifier... Its the shit.. I have device stations set up to both mix and Areate my main Res... It keeps the day and night set points on point
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The Trol Master controls co2 temps my AC and Dehumidifier... Its the shit.. I have device stations set up to both mix and Areate my main Res... It keeps the day and night set points on point
I'm working the lower Scrog to death... Day 5 of flower...
I'm gonna see 7+ pounds of Dank in 10 weeks...
I'm gonna see 7+ pounds of Dank in 10 weeks...
RockinRobot
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mentioned this in the Florida thread, but, Isn't 4.6 a tad (LOT) low for PH? 5.6 I could see...
Nope... It will rebound and is already on the climb ... CES its good stuff
RockinRobot
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I may be wrong but I'm thinking that they are assuming either a recirculating system or DWC. You're doing DTW though so your reservoir Ph won't change from the uptake of calcium and will always be 4.6. As long as the girls are likeing it you're golden. The girls will let ya know.
Root zone Ph may change but I would think you're going to always be feeding 4.6 Ph
I'm sure you've spoken to them though. Just doesn't sound correct for DTW.
Root zone Ph may change but I would think you're going to always be feeding 4.6 Ph
I'm sure you've spoken to them though. Just doesn't sound correct for DTW.
What medium are you using? Coco? Soil mix? Are you feeding drain to waste? I would make sure the plant doesn’t see any of the nute solution until it gets to 5.8. If your ph is rising too high I would turn off the air pumps in the reservoir and cycle it on just before feeding.
No guys really... Its all part of the plan... What's left in the res goes back up to normal in under 48 hours... And will be fed for an additional 3 days on the same res... I've talked to Smokin Joe and called them... There was a learning curve to mix it up... And with CES full strength is the way to go... I've been watering it down but now I'm mixing up at almost full strength..
The plants are loving it
Maybe change the res at the end of lights on/beginning of lights off to let the ph raise over night. I can assure you that they will enjoy it more if the first feed out of the fresh res is more like 5.8, at least 5.5. I like the ph to drift up also until late flower then it’s 6.1-6.2 everyday. I am in straight coco.
I read and watched a few things about the ces and I see what they are saying, just a bigger drift to allow for elemental uptake. It’s just different than what I have experience with but like I said I like the ph to drift just seems a little low. I would have to do a side by side to see how low is too low. I used the full new millennium line for a couple years and was very happy with the results. There line is all about the fulvic acid so somewhat similar.
I read and watched a few things about the ces and I see what they are saying, just a bigger drift to allow for elemental uptake. It’s just different than what I have experience with but like I said I like the ph to drift just seems a little low. I would have to do a side by side to see how low is too low. I used the full new millennium line for a couple years and was very happy with the results. There line is all about the fulvic acid so somewhat similar.
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Trust me... This works out and really gets the calcium in the plants.... It really works like they say it works
The plant amp formula of cutting edge solutions is a moble form of calcium. It may not raise much in the res but is the first nutrient the plants uptake from the feeding. As the calcium is taken in by the plants the ph will rise to the point it was at before adding the plant amp. Nutrients are not all taken in by the plant at the same ph range. This is why a ph swing is helpful.
Trying adding cal mag to a res and see what the ph does. I promise you it will not drop the ph 2 1/2 points like plant amp will.
Aspen, this is the very reason I don't share my methods with the masses. Everyone has an opinion (as do I) and I care not to argue.
Trying adding cal mag to a res and see what the ph does. I promise you it will not drop the ph 2 1/2 points like plant amp will.
Aspen, this is the very reason I don't share my methods with the masses. Everyone has an opinion (as do I) and I care not to argue.
Smokin Joe... Your the best... Ill show them with fat dank ladies... Lol
Oh your good... Its really good stuff... I spoke with a guy from CES for about two hours... The haven't changed a single thing in this formula in 15 years... My friend Smokin Joe uses it... And My friend THE Original Outkast use to use it... For my needs I think it will work great.. Calcium is the main thing missing in abundance in most nute lines... I believe calcium is and should be just as important at the base NPK... The new plant sciences are proving that right... Its a Harley Smith discovery.... Its good stuff the Calcium at high enough levels in your plants makes them a bad option for bugs and powdery mildew... I put a lot of thought in what I needed and wanted and looked at different nute company's for months... And last flower round I remixed my V+B npk adding calcium and I increased my harvest weight by 1.3 pounds in the same room before any upgrades were made... The V+B being a one part it has binders and is stabilized.. That mix fought me tooth and nail... Keeping it right... Wasn't stable in flower at all... But it was enough to prove to me that Calcium made all the difference...
Itsmychoice... Hey I took your advise and added two shutoff valves to the air lines for the main res... The Airstones are raising ph to fast... So ill only drop them in for about 30 minutes a day... I have a air pump powerful enough so this is working good
High calcium is nothing new. It's been part of the concept of CEC and base saturation in soil for decades. My base saturation is 85% calcium.
Not being critical, just sharing and slightly surprised. I thought everyone was growing this way?
Who is Harley Smith? Albrecht was preaching this in the 1930's.
dank.Frank
Not being critical, just sharing and slightly surprised. I thought everyone was growing this way?
Who is Harley Smith? Albrecht was preaching this in the 1930's.
dank.Frank
It wasn’t the calcium part that’s surprising it was the ph being 4.6 and the plant being fine with that. The “plant amp” product is a chelated calcium that ces states is taken up more quickly in a low ph range like 4.0-5.0. It’s pretty interesting.
Harley Smith is with NPK Industry's and he has formulated more than one of the leading brands of nutes on the market... Its not a new idea but I would bet most hydro growers settle for what's in there formulation and add a little cal mag... And that's missing the whole point...
RockinRobot
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WOW sorry Aspen didn't mean to start shit. Looks like I started trouble with that 4.6Ph post
