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Smokin Joe

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I don't remember the brand of the sample we got. It's what we were talking about a couple of weeks ago that compares to v&b.
I filled a 55gallon rez, set ph at 5.6. 3 days later the ph raised to 6.1 so I dropped it back down. 2 days later and it's 5.9
Don't think I'm gonna waist my money on it. Too much trouble without auto ph adjustment.
 

dansbuds

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I don't remember the brand of the sample we got. It's what we were talking about a couple of weeks ago that compares to v&b.
I filled a 55gallon rez, set ph at 5.6. 3 days later the ph raised to 6.1 so I dropped it back down. 2 days later and it's 5.9
Don't think I'm gonna waist my money on it. Too much trouble without auto ph adjustment.

i was hoping to hear from somebody about that stuff ..... i haven't tried it yet . doubt i will after the reports i've been hearing .
 

packerfan79

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I don't remember the brand of the sample we got. It's what we were talking about a couple of weeks ago that compares to v&b.
I filled a 55gallon rez, set ph at 5.6. 3 days later the ph raised to 6.1 so I dropped it back down. 2 days later and it's 5.9
Don't think I'm gonna waist my money on it. Too much trouble without auto ph adjustment.

It was mega crop, my sample is in a box somewhere in my disaster of a garage. I had to shutdown befor I had a chance to try it. I am thinking of going back to soil and botanicare when I start up again. I feel like the soil bud I grew was better than the coco bud.
 

MrBungle

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Looking at their PPM calculator (mega crop) on their site.. Seems kinda low on the P for during flowering, 72 grams in a 12 gal res yields 38.0431 ppm P

It is nice that they draw it all out for you using a simple calculator on their website...

How do they mix it all together into an end all be all 1 part fert system without creating mineral bonding issues?

The sample would cover the needs of 1 or 2 plants through out their entire life cycle...

That would be some extra busy work to mix that up special just to see if it works
 

Aspenou812

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I have colas larger then a 20 ounce coke bottle... I'm just done experimenting... can't afford to... the V+B just works and is so simple... Listen go with what you know unless you have a tester tray... yeah its expencive but... This ain't a cheep hobby...
 

Aspenou812

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why in the fuck would someone want to talk politics... on a weed sight... I was about to jump ship... but the mag is looking better this morning...
 

RockinRobot

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I have colas larger then a 20 liter coke bottle... I'm just done experimenting... can't afford to... the V+B just works and is so simple... Listen go with what you know unless you have a tester tray... yeah its expencive but... This ain't a cheep hobby...

I started out using GH 3 part in Lucas formula (micro and bloom only) but recently decided to try straight Maxi bloom dry. I've had faster bud set, larger buds and less deficiency issues. I can't get V+B locally so Maxi bloom is much cheaper for me. Shipping fees suck.

I've also heard some of the V+B people are switching to Maxi bloom, though not sure how accurate that may be.

Latest grow of Super Silver Haze at 25 days nothing but Maxi bloom and some liquid kool bloom.

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unclefishstick

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I have colas larger then a 20 liter coke bottle... I'm just done experimenting... can't afford to... the V+B just works and is so simple... Listen go with what you know unless you have a tester tray... yeah its expencive but... This ain't a cheep hobby...

im guessing you mean a 20 oz soda bottle,not 20 liters!

why in the fuck would someone want to talk politics... on a weed sight... I was about to jump ship... but the mag is looking better this morning...

thats why they dont allow it here,it just turns into a stupid penis waving contest...polotics should only be spoken about when theres good whiskey nearby...
 

dansbuds

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I started out using GH 3 part in Lucas formula (micro and bloom only) but recently decided to try straight Maxi bloom dry. I've had faster bud set, larger buds and less deficiency issues. I can't get V+B locally so Maxi bloom is much cheaper for me. Shipping fees suck.

I've also heard some of the V+B people are switching to Maxi bloom, though not sure how accurate that may be.

Latest grow of Super Silver Haze at 25 days nothing but Maxi bloom and some liquid kool bloom.

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some people are switching to maxi grow for veg , when feeding light with the V&B you get defs . i was having the same problem & tried a few additives to try & help with it . but i found if you feed heavier in veg than your used to 90% of the problems go away . i still use some vitamins & amino acids in veg , but sense going up considerably on the veg doses , my veg has never been better !!!
 

RockinRobot

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some people are switching to maxi grow for veg , when feeding light with the V&B you get defs . i was having the same problem & tried a few additives to try & help with it . but i found if you feed heavier in veg than your used to 90% of the problems go away . i still use some vitamins & amino acids in veg , but sense going up considerably on the veg doses , my veg has never been better !!!

I've never had issues in veg. I did run into P deficiency mid flower ever since starting CO2 though. For me the switch to Maxi bloom and just that little boost has really made a difference.

I would definitely try the V+B if I could source it locally. But I get the 2.2lb bag of Maxi bloom for $16 at my local store.
 

Aspenou812

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im guessing you mean a 20 oz soda bottle,not 20 liters!



thats why they dont allow it here,it just turns into a stupid penis waving contest...polotics should only be spoken about when theres good whiskey nearby...

You that exactly what I mean... and peins waving contest suck... no way I can have a chance at winning one of those...
 

Aspenou812

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RR those look perfectly healthy... no denying that... I used maxi in veg for a long time... I would set the ph at 6.2 and it would always drop really quickly... the V+B is dead stable in my RO with my water supply
 

dansbuds

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RR those look perfectly healthy... no denying that... I used maxi in veg for a long time... I would set the ph at 6.2 and it would always drop really quickly... the V+B is dead stable in my RO with my water supply

mine was too in the basement .... sense moving the grow to the garage , it drops like every other day . i've even tried advanced PH up & its made a little difference , but i still get the PH drop alot faster than i used to !
 

RockinRobot

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RR those look perfectly healthy... no denying that... I used maxi in veg for a long time... I would set the ph at 6.2 and it would always drop really quickly... the V+B is dead stable in my RO with my water supply

Wow I haven't seen any issues like this. I have to adjust ph about every 2-3 days but I have to adjust it down not up. I'm running recirculating though not DTW like you and Dan. Other than the explosive growth I have seen no difference in the way ph fluctuates from Lucas formula.

I set ph at 5.7-5.8 let it go up to 6.1 then adjust back down.
 

packerfan79

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Wow I haven't seen any issues like this. I have to adjust ph about every 2-3 days but I have to adjust it down not up. I'm running recirculating though not DTW like you and Dan. Other than the explosive growth I have seen no difference in the way ph fluctuates from Lucas formula.

I set ph at 5.7-5.8 let it go up to 6.1 then adjust back down.

It must be something to do with the RO water because I have only had ph rise. I haven't bought a bottle of ph up since I quit using RO water. I kno w it's more difficult to change and maintain ph with RO water. The guy who owns the local hydroshop told me years ago, with coco all you need is a dechlorinator. We have good water here, like 90 ppms.
 

Drumskinz

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It must be something to do with the RO water because I have only had ph rise. I haven't bought a bottle of ph up since I quit using RO water. I kno w it's more difficult to change and maintain ph with RO water. The guy who owns the local hydroshop told me years ago, with coco all you need is a dechlorinator. We have good water here, like 90 ppms.

I get about 1/2 gal. minute with my well. Water is very alkaline like 8.4 ph on a good day. So I use v&b hard along with AN down in my rez and I have to adjust down again after 3 or 4 days...never more than 1/4 to 1/2 ml.
 

Aspenou812

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It must be something to do with the RO water because I have only had ph rise. I haven't bought a bottle of ph up since I quit using RO water. I kno w it's more difficult to change and maintain ph with RO water. The guy who owns the local hydroshop told me years ago, with coco all you need is a dechlorinator. We have good water here, like 90 ppms.

Incoming water supply makes all the difference in the world... not all H2O is the same its source dependant and varys by location...
 

Smokin Joe

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mine was too in the basement .... sense moving the grow to the garage , it drops like every other day . i've even tried advanced PH up & its made a little difference , but i still get the PH drop alot faster than i used to !

I don't know what you and I have that's different other than you having ro. When I mix v&b at 5 grams per gallon the ph lands at 5.6 and stays there. No adjustments required. My veg I mix 4 grams per gallon and it lands at 5.8 so I drop it to 5.6 and it's rock steady also :dunno:
 

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