Getting Durdy w/ recycled soil!

[Durdy]

Good to know! Probably not the best choice then. I'll have to look into the mizuna. I need something that can withstand fairly cold temperatures. For the next few months its not uncommon to hit 80 in the day and 30 at night.

That sounds like a very fun activity! Your granddaughter must have had a blast!. I think I'll treat myself to that come springtime haha.

 

[Durdy]

Heres my mix as it currently stands, or sits........he he

30 gal of my outdoor mix (50% black gold coco coir, 30% perlite, 10% Malibu Compost, 10% Edna's best worm casting) this stuff was used on my outdoor gals over the summer.

15 gal of sacred cow compost

5 cups crab meal

5 cups kelp meal

handful mychorrizae

5 cups neem cake

5 cups oyster shell flour

5 cups azomite

25 cups glacial rock dust

5 cups basalt rock dust

5 cups alfalfa meal

15 gallons rice hulls

5 gallons topsoil from my backyard(clay, very dense)

65 gallons total

been sitting for four weeks now, will sit atleast another two before I can get at it.

Suggestions? Comments? I'm still alittle worried about the availabiltiy of calcium in the mix.

will the amount of sulfur in the azomite and glacial rock dust be enough to make it available?

 

[SeaMaiden]

I've tended to view availability as as much a function of the microbes as anything else, for all intents and purposes. This is where I always like to inoculate, inoculate, inoculate. However, it should be remembered that mycorrhizae specifically (Jesus, did I just forget how to spell mycorrhizae?) won't live for long in absence of plant roots. Fortunately, we have other microbes that can mineralize (fix) these nutrients within their tiny bodies.

If your compost is biologically active then you shouldn't need to inoculate.

Oh! Your clay, what color is it? What grows in it?

 

[Durdy]

Good to know! I forgot they were generally referred to with endo and ecto thus having a relationship with the roots. I've given it many many teas, and my compost is very active already, so it should be thriving with life!

My clay is a deep brown color that also almost looks a bit gray. Many things grow in it like my three citrus trees, these beautiful pink and white wild flowers that reseed every year, my neighbors have apple olive and walnut trees, my concord grape, laurel bushes that line the side of my yard, I think thats about it.

On the olive farm I work on there is a red clay I can take as well as olive tree leaf litter.

I assume different colors means it contains different minerals?

 

[SeaMaiden]

I believe that to be true, yes. For example, my clay is rather red-orange, and as it turns out the well has a good bit of iron in it, but also CaCO3 and MgCO3. But I have low fertility in this here clay, and it sounds like yours has excellent fertility.

Olive farm, eh...? I make a mean eggplant caponata, but it's the olives that make it SPENDY..! Oh my goodness. Wicked good, though, wicked good.

 

[Durdy]

Interesting, I'll have to ask around about the content of our local top soil here in different areas. We only press olive oil, no cured olives, harvest and processing is going on as we speak! I personally don't do any work on the orchards. I taste for quality and process / package. Never had eggplant caponata, looks similar to ratatouille.

 

[SeaMaiden]

Different olives for different purposes? I never thought about it, but should have. The caponata was actually made from 100% Asian eggplants, and I can't stop eating it once I get started. I had to make sure it was sufficiently acid in order to pressure can it, but it turned out beautifully.

You have to have a more refined palate to do the tasting, don't you?

 

[Durdy]

Yes indeed, I think you can cure any olive but some work better then others. The varieties we grow are best for oil production. That caponata sounds delicious!

In terms of the palate thing, I'd say it was more practice than anything. After several years of doing it the differences just kind of start to show themselves to you.

 

[Durdy]

Some music for you while you read!

Gold Panda - You

Flying Lotus - Massage Situation

Bibio - Fire Ant

Tea time! Alfalfa sprout tea. Just picked up some barley seed at the seed / feed store, sprouting as we speak.

I forgot what this plant was after planting it, if taste is any indication it tastes like arugula but has a completely different textures. She's a champ though, been through about 10 frosts now and still going strong (if slow)

Barley seed, Rye/Wheat/Barley/Vetch cover crop mix, Kelp Meal, Fish Meal, Dutch White Clover!

 

[Durdy]

Veg Room (tent)

This pics got a funny green glow to it.

J-one In a mix of EWC, Rice Hulls, and Vermiculite

The next two I'm not sure which is which, but anywhoo Maui Wowie and God's gift. They were both gifted to me from a friend for xmas. They were transplanted into my first round of ROLS about 10 days ago

This is a Qrazy Train plant, also a gift from said friend above.
It was transplanted from a 3 gal pot of straight coco coir to a 5 gal of my ROLS

 

[SeaMaiden]

I love that green glow, it totally reminds me of one of my favorite movies, Excalibur. And, you've got some Mauie Wowie? That's one of the parents of a cut I lost last year, called Mother of Thor. Oh. My. God. This shit put EVERYONE's dicks in the dirt!

Some music for you while you read!

Gold Panda - You

Flying Lotus - Massage Situation

Bibio - Fire Ant

Tea time! Alfalfa sprout tea. Just picked up some barley seed at the seed / feed store, sprouting as we speak.

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I forgot what this plant was after planting it, if taste is any indication it tastes like arugula but has a completely different textures. She's a champ though, been through about 10 frosts now and still going strong (if slow)

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Barley seed, Rye/Wheat/Barley/Vetch cover crop mix, Kelp Meal, Fish Meal, Dutch White Clover!
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I call that Sunshine in a Bag.

 

[Durdy]

Yeah I'm hoping to see some good things from that Maui, I've always wanted some!

 

[MileHighGuy]

Nice! Glad I found this thread. Tagging up right now.

 

[Durdy]

Great to have you aboard MHG

 

[Neo 420]

I'll pull up a seat for this one..

 

[BasementGrower]

i learned the hardway about using outdoor soil indoors.. and ill never do it again.. good luck.. i do reuse my old indoor soill and i just mix it 1 to 1 with new .. and its fine.. actually works great.. cause its flushed.. and then wne i shop.. i give them all a hit of cannazym . hygrozyme.. and rhizotonic.. then let them dry out a little.. and put into totes to chill.. and wen needed i mix and use.. so far ive been doing good.. lots of amazing shit.

 

[MileHighGuy]

i learned the hardway about using outdoor soil indoors.. and ill never do it again.. good luck.. i do reuse my old indoor soill and i just mix it 1 to 1 with new .. and its fine.. actually works great.. cause its flushed.. and then wne i shop.. i give them all a hit of cannazym . hygrozyme.. and rhizotonic.. then let them dry out a little.. and put into totes to chill.. and wen needed i mix and use.. so far ive been doing good.. lots of amazing shit.

What is the difference of soil inside... rather than outside?

Just curious why you'll never run outdoor soil again....

 

[Durdy]

I have very limited indoor space, so keeping my soil inside isn't an option, I'm not trying to keep this grow 100% bug free. A balance of prey / predators is what I'm hoping for. I just discovered an amazing bug supply place just down the road from me! They have everything one could want!

Either way isn't all soil indoor growers use kept outside at some point in time during the supply chain?

Welcome Neo, the main show should start in about 2 weeks.

 

[Durdy]

Basement grower - what problems came about for you? What soil were you using? Did you add any amendments?

 

[MileHighGuy]

Either way isn't all soil indoor growers use kept outside at some point in time during the supply chain?

My thoughts exactly....


I think the soil food web wasn't in balance... that's all there is to it.

Soil is soil. I'm guessing some bottled nutrients were involved.