Gender dysphoria and the trans movement.

[eastcoastjoe]

We can't move on.

You are stuck.

Emotion, defies logic. Someone with your educational background should know that.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Your contemptuous disrespectful presentation is all you seem to be able to accomplish.

I don't feel like you are able or willing to learn.

You have a bone to pick, a chip on your shoulder, and one objective.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Weak bones, stunted growth, inroads for cancer.

100%. And that is just the physical impacts on the body. the mental health picture is much trickier. Precisely why we should not be allowing young children to assault their bodies with chemistry at such a young age. Especially when they do not have the mental capability to understand the irreversible changes that can, and will happen to their bodies due to their decision.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Parents are still in charge of their children and their bodies.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Your contemptuous disrespectful presentation is all you seem to be able to accomplish.

I don't feel like you are able or willing to learn.

You have a bone to pick, a chip on your shoulder, and one objective.

For someone that has the education you claim, it should not be hard for you to agree that medicine is science based. Keeping that in mind, why are we allowing minors to access health treatments that are life altering with zero scientific data ?
There are zero studies, showing the safety for these kinds of treatments on minors ,let alone adults. Mind you, these gender ideologies, cannot even be defended using very basic biology.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Parents are still in charge of their children and their bodies.

If that is true, why are we trying to take away a Parents rights that choose not to agree to let their minor child transition? You just contradicted yourself right there

 

[mean mr.mustard]

If that is true, why are we trying to take away a Parents rights that choose not to agree to let their minor child transition? You just contradicted yourself right there

What the hell are you on?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Banning freedom is the wrong direction. Trusting informed parents to act in the best interests of their children is far more preferable to legislating morality.

There's a faction of folks who are completely disgusted by, and opposed to, the liberty trans people express.

It's a slippery slope passing laws to limit the freedom afforded to the people... no matter your personal beliefs.

The next step is to assert that the mental health of the children would be damaged by gay people...

Then probably black and brown people...

Or Jews...

Countries can fall apart like that.

Our freedom is far more precious than fear and hate.

 

[RobFromTX]

Weak bones, stunted growth, inroads for cancer.

Yep and multiple organ failure , heart problems, the same as taking HRT treatments as an adult

That shit is one step up from street junk

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Or a vaccine.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

What the hell are you on?

The fear of parents not having the choice over a minor is asinine.

Parents are still in charge of their children and their bodies.

Constantly contradicting yourself.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Banning freedom is the wrong direction. Trusting informed parents to act in the best interests of their children is far more preferable to legislating morality.

There's a faction of folks who are completely disgusted by, and opposed to, the liberty trans people express.

It's a slippery slope passing laws to limit the freedom afforded to the people... no matter your personal beliefs.

The next step is to assert that the mental health of the children would be damaged by gay people...

Then probably black and brown people...

Or Jews...

Countries can fall apart like that.

Our freedom is far more precious than fear and hate.

Someone needs to protect our youth. It surely won’t be people like you. How come you won’t talk about the lack of research on the medical effects these drugs can have ? Or, you won’t even acknowledge the possible negative effects these drugs can have ?

 

[eastcoastjoe]

The next step is to assert that the mental health of the children would be damaged by gay people...

I’m glad you mentioned mental health. Do hormone blockers or transition surgeries have any negative mental health consequences for kids ?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Constantly contradicting yourself.

Those points are all in line with one another.

Someone needs to protect our youth. It surely won’t be people like you.

I'm sure that you're sure.

How come you won’t talk about the lack of research on the medical effects these drugs can have ?

Because you are sure that I know nothing. I am acutely aware of a lack of research data. If I gave you any credence towards an objective conversation, I would probably pursue such.

Or, you won’t even acknowledge the possible negative effects these drugs can have ?

I will acknowledge them, you are repeatedly accusing me of something of which I am not guilty.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I’m glad you mentioned mental health.

That was you again.

Do hormone blockers or transition surgeries have any negative mental health consequences for kids ?

The jury is still out on that.

The fear mongering chicken little bigots certainly aren't creating a safe space for their mental health.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Those points are all in line with one another.



I'm sure that you're sure.



Because you are sure that I know nothing. I am acutely aware of a lack of research data. If I gave you any credence towards an objective conversation, I would probably pursue such.



I will acknowledge them, you are repeatedly accusing me of something of which I am not guilty.

In one breath, you say, kids should have the freedom to do as they choose t in regards to gender care. But I am when it suits your argument, you say parents should have the right to choose for their kid. So which one is it? See, you can’t have it both ways.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

In one breath, you say, kids should have the freedom to do as they choose t in regards to gender care. But I am when it suits your argument, you say parents should have the right to choose for their kid. So which one is it? See, you can’t have it both ways.

What you are missing this time is my prerequisite of parental consent.

I spent pages with you on this.

I quit.

You're far too dense.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Those points are all in line with one another.



I'm sure that you're sure.



Because you are sure that I know nothing. I am acutely aware of a lack of research data. If I gave you any credence towards an objective conversation, I would probably pursue such.



I will acknowledge them, you are repeatedly accusing me of something of which I am not guilty.

Then, how come you don’t answer the question? Someone with your education knows exactly what those types of drugs can do to people. But it doesn’t suit your argument, so you omit that part or completely dodged the question.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I'm sure.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

What you are missing this time is my prerequisite of parental consent.

I spent pages with you on this.

I quit.

You're far too dense.

When I talked about lack of parental consent, for these therapies, you criticize that, and say that these minors should have freedom and liberty