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fucking fungus gnat cures

waveguide

Active member
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in the desert, life stands out. seedlings and moisture draw predators.

people don't believe me much but fungus gnats can fuck you up. couple years ago i sprouted a tray of food seeds for sprouts, maybe 1000 seeds, every single fucking one wiped out.

given my age and experience, i should be embarassed not to yield like pounds each year, but my life has to suck because i fight the freemasons, so i get a tiny fucking micro grow.

and all the time, time after time after time, i go through shit.

people think, weed is a way to reduce stress. the fuck do they know.

so THIS time...

i get new, precious genetics. i already know what i'm up against. i mix my soil with dynagro neem oil. i keep my fucking starts in a fucking net, where they get hardly any air circulation, but it gives them a few days protection from the motherfuckers.

and of course, this is a micro, which means, if i bump something with my sleeve, a dozen tiny containers topple over. you know about that shit? you do now.

so my old neem bottle is out, never fear! i bought some new neem!

but guess what, i guess someone must have left it in the sun because it doesn't work for fuck. spraying it all over my veggie garden, the aphids don't care at all.

someone needs to get the shit beat out of them because that neem investment is all a poor old fucker had between them and fucking oblivion. understand that.

so two weeks in and it's clear my neem is worthless. my seedlings are emaciated. elevate to step 2: AGSIL

i don't know whether to love or hate whoever got me on agsil for gnats. that's why i call this thread fucking cures, because using enough agsil to stop gnats is hardcore ph nightmare for tiny plants.

and, all i ever see are tiny fucking plants, bro.

(oh yeah - step 2 also involves BTI but my BTI didn't work for fuck either)

we're now at three weeks.

fuck, what else have i got? i fill the containers up to the top with perlite, for the "defensive layer".

i get my ass online and order some gnatrol.

plus, i gotta remedy the fucked up ph, which means ----> more water into the containers.

well, with that layer of perlite on top, which i never done before, they don't lose a whole lot of water.


i don't know about you, but when you stare at a tiny plant for a week

(2nd set of leaves, 1st already dead, 2nd are like 5mm long)

and you KNOW it's not growing because it's too! fucking! wet!


it's not a good feeling.


but what the fuck can you do about it? switch soil, and put you back in the beginning, with a million gnats?


so you pass 4 weeks... and 4 weeks on other grows has been like.. 2 feet of growth... and you haven't got two inches.


i want to kill some fucker who doesn't know neem degrades with heat. the rest of the blame i have to eat, which i'm well used to, because i go through this year after year, of total fucking agony trying to grow a tiny two inch plant.



the fucking cures for problems, i tell you. people think gnats are cute, they can withstand gnats where they live. they don't live here. they don't know. living like this isn't anything nice. it's evil, to see these little fucks dancing around trying to eat the shit out of anything that grows when there's a whole fucking world out there of healthy stuff they could pick on.

sometimes it's tough to grow. i've had good times as well, but this isn't one of them. i hate looking at something rare and thinknig, there it goes. you folks with money and social stability enjoy your good shit. enjoy your grows with space, and good lighting and air circulation, because the masons don't want me to have anything good.
 

Obi-Wan

New member
Neemresource.com for the best neem oil.

Get some neem seed meal also and mix it with crab she'll meal and top dress with it. It will solve your problem
 

Jericho Mile

Grinder
Veteran
...gnats...and root aphids = no fun

sometimes...in some instances..the aphids come with the medium...right out of the factory.

for once...I feel for you

..stop messing with those masons though. that shit will keep you down...Slab City
 

DrFever

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Veteran
Fuck neam oil that's joke for real sure makes the plant leafs look pretty though hahaha
Wave my brother from another mother sorry to here your problems man that really sucks Big time
this is what i would do if i were you is get tin foil container turn on your BBQ fill container with soil and bake the fucking soil 160 - 180 degrees for 30 mins to kill everything once sterilized i would carefully dunk your seedlings in water and H202 i cap full per liter then i would carefully remove soil till all you got is roots carefully place seedling root system on ass wipe paper fold paper over and mist it then put it in new sterilized soil making a big enough hole mix little mixture of nutrients pour it into hole and carefully place seedling roots with toilet paper into hole , fill hole give light nutrient watering . mist plants and place in dark for 1 to 2 hrs ,,, If you got a dome would work perfect then put under lights again
and watch it bounce back in a few days
you have to take a chance with soil to wet plants are dieing right now so either way your fucked
 
Q

quokka

A layer of sand on the top?

Maybe wash the soil off of the roots, and let them grow in a glass of water for a few weeks, just to allow them to get some volume?

Maybe there are better options but that is what i've done to nurse rare seedlings back to health after they were half eaten by fugnus gnat larvae.

Good luck.
 

DrFever

Active member
Veteran
Even placing a fan near top soil can stop gnats from laying eggs hell you blow on a gnat and it moves out of the way lol so having a fan blowing near soil top will stop them from laying eggs i have used cinamin sprinkling it on top after each watering appeared to work also if i see gnats i tend to remove top 2" of soil and re placing it with soil and a layer of sand
I see people using them yellow sticky cards and believe or not there perfect for small pots
problem is people just tend to place them around in hopes of gathering some
What you need to do is peel a few and join them together and make a cone like you see dogs wearing when they get spayed ????
sticky side down and place it inside your pot around lower stem that is a guarntee kill
 
Q

quokka

Also, spraying pyrethrum on the surface will lower the numbers of the flying ones.
 

Max Headroom

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had a major gnat infestation on my previous grow. used Bacillus thuringiensis, didn't do shit.
luckily the root system was very well developed before there were thousands of these fuckers, so the only real downside was buds covered with dead gnats. didn't really notice them when i vaped the stuff.
for the next grow i used growshop soil instead of home depot stuff and had zero gnats.
 
B

Baron Greenback

This might be worth a try - http://www.diatomretail.co.uk/collections/diatompure-human - it's crushed fossilised seashells, apparently cuts the little buggers up at a nano level (well, really small particles anyway). I have a similar problem and am waiting for delivery, I'll let you know how it goes.
Sticky yellow card is apparently good too, they are attracted to it and get stuck :)
Letting the top of your medium dry a bit too could help.
Good luck.
 

stoned-trout

if it smells like fish
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a combination of everything mentioned...in the desert you can just put your soil in black bags spread thin ..let the sun cook them bastards ..no oven needed...yeehaw..you would be surprised how hot them black bags get in full sun..
 

waveguide

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ty gnatrol pretty much done em.. took cans off, larvae were immobile and white (instead of translucent). ...how to calm an alarmed marijuana farmer down. i really like how valent sell ~$3 packages.

seriously, *proud* of these plants.. really under 2" at 4 weeks, scorched looking, but *still alive* that's not easy!

..apart from bubblicious, this morning her head dried up and fell off like a tumbleweed. they hit that one hard (placement.. traditional breeding grounds near front of cab) but i got roots and 4/5 survivors this time, which means fugu!

fever.. (ceylon) cinnamon .. i use it.. but not on soil. alleged to inhibit root growth. messy (everything's messy) but does have some value as a deterrent.


didn't have much hope for bub, seriously germed march 2, and i think she would fit under (and be shorter than) a dime. amazing. just believe me and we'll forego the pics :)


reason i put this here is because ... i'm not gonna say i'm a genius or anything but i used to specialise in germination and seedling care for a large nursery grower... two decades of experience back... if it helps noobs to feel better about grow`issues, cuz i still get them. move forward.
 

Jhhnn

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ty gnatrol pretty much done em.. took cans off, larvae were immobile and white (instead of translucent). ...how to calm an alarmed marijuana farmer down. i really like how valent sell ~$3 packages.

seriously, *proud* of these plants.. really under 2" at 4 weeks, scorched looking, but *still alive* that's not easy!

..apart from bubblicious, this morning her head dried up and fell off like a tumbleweed. they hit that one hard (placement.. traditional breeding grounds near front of cab) but i got roots and 4/5 survivors this time, which means fugu!

fever.. (ceylon) cinnamon .. i use it.. but not on soil. alleged to inhibit root growth. messy (everything's messy) but does have some value as a deterrent.


didn't have much hope for bub, seriously germed march 2, and i think she would fit under (and be shorter than) a dime. amazing. just believe me and we'll forego the pics :)


reason i put this here is because ... i'm not gonna say i'm a genius or anything but i used to specialise in germination and seedling care for a large nursery grower... two decades of experience back... if it helps noobs to feel better about grow`issues, cuz i still get them. move forward.

Be sure to repeat the gnatrol- once a week for 3 weeks, 4 weeks to be sure. Otherwise, they'll be back.
 

TNTBudSticker

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Perlite...lots of perlite...an half inch on top..good to go.

No chemicals or anything like that.Just get that half inch of perlite on top and you'll never have bug models posing for your plants.
 

yesum

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ICMag Donor
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I have been using yellow sticky traps and go into the tent with a vacuum hose and suck them out. I have noticed the bt dunks and neem oil not really doing the job for the last few grows. I think the gnats are getting resistant to that stuff. I am in cali and with so many growing pot here it stands to reason the bugs will adapt to all the stuff that is dumped on them.
 

robbiedublu

Member
You can screw around with all the shit people have suggested or you can just get some predator gnats from natures control and really take care of the problem. A little more expensive but well worth it!
 

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