Fuck, plants starting seed production, 5th week of flower - harvest now or wait??

[Dicomaco]

So I just discovered that my worst fear have come true, my 3 flowering rooms started to produce seeds.

17 days ago I removed 2 male plants, mistakenly I thought I did it in time, but I was wrong it seems.

A few days ago there wasn't anything particular to see, but I just chopped off a calyx with my fingers and found a tiny green seed.

My question is, since this is week 5, and I believe one of my closets only have around 10 days to go, should I finish it, or should I harvest now? I can't use seeds for anything, but I'm unsure if the plants will produce more potent flowers from now on or just stagnate.

I got another group of vegetating plants that are more than ready to start flowering, so I'm on the fence on whether or not to cut everything down, and extract what ever I can, and then begin a new cycle.

Also, should the bud I have now be smokable or just pure shit? At least I know the trichomes are still useful ...

Appreciate any advice!

 

[Traveller01]

I had same problem,now i'm sorry because i did not chop them,some polen left even my second grow has producing seeds.Potency will be reduced,then you need good cleaning of room.Since damage is already done leave them 10 days when your other closed finish.

 

[gingerale]

i dont get why people say potency is reduced in seeded plants. ive smoke two plants from the same strain, one seeded and the other not, and they both smoked pretty much the same, i couldnt really tell a difference. ive done this a few times now. my advice, DONT harvest early. all you're doing is ruining the crop. harvest at the normal time and give it a little extra time if needed for the seeds to mature. what good is bud full of useless immature seeds? but if the seeds mature, you can keep them and have plenty to grow out future crops.

 

[Dicomaco]

i dont get why people say potency is reduced in seeded plants. ive smoke two plants from the same strain, one seeded and the other not, and they both smoked pretty much the same, i couldnt really tell a difference. ive done this a few times now. my advice, DONT harvest early. all you're doing is ruining the crop. harvest at the normal time and give it a little extra time if needed for the seeds to mature. what good is bud full of useless immature seeds? but if the seeds mature, you can keep them and have plenty to grow out future crops.

Thanks for your input. The thing is though, I can't really use seeds for anything. The seeds will be Sour Cream x MK Ultra/White Widow, Chronic, White Russian, Cole Train. Probably not bad mixes, but I'm not about to become a breeder, right now I just want some kickass weed.

My biggest question now is, if I continue the flower, will the stuff that is already potent as of now, be less potent, or? And will I get more of the already present flowers (in volume) or will the plants only focus on seed production as of now?

 

[Dgenerit]

From my experience with seeds, which isnt much, the longer I let it go, the more seedier and worse it got.

Harvest NOW imo, or have more seeds than bud, I would think anyway.

-Dgen

 

[Dicomaco]

From my experience with seeds, which isnt much, the longer I let it go, the more seedier and worse it got.

Harvest NOW imo, or have more seeds than bud, I would think anyway.

-Dgen

That's my thought exactly, they only started to produce seeds within the last couple of days I believe, the rest of the plant looks very potent and full of crystals.. in my head it makes sense to harvest now, and start a few flowering cycle with my cuttings immediately.

I'd appreciate some more input from experienced growers before I make my decision though..

 

[baccas125]

Finish to maturity and make hash!!

 

[CrumpleZone]

Seeds r a no-no for cash croppers. Nobody wants to buy seedy pot. If ur just growing it for personal use it makes no difference, other than the fact that u have to clean it.

 

[subrob]

well, if you are 35 days or so into bloom, the flowers are not yet smokeable anyway...at least not enough to really get high...might as well finish them out the full 9-10 weeks, send the seeds into the server fund or as freebies...make hash or just roll a buttload of joints w whats left over...it will smoke much better than 5 week old flowers...good luck

 

[durka_durka420]

i agree with sub id rather let it go all the way unless your selling but even then 5 week old pot aint really gonna harvest much
and if you remove males and wash the fems then only insides of buds should have seeds as the other calyx's shouldnt have male pollen on them and wouldnt produce seeds.....

 

[Dicomaco]

well, if you are 35 days or so into bloom, the flowers are not yet smokeable anyway...at least not enough to really get high...might as well finish them out the full 9-10 weeks, send the seeds into the server fund or as freebies...make hash or just roll a buttload of joints w whats left over...it will smoke much better than 5 week old flowers...good luck

The weird thing is though, my smallest room which have MK Ultra & White Widow, looks like they're nearly finished (on paper they shouldn't be). During last grow my white widow was finished at 6½ (yes i'm serious) and I'm not sure if it's because she was the best out of 10 seeds, or the fact that the mother genes are 1½ years old, but nonetheless, the bud is more than smokable as of now.
The other rooms however.. are far from done.

When you say HASH, do you mean using the bubble bag method? I'm curious as to how I can get as much out of my crop as possible, if we assume that I decide to continue flower through for 1 or 2 of the rooms...

I will of course give the seeds away if I decide to finish, this site has helped me so much so that's the least I can do
Father (Sour Cream) is Sour Diesel x G13 Haze so it could be some interesting crosses.

Last question, if I decide to harvest 1 room now, and finish the rest, while starting a new flower cycle with my cuttings (5 week old), could the seed producing plants hit my new team with pollen still?

 

[Dicomaco]

i agree with sub id rather let it go all the way unless your selling but even then 5 week old pot aint really gonna harvest much
and if you remove males and wash the fems then only insides of buds should have seeds as the other calyx's shouldnt have male pollen on them and wouldnt produce seeds.....

I'm not sure I understand you completely here.

What do you mean "if you remove males and wash the fems" ?

There are only females in my rooms, all unfortunately producing seeds now. Are you saying that probably not all of the plants will produce seeds from top to bottom?

 

[SOTF420]

By wash he means spray females down with water to inactivate and kill any pollen that is present in the environment or on the plants. I would spray everything down with water anywhere pollen may be present and definitely let them mature all the way and harvest the seeds they are a gift! Alot of people say pollinated bud is much more potent because the plant produces the psychoactive resin to protect it's seeds from the elements & insects and predators basically. So a plant that is completing it's intended life cycle has alot more reason to make THC, even if the buds are smaller overall. They weigh alot more too because seeds are heavy and alot of people don't mind some seeds if it's really good herb since alot of people want to grow their own nowadays. Not everyone has seeds or knows where to buy them so they score double if you have killer herb with beans in it. I would charge extra! ha

 

[Phillthy]

i could never tell a difference between a bud and the same bud with seeds. smokes just the same.

 

[SOTF420]

Thats probably because you are smoking bud so strong it doesn't matter lol

 

[Phillthy]

probably

 

[SOTF420]

Maybe stronger is the wrong term, "different" more psychoactive I think when seeded, a fuller spectrum to the high. But then again I pay way too much attention to this shit I am always in my own head analyzing everything way too much lol

 

[Dicomaco]

By wash he means spray females down with water to inactivate and kill any pollen that is present in the environment or on the plants. I would spray everything down with water anywhere pollen may be present and definitely let them mature all the way and harvest the seeds they are a gift! Alot of people say pollinated bud is much more potent because the plant produces the psychoactive resin to protect it's seeds from the elements & insects and predators basically. So a plant that is completing it's intended life cycle has alot more reason to make THC, even if the buds are smaller overall. They weigh alot more too because seeds are heavy and alot of people don't mind some seeds if it's really good herb since alot of people want to grow their own nowadays. Not everyone has seeds or knows where to buy them so they score double if you have killer herb with beans in it. I would charge extra! ha

Thanks for clearing that up SOTF420.

So I can actually reduce the seed production significantly by overspraying them with water.. does that mean that the plant will focus on producing more bud/resin/trichomes, or what?

I guess if I finish them, I could make some serious quality hash with bubble bags?

Also could you answer my question about, if I chop down 1 room now, and start a new flowering cycle with my cuttings, could male pollen still be spread from the other rooms?
I don't know why I got the idea that male pollen dies after 3 days, I'm sure I read it :S

 

[SOTF420]

Spraying water now will inactivate any pollen that is still present on the plants, it can live for more than 3 days it all depends on your temps. high humidity and high temps kill pollen.

Hash is a great idea but seeds are pretty easy to remove and you can still have some outrageously potent buds to smoke IF YOU LET THEM MATURE FULLY they will just be smaller overall.

Spray everything down with water and you should be okay for next crop except maybe a random seed here and there but not anything like the pollinated crop. This is a good thing for you, learning experience and you will have more seeds which in the hand is worth much more than 2 of a bush!

 

[Dicomaco]

i could never tell a difference between a bud and the same bud with seeds. smokes just the same.

Say you have:

-a 3 gallon / 11 liter pot,
-1.2 x 1.2 x 2.4 meters room
-600w HPS + cool tube
-Advanced Nutrition
-5 plants (White Russian) around 180 cm (incl. pot) and it has just started to produce seeds at around week 5.

How much volume am I about to lose because of the seed production, compared to IF we assume I was going to bubble bag all of it anyway. I mean is there some kind of circa percentage, or is that completely unpredictable?

I'm asking cause I'm on the fence now, whether or not it will cost me big in the end if I complete this flower, versus chopping everything down now and begin new cycles. My cuttings are more than ready to kick ass.